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post #211 of 2184
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Originally Posted by Kage View Post

I bought the 360 HD-DVD Player a few days ago at Circuit City and I returned it today, because it made King Kong HD-DVD and some of my sd-dvds freeze every 5 minutes. The customer service person said that they had 6 units returned to them from the 10 units that they had in stock.

Sorry, I call "troll" on this one. That's just ridiculous.
post #212 of 2184
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Originally Posted by Hank527 View Post

Hello,

I have not been posting to frequently, but got this last night. I can say it is very easy to set up but maybe I am missing something because I think it is strange to have to plug into one of the front USB units on the Xbox 360 and the HD DVD then has 2 USB ports on the rear of its unit.

Anyway I hooked it up put it up via component to my sony SXRD. The power up is instant 1-2 seconds. I put in the disc and its probably under 10 - 20 seconds max unitl I see the universal logo all good.

Now the bad news maybe is it King Kong or the Xbox 360 or the SXRD. Watching King Kong looked very impressive HD unfortunately reveals many scenes that look fake or overly CGI ie the backgrounds on the dinosaur fight look CGI and almost have a different brightness to them (this might be the sxrd?) Anyway the only - on the HD DVD drive was that about once in every ten minutes or so a saw a brief hiccup where it seemed the disc might have stuttered so very slightly. Or is this the TV trying to keep up?

Need fellow users opinions. All in all for $200 and my 2nd HD-DVD I am very pleased . The downside seems to be all in that this will not do Dolby True HD. The upside is for the movie studious because this 2nd Hd-DVD drive is in the room where the kids watch TV so all Family Hd-DVDs will now be purchased for the kiddies. (cough cough Disney get on the ball)


Oh and the features/ menu functions are a tad different than the toshiba


You aren't supposed to plug it in the front, of course you can, not sure why you would want to though. There is a USB in the back next to the Video port. Plug it in there, and you can use the back ports on the HD-DVD Drive to plug in other things you may have for your XBOX360, as it will act as a USB hub.

TimT
post #213 of 2184
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Originally Posted by Hank527 View Post

Hello,

I have not been posting to frequently, but got this last night. I can say it is very easy to set up but maybe I am missing something because I think it is strange to have to plug into one of the front USB units on the Xbox 360 and the HD DVD then has 2 USB ports on the rear of its unit.

Anyway I hooked it up put it up via component to my sony SXRD. The power up is instant 1-2 seconds. I put in the disc and its probably under 10 - 20 seconds max unitl I see the universal logo all good.

Now the bad news maybe is it King Kong or the Xbox 360 or the SXRD. Watching King Kong looked very impressive HD unfortunately reveals many scenes that look fake or overly CGI ie the backgrounds on the dinosaur fight look CGI and almost have a different brightness to them (this might be the sxrd?) Anyway the only - on the HD DVD drive was that about once in every ten minutes or so a saw a brief hiccup where it seemed the disc might have stuttered so very slightly. Or is this the TV trying to keep up?

Need fellow users opinions. All in all for $200 and my 2nd HD-DVD I am very pleased . The downside seems to be all in that this will not do Dolby True HD. The upside is for the movie studious because this 2nd Hd-DVD drive is in the room where the kids watch TV so all Family Hd-DVDs will now be purchased for the kiddies. (cough cough Disney get on the ball)


Oh and the features/ menu functions are a tad different than the toshiba

Others have posted this, you can find information online on how to clear the XBOX 360 hard drive cache. This should clear up your problems with stuttering in the playback.

There is a post in the original HD-DVD add on thread on this forum.

TimT
post #214 of 2184
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Originally Posted by Kage View Post

I bought the 360 HD-DVD Player a few days ago at Circuit City and I returned it today, because it made King Kong HD-DVD and some of my sd-dvds freeze every 5 minutes. The customer service person said that they had 6 units returned to them from the 10 units that they had in stock.

Did you turn off the Xbox 360 after using the installation disc? That cures stuttering problems, and most likely freezing problems.
post #215 of 2184
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Originally Posted by swanlee View Post

"You say HDMI is "nice", but how about people who want to upconvert standard dvds."


VGA upconverts everything to 1080P, there are more pc monitors and TV's that do 1080P over VGA than 1080P over HDMI.


Thank you for putting words in my mouth. When did I say 1080p? Can't find that quote can you. I said upconvert.

