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post #1 of 16
11/11/06 at 2:19am
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As the subject says. I blew my Polk Audios. Running a 100w RMSX5 receiver... so would like some speakers capable of handling that power. However, as you can see, don't have much money.

Looking to buy OTS speakers (Best Buy, Circuit City, Tweeter) Any recomendations? All the review sites I have found will have one speaker, and not another... so it's hard to determine what the rating curve is. Thanks for any help!


OH... PS, I am running my old DJ sub (2000w RMS JBL 18") ...so bass is not "high" priority
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post #2 of 16
11/11/06 at 7:02am
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Originally Posted by MomentaryLapse View Post

As the subject says. I blew my Polk Audios. Running a 100w RMSX5 receiver... so would like some speakers capable of handling that power. However, as you can see, don't have much money.

Looking to buy OTS speakers (Best Buy, Circuit City, Tweeter) Any recomendations? All the review sites I have found will have one speaker, and not another... so it's hard to determine what the rating curve is. Thanks for any help!


OH... PS, I am running my old DJ sub (2000w RMS JBL 18") ...so bass is not "high" priority

Um, are you sure you didn't blow them because you were CLIPPING your receiver...not actually supplying 100 watts?

Very few receivers are actually capable of supplying 100 watts to all channels at low THD and your ears would be frying at that point. It is much more likely to kill speakers by clipping a receiver than by one with too much power.

The Polk's are notoriously power hungry. the RTi8's I believe measure out to a 4 ohm DC impedance. What receiver do you own and what speakers did you have hooked up.
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post #3 of 16
11/11/06 at 7:25am
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Well, here's a question. Just came across a set of Klipsch RP-3s for $375. Obviously used. But what would you think of those speakers for that price?

The reciever is a Kenwood VR307
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post #4 of 16
11/11/06 at 7:31am
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Well, here's a question. Just came across a set of Klipsch RP-3s for $375. Obviously used. But what would you think of those speakers for that price?

The reciever is a Kenwood VR307

Klipsch is notoriously bright. You would have to demo them to decide if they are good or not. They would likely sound very different from your polks. In that budget why not look at a nicer bookshelf speaker instead of a cheap tower speaker? Your BB stores won't sell it but the Polk RTi line has a lot of value in it IMO. Their monitor line is also nice but they don't use as nice of drivers and the cabinets don't have as nice of construction. You will however, find the monitor line in your local stores.

And just an FYI, you were most likely clipping your receiver(aka the receiver didn't have enough power) versus the speakers not being able to handle the power you were sending it). Your receiver likely puts out 30watts or less per channel all channels driven. That would account for the clipping that killed your old speakers.
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post #5 of 16
11/11/06 at 7:59am
Athena F2.2 for around $400 on sale. Little to large, try the AS-F1.2 on sale at Audio advisor for $250! These got great reviews!!
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post #6 of 16
11/11/06 at 8:07am
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Klipsch is notoriously bright. You would have to demo them to decide if they are good or not. They would likely sound very different from your polks. In that budget why not look at a nicer bookshelf speaker instead of a cheap tower speaker? Your BB stores won't sell it but the Polk RTi line has a lot of value in it IMO. Their monitor line is also nice but they don't use as nice of drivers and the cabinets don't have as nice of construction. You will however, find the monitor line in your local stores.

And just an FYI, you were most likely clipping your receiver(aka the receiver didn't have enough power) versus the speakers not being able to handle the power you were sending it). Your receiver likely puts out 30watts or less per channel all channels driven. That would account for the clipping that killed your old speakers.

Absolutely agree about the receiver blowing the speakers from being pushed too hard and clipping and not because it fed the speakers too much power. Very few receivers if any actually have so much power they could blow any half decent set of speakers by OVERpowering them. A pro power amp, sure, but not a receiver.

Actually I was thinking Klipsch for him because if he's pushing his system to the point of clipping the receiver and blowing speakers, the efficiency of the Klipsch might help him out and allow him to get the volume he wants without driving the receiver too hard. But as Sdiver2489 says you'd want to listen to them first to see if they're your thing. Otherwise just check the stores out you mentioned and listen to what they have in your price range.
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post #7 of 16
11/11/06 at 11:36am
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Thanks so much guys. I will head over to Tweeter and check out some speakers before buying these. I was under the impression Klipsch were "higher" end speakers.

