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post #1 of 134
Thread Starter 
The main thread is starting to get too big to easily find certain things. I try to make links on the first post to any major events or findings, but not everyone checks the first post that often so sometimes things get over looked.

There have been a lot of requests for a separate thread showing actual screens and setups. This is an excellent idea and a way for people to show their pride and what they have done.

I would like to keep this thread to just showcases and the people posting screen showcases can field questions from others as to what went into their setup, how well they like the screen, what projector they use-- things of that nature. I ask though that if there are specific questions about the laminates itself, testing, or overall comments or questions that relate to the development of them as a screen and not directly to those showing their Home Theater setups be asked in the main laminate thread. It's too hard to keep two threads in sync with the technical items and answering questions, and something could get over looked. There is no other reason than that for making this request.

I also ask that we keep this showcase just to laminates. It doesn't matter if it's Wilsonart, Pionite, Formica... I have no vested interest in one particular brand, but seeing that there are a multitude of threads devoted to screen shots and HT setups for other methods, anyone with setups other than laminates have plenty of threads to post their shots in.

Here is one to start, and there are many nice examples--this is just one. It also shows that laminates are not just for budget screens and people that can't afford a commercial screen-- most that are going with the laminates chose them for their durability as well as their performance and they could very well have went with a commercial screen. Other's may have initially decided to go this route as a temporary solution after spending a lot of money on a projector, and then discovered this is a very nice and simple solution.

So anyone that answered up to the role call, feel free to post your images here. Anyone that didn't answer up but wants to show their creation and give their impressions, feel free to post and tell us all what you think.

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Originally Posted by puck16 View Post

Was finally able to have the wife take some pictures of our theater. We finished the project about a month ago and went with the DW screen after reading this thread. As I mentioned in my previous posts, I mounted the laminate to a frame I built and hung it on the wall, overlapping the cut edge of the velvet on the wall.

Looking into theater from wine room.


Entering theater.




Love our Coater Studios from Serge at HTAuthority! (looking back from screen)


DW laminate 110" screen mounted on frame and hung on wall (overlapping black velvet)


Theater with some of our mood lighting on.

(puck is taking some more pictures and when he has those ready he said he will post them here, at that time I will remove this from the first post. I just wanted a nice example to start off with and puck certainly has a nice setup.)
post #2 of 134
It's great to see the laminate screen get some recognition. I learned the idea to use laminate on this forum and I'm excited to have Bill show my theater to it's members. I took a couple of screen shots while watching football yesterday. It's the HD Sunday Ticket broadcast. The PJ is a Sharp XR-10X and the screen is Wilsonart DW mounted on a frame made of 1x4 Poplar.


(this shot has the headrest of one of the theater seats in the way)
post #3 of 134
wbassett, thanks for getting this thread going. I've been looking forward to it.

puck16 those pics looks great, was your room totally dark when you took those or did you have some of the lights on? If you did, which ones, sconces, recessed, lounge room?

Your screen is recessed a fair amount and in the last pic that wbassett pasted over you only have the sconces and rope lighting on and it seems that the screen area is notably darker and would allow for some good mood lighting if need be.

Let's see some more pics from other Laminate users out there setup and screenshots.
post #4 of 134
My room was dark for the two shots I took. However, most of the time we use the theater we have the sconces and rope lights on a low setting. I attribute this to two reasons- 1. the Sharp XR-10X's ability to perform with ambient light and 2. the recessed nature of our screen setup. PQ is still great even with moderate ambient light, however it's best when the room is completely dark.

~puck
post #5 of 134
My XBox360 HD-DVD player arrived yesterday, so I took a few pictures with my Wilsonart DW laminate screen.

Screen size: 108" x 61" (9 feet wide 16:9)
Projector: Sony G90 CRT at 1080P

All lights on in my HT... 3 rows of recessed lights, plus 4 sconces:


All lights on except for the 2 recessed lights in front of the screen:
post #6 of 134
Thread Starter 
Two whoohoos... nice theater setup Clarence, I think this is the first time I saw more than just the screen.

Second whoohoo... you got the HD DVD add on, very nice toy (and toy was said as a good thing!)
post #7 of 134
I made a calibration HD-DVD and perfected the aspect ratio tonight...

MI:2 at over 9' wide



post #8 of 134
wbassett,

I curious about your set up: do you have good site lines from the 2nd row of seating? I have 2 rows of seating and I'm a little concerned about making my screen so big the 2nd row would not be able to see the bottom of the the screen. Yet your screen goes very low and it doesn't look like you have that much more clearence then I do from the 1st/2nd rows.
Just curious how it works for you.
post #9 of 134
clarence, those are some incredible screen shots. What color laminate are you using?

edit: Ok I'm dumb...I was so impressed with the pic's I didn't notice you said DW.
post #10 of 134
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Originally Posted by Sdallnct View Post

clarence, those are some incredible screen shots. What color laminate are you using?

The magic is his PJ, not the laminate.
post #11 of 134
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Originally Posted by Person99 View Post

The magic is his PJ, not the laminate.