My tv, xbr1, has a very crappy implementation of VGA. The max res is only 1280x1024 with no widescreen support. So I don't care about VGA.
post #216 of 2184
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Originally Posted by mboojigga View Post

Sorry I have to contest this one. I have the 60" XBR1 and my movies look great on them. Maybe it is the type of movies you are playing. I am currently deployed in Iraq but check my post history as I posted up pictures from Prison Break Season 1 on DVD. I am satisfied with component and I am not losing sleep about HDMI. If it comes it comes but the quality of picture delivers with component on my SXRD.

Again if anyone wants to again see picture quality of standard DVD with a 1080P display then check the post history and see it yourself. We have slow connection over here so it takes time to get from page to page.


Sweet jeebus, people just like to imagine things in posts. I never said the PQ was bad with my current dvd player. I said that the set doesn't handle 480i/p as well as it does 1080i, this in independent of the input type. I would prefer to do the scaling else where. I would also to rid myself of component inputs merely for the input switching on my remote.

If you want to settle for not having an option, fine. But it is beyond me why some people are so vocal about this in the negative. If you don't want it, don't buy it. Don't rain on the request of those who do though. I just want the option.

Just like I want the more imporant option of different video output resolutions for games and dvd/hd-dvds... which amirm seems to ignore when people mention it.
post #217 of 2184
But what about the sound quality? Comparing the 360's DVD playback to that of my Denon 2910 shows a large difference in favour of the 2910 - especially using the 6 ch analog output. I've read reviews stating the HD-DVD add-on for the 360 improves sound quality over the regular drive and that the downconverted True HD track is a marked improvement. I am not convinced - the 360 IMO uses compression on the audio output and I hope the HD-DVD add-on sounds as good or better than my Denon DVD player. After all it is supposed to be next gen - should it not look AND sound better?
post #218 of 2184
Mission Impossible: III - Scene selection:



Selecting a video commentary:



Viewing picture-in-picture video commentary:




King Kong - Normal screen:



Interactivity:



Scene selection (while movie is playing):



Bookmarks:




Corpse Bride - Special Features menu (while movie is playing):




My setup:

post #219 of 2184
To those who have a 360 HD Dvd add on would you be so kind to post pics of it at 720/1080p and upconverted hd pics just too see if there's really a big difference. I want to get it but I want to see if it makes a huge difference since im already upconverting all my dvd with my 360 via VGA.
post #220 of 2184
Really depends on your display. I think the larger the display the more evident the improvement. On my display I used to use CG animated movies as demos (Nemo, Cars, etc.) because they were so sharp. King Kong on HD-DVD blows me away. Live action thats the sharpest pic I've ever seen better than SD CG animation.

I should note I did not use the 360's upconversion or 1080p out. I'm comparing 480i deinterlaced and scaled to 1080p to a 1080i HDDVD out signal deinterlaced from a DVDO VP50. The VP50 has a great SD deinterlacer and still it can't compare to a HD-DVD picture. I'll see if I can't re-rent Charlie and the Chocolate Factory on SD and take some pics next week.
post #221 of 2184
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Originally Posted by RangerDoc View Post

Yesterday morning I picked up the add-on from the local CC. The clerk told me they had received ten of them and I was buying the last one. And that one had already been returned.

I got home, installed the upgrade disc, connected the drive, the drive was recognized and all seemed fine.

Then I inserted KK. It just sat there with "Reading" on the screen. It wouldn't do anything. I then tried an SD disc and the screen went black in 10-15 seconds. But it wouldn't do anything after that.

I tried rebooting the system. I then tried reformatting the drive on the 360 to really reset everything. I then re-updated the software and hooked everything back up. Still nothing.

I can't beleive 2 out of 10 of these drives are bad. 20% failures is way to high for a consumer good. I finally returned the thing to CC and I'll now look for other options.

This sucks.

So just b/c you might have bought a defective one you giving up? That's quite a way to approach it. I can understand if you gone through 3 bad ones, but just 1? Sucks to be your loved ones come B-Day & Christmas buying you a gift.
post #222 of 2184
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Originally Posted by NOFX View Post

To those who have a 360 HD Dvd add on would you be so kind to post pics of it at 720/1080p and upconverted hd pics just too see if there's really a big difference. I want to get it but I want to see if it makes a huge difference since im already upconverting all my dvd with my 360 via VGA.