I primarily will be using these for home theater with the occasional rocking out session I also have a lot of TV for the wall already, so something with a small footprint seemed great for me..
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post #8 of 16
11/11/06 at 11:48am
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Originally Posted by Sdiver2489 View Post

Your BB stores won't sell it but the Polk RTi line has a lot of value in it IMO.

My Tweeter Center does carry the RTi line, which models would you suggest?

http://www.tweeter.com/family/index....339&sublevel=2

(Just sort by brand and pick Polk)
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post #9 of 16
11/11/06 at 11:51am
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My Tweeter Center does carry the RTi line, which models would you suggest?

http://www.tweeter.com/family/index....339&sublevel=2

(Just sort by brand and pick Polk)

Well I would look at the RTi6, however, I would use caution on your case because your amp already took out two speakers most likely due to clipping. You might want to look into investing in something better.
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post #10 of 16
11/11/06 at 12:03pm
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Actually I was thinking Klipsch for him because if he's pushing his system to the point of clipping the receiver and blowing speakers, the efficiency of the Klipsch might help him out and allow him to get the volume he wants without driving the receiver too hard. But as Sdiver2489 says you'd want to listen to them first to see if they're your thing. Otherwise just check the stores out you mentioned and listen to what they have in your price range.

I agree! If you is over-driving speakers, then surely new Polk speaker are not that good of an idea. However, the RP-3 is one of those powered towers:

http://www.klipsch.com/products/disc...ails/rp-3.aspx

I generally don't like these things, and you already have a sub. Try to audition them first if you go that route. I doubt it will sound like Klipsch you will find in a store.
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post #11 of 16
11/11/06 at 5:34pm
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Ended up getting the Klipsch... They honestly sound great in comparison to what I had.

On another note, the speakers weren't damaged due to clipping. They had suffered over-excursion. I don't pretend to know the newest hottest speakers, but I know that the only thing clipping will ever do is overheat the coils due to a square wav (or near direct DC current)...
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post #12 of 16
11/11/06 at 6:53pm
You can overheat the voicecoil to the point of burning it out or making it break. Combine an overheated voicecoil and a large excursion, and you get big trouble. If by "blown" you mean that the surround or cone tore, then that's different. Bottom line is that driving a speaker beyond either it's capability or the capability of your amp is a Very Bad Thing.
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post #13 of 16
11/11/06 at 6:59pm
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Originally Posted by MomentaryLapse View Post

Ended up getting the Klipsch... They honestly sound great in comparison to what I had.

That's what matters most. I'm a happy Klipsch owner as well.

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On another note, the speakers weren't damaged due to clipping. They had suffered over-excursion. I don't pretend to know the newest hottest speakers, but I know that the only thing clipping will ever do is overheat the coils due to a square wav (or near direct DC current)...

Clipping can also blow your tweeter. If you decompose that square wave in a series of sine waves of different frequencies, the square wave contains a lot of high harmonics that add up to make that squareness. The crossover extracts them out and sends them to your tweeter.
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post #14 of 16
11/11/06 at 7:33pm
My two cents
Just because your amp doesnt go into protect does not necessarily mean you cannot still blow your speakers. Distorted power is the deadliest, and recievers (most) are notorious for overstating their capabilities, and get pushed much too hard for what they can produce, hence the distortion(detectable or not), which inevitably leads to "blown speakers"
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post #15 of 16
2/7/07 at 7:04pm
Bumping an old thread or some advice.

I would like to find the best speakers (pair for Fronts) that $500 or less can buy. I plan on using an Onkyo 504 to drive them.

My listening habits include about 30% TV, 40% DVD(including TV on DVD which is important to me, as I watch a lot of it. It is usually in 2.1) 25% gaming and 5% music.

Thanks in advance.
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post #16 of 16
2/7/07 at 7:12pm
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Bumping an old thread or some advice.

I would like to find the best speakers (pair for Fronts) that $500 or less can buy. I plan on using an Onkyo 504 to drive them.

My listening habits include about 30% TV, 40% DVD(including TV on DVD which is important to me, as I watch a lot of it. It is usually in 2.1) 25% gaming and 5% music.

Thanks in advance.

You should start your own thread.

What size room are these speakers going into?

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