I can tell you that the difference is not as great as it was from VHS to dvd. I just bought the 360 add on and watched King Kong last night. Smoother yet sharper then the SD version. Colors were alot better. I have a upconverting player with DCDI so I can say that I am getting the most of my SD movies. I figured for 160 dollars for the add on plus a free movie it was worth the improvement. I just cannot justify 400-500 dollars for a high def player. I will say that HD movies on satellite are crap and look worse then my upconverted movies. HD DVD is so clean!
post #223 of 2184
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Originally Posted by zero the hero View Post

If you lose or misplace the remote and the game controller you have more serious issues than being unable to control the unit.

HaHa, this is why a said minor inconvience as we all misplace remotes and controllers from time to time, Well I do I should say.
post #224 of 2184
"I said upconvert"

Yea and VGA on the 360 will up-convert Standard DVD's to 1080P or whatever resolution you choose to use through VGA
post #225 of 2184
I just watched kk on my samsung hln. it doesnt do 1080 thru vga and does 1080i thru component. i tried both. i have been using the vga for gaming at 1280*720 and the pic is great for gaming. now for the dvd. the hddvd is fantastic thru vga at 1280*720p/ in reality i wouldnt uograde to 1080p till this dies, the picture is that good. the colors are fantastic and the sharpness is amazing. i slao tried on component at 1080i not much diff. colors a littler brighter, yea maybe but on vga its more natural and quite a bit more sharp/ for the money it is great. as for sound, nothing against the audiofanatics but thru my onkyo the dd is great. hd is more for video and my onkyo can make it so you look for the dinosours running.The drive worked flawless. easist dvd player i have ever owned.smooth as silk.
post #226 of 2184
Go Spurs? As in Tottenham?
post #227 of 2184
Me too. My Sammy HLN looked AMAZING with the add on. Set mine for 720p using component input. The detail on the images is pixel perfect. Too sharp perhaps, as special effects become easily discernable.
post #228 of 2184
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Originally Posted by swanlee View Post

"I said upconvert"

Yea and VGA on the 360 will up-convert Standard DVD's to 1080P or whatever resolution you choose to use through VGA


Thanks for telling me something I already know. How about you go ask sony to upgrade my xbr1's vga port to something usable for me then.
post #229 of 2184
To me the clarity is the biggest difference, it's like a veil of Haze has been raised from the DVD's Image. I have the Xbox set to 1080i on my Sammy LCD which is 1360x768, that seems to yield the best image.
post #230 of 2184
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Originally Posted by emmonsh View Post

...hd is more for video and my onkyo can make it so you look for the dinosours running.

Nice quote, thats like saying a TV is more for video. Audio is equally important for HD. Those who dont agree are just uninformed.
post #231 of 2184
Does this player remember where you left off if you power off??
post #232 of 2184
Bought the 360 and the add-on last night.

King Kong looked way better than anything on hd cable (many of the scenes were 3D-ish).

Player worked great, love the menu, and load times were fast.

However, King Kong is a boring movie, as are many of the released movies (Phantom, Last Samurai, Vendetta, etc). So, I found myself skipping to certain scenes. I looked at the release schedule for HD-DVDs (and BluRay) and I wasn't excited. It's like 5 or so movies a month and I just can't get excited about a boring movie like Superman Returns or World Trade Center or whatever.

So, although the PQ was fantastic, the content is just not really there. So I just don't feel like I'm getting bang for the buck (one mediocre (plotwise) movie a week just doesn't do it for me).

As for the 360, I rented a couple of highly rated games, they looked good on my 50 inch 1080i display, but I got bored quickly and think the graphics are just overhyped. I like the graphics, quality, depth, and immersion of PC games much more.

So, for $600, I'm going to put my money towards something that will have more utility. Even my gf, who works in the tv industry, got bored after a few minutes of Kong and decided to vacuum the living room instead.

The experience reminded me of when I got into DVD-A/SACD a few years ago. Great quality but little content or demand.
post #233 of 2184
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Originally Posted by union1411 View Post

Bought the 360 and the add-on last night.

King Kong looked way better than anything on hd cable (many of the scenes were 3D-ish).

Player worked great, love the menu, and load times were fast.

However, King Kong is a boring movie, as are many of the released movies (Phantom, Last Samurai, Vendetta, etc). So, I found myself skipping to certain scenes. I looked at the release schedule for HD-DVDs (and BluRay) and I wasn't excited. It's like 5 or so movies a month and I just can't get excited about a boring movie like Superman Returns or World Trade Center or whatever.

So, although the PQ was fantastic, the content is just not really there. So I just don't feel like I'm getting bang for the buck (one mediocre (plotwise) movie a week just doesn't do it for me).

As for the 360, I rented a couple of highly rated games, they looked good on my 50 inch 1080i display, but I got bored quickly and think the graphics are just overhyped. I like the graphics, quality, depth, and immersion of PC games much more.

So, for $600, I'm going to put my money towards something that will have more utility. Even my gf, who works in the tv industry, got bored after a few minutes of Kong and decided to vacuum the living room instead.

The experience reminded me of when I got into DVD-A/SACD a few years ago. Great quality but little content or demand.


HD/blu ray/ps3/xbox isn't really for utility. Its for entertainment. Its for people with disposable incomes. Kinda like you don't buy a roadster and saying I don't like it because it only seats 2 and has usuable trunk.
post #234 of 2184
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Originally Posted by hughesne View Post

Nice quote, thats like saying a TV is more for video. Audio is equally important for HD. Those who dont agree are just uninformed.

sorry bu7ddy, but your dead wrong. i have lots of friends with hd, probablyalot longer than most on these forums and the audio is merely a second step. sure great audio is a plus, but for hd, video is everything. its like hd radio, come on its a joke.
post #235 of 2184
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Originally Posted by emmonsh View Post

great audio is a plus, but for hd, video is everything. its like hd radio, come on its a joke.

.

You are so wrong.
post #236 of 2184
I agree. Audio is a second step. I was an early adopter with dvd, then had to upgrade from my 27" crt to a 40" widescreen RP HDTV (Tosh 40H80), then upgraded to a 5.1 surround receiver (Sony STR DB930) but I kept the speakers that I was using with my pro logic reciever. Just couldn't justify spending $1000+ on a new set of matched speakers (though I did add a subwoofer) To my ears the system sounds great, and now looks fantastic at 1080i with the hd-dvd add-on. I am fairly certain I would not be able to hear any difference between dd5.1 and truHD on my system; and I don't care. Someday perhaps when I don't have any neighbors and have unlimited funds and can build my dream home theater I may care but not at this time.
post #237 of 2184
This is my first post, but I am no newbie. I have to agree that great audio is not a necessary component of HD. I have only my speakers in my television to hear movies through and I still love good HD. Great audio can add to the experience and then become an essential part of it. But video is forst and foremost when it comes to HD. Logcally, audio is just the second step, and great audio is not an necesarry one.
post #238 of 2184
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Originally Posted by seanb61 View Post

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You are so wrong.

Well I've never heard HD-Radio, but what I do know is that audio does make a fairly big difference. It's different for everyone, but my guess is it's probably a near-50/50 split for audio and video. You can't have crap audio and amazing video or vice versa. A good middleground is better than top-of-the-line on one end and 20+-year-old tech on the other.

That'd be like having a quad-SLI computer with a Pentium 2 (I don't even think that's possible, but you get my point).
post #239 of 2184
Can someone please tell me what is used as the audio outputs? Optical, coax, RCA's? Thanks in advance
post #240 of 2184
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Originally Posted by union1411 View Post

Bought the 360 and the add-on last night.

King Kong looked way better than anything on hd cable (many of the scenes were 3D-ish).

Player worked great, love the menu, and load times were fast.

However, King Kong is a boring movie, as are many of the released movies (Phantom, Last Samurai, Vendetta, etc). So, I found myself skipping to certain scenes. I looked at the release schedule for HD-DVDs (and BluRay) and I wasn't excited. It's like 5 or so movies a month and I just can't get excited about a boring movie like Superman Returns or World Trade Center or whatever.

So, although the PQ was fantastic, the content is just not really there. So I just don't feel like I'm getting bang for the buck (one mediocre (plotwise) movie a week just doesn't do it for me).

As for the 360, I rented a couple of highly rated games, they looked good on my 50 inch 1080i display, but I got bored quickly and think the graphics are just overhyped. I like the graphics, quality, depth, and immersion of PC games much more.

So, for $600, I'm going to put my money towards something that will have more utility. Even my gf, who works in the tv industry, got bored after a few minutes of Kong and decided to vacuum the living room instead.

The experience reminded me of when I got into DVD-A/SACD a few years ago. Great quality but little content or demand.

I don't have a clue where you came up with the "I looked at the release schedule for HD-DVDs (and BluRay) and I wasn't excited. It's like 5 or so movies a month", it's more like five movies a week. There are some 102 titles already released for HD DVD and here is the announced titles for the rest of the year.
http://hddvd.highdefdigest.com/releasedates.html
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