I agree with Dave. There's a lot of truth to that. I think this G90 would look good shining on a brown lunch bag.

Here are some images from my previous Kilz2 "screen"... painted drywall that I never intended to use as a screen, I just primed my wall during construction and it took me another year to get around to building a better screen.

This is Kilz2:







There's very little about screen quality that you can really discern from a non-comparative screenshot. Hotspotting shows up well... does the light fade excessively at the edges with a bright glare in the middle? Despite some attempts to convince us otherwise, you can't really tell much about contrast, black levels, or ambient light handling.

But the screenshots on the first page of the main laminate thread show the improvement of Kilz2 vs Wilsonart DW laminate:

post #12 of 134
While I agree that the PJ makes "the" difference, you can obviously slightly change the image depending on the screen. And my amature guess would be, the better the PJ the easier it is to see the differences in screens.

I have an HD70 on order (I know, not in the same league as a CRT), but based on reading, etc, I think I'm going to build a new screen out of Fasion Grey. Luckily I'm in Dallas and just got off the phone with the local distributor and they do stock it, so I can go in any time to pick up.
post #13 of 134
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Originally Posted by Person99 View Post

The magic is his PJ, not the laminate.

That is just mean. Stop looking down on the digital world.

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Originally Posted by Sdallnct View Post

I have an HD70 on order (I know, not in the same league as a CRT), but based on reading, etc, I think I'm going to build a new screen out of Fasion Grey. Luckily I'm in Dallas and just got off the phone with the local distributor and they do stock it, so I can go in any time to pick up.

You could have a Barco 808 for $750. It is located right there in Dallas. I have heard that there is a Barco owner or two in Dallas that could help with the set up.

If you get the Fashion Grey, then maybe you could take it to Person's place and compare it with his screen. It should provide for an interesting comparison.
post #14 of 134
Oh no, no CRT for me. While I would love to "play with one" the only reason I got the ok for build a theater room to begin with was that once all set up, it would be very easy for the family to use. I travel a lot for work and just want it to work for the family. It's just got to work and be low or no maintenance.
post #15 of 134
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Originally Posted by Clarence View Post

I agree with Dave. There's a lot of truth to that. I think this G90 would look good shining on a brown lunch bag.

Here are some images from my previous Kilz2 "screen"... painted drywall that I never intended to use as a screen, I just primed my wall during construction and it took me another year to get around to building a better screen.

This is Kilz2:







There's very little about screen quality that you can really discern from a non-comparative screenshot. Hotspotting shows up well... does the light fade excessively at the edges with a bright glare in the middle? Despite some attempts to convince us otherwise, you can't really tell much about contrast, black levels, or ambient light handling.

But the screenshots on the first page of the main laminate thread show the improvement of Kilz2 vs Wilsonart DW laminate:



Clarence:

which part is the DW and which is the Kilz2 on the last screen shot?
post #16 of 134
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Originally Posted by neekos View Post

which part is the DW and which is the Kilz2 on the last screen shot?

Same as described when posted in the main laminate thread:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...&&#post8247958

Kilz2 on top
DW laminate on bottom
post #17 of 134
Thanks guys.

That's pretty impressive.
post #18 of 134
Seriously...I can't stop looking at that Bruce Willis screen shot. That very well may be the best screen shot I have ever seen.

I know, I know, screen shots should be taken with a grain of salt. "Only to give a general idea", "good for comparison if everything else is the same", etc. But that is just a terrific pic!
post #19 of 134
After some heavy reading in the DIY screen section, I finally opted to make myself a laminate screen out of DW. I just want to thank all the pioneers of all the diff. mediums for the wealth of info shared here.

My screen turned out great, and I am more than happy with the picture quality.

I thought I might share my particular application....i needed a screen that hinged down from the ceiling, due to the fact that I don't have an acceptable wall to hang it on, and it needed to be somewhat in the middle of the room.

After much thought, I decided it needed to be both rigid and light. The screen size i decided on is 98" x 54". I ended up doing a sandwich lamination consisting of wilsonart DW, then a sheet of honeycombed cardboard picked up from a packing supply house (I chose 1/2", but it is avail. up to 1" thick, I believe), with just a perimeter wood frame 1/2" thick to stiffen up the edges of the screen. on the back side, I used uncolored laminate--it's basically formica, but without the color layer. It is much lighter, thinner, yet very strong.

So overall, my screen is approx. 9/16" thick, surprisingly rigid, and very light. the sandwich is all glued together with contact adhesive.

Just a note-- it occurs to me that if someone were interested in building a curved screen, this could be done fairly easily by jigging up the components during the glueup process.

Thanks again for all the R and D shared here.

Paul
post #20 of 134
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Originally Posted by demoman99 View Post

I thought I might share my particular application....i needed a screen that hinged down from the ceiling, due to the fact that I don't have an acceptable wall to hang it on, and it needed to be somewhat in the middle of the room.
Paul

Paul, can you share some pictures of how your hinged screen works? I am in the same position where my screen hangs away from the wall. I've been pondering how to swing it up and store it on the ceiling but have yet to try anything. For now I have been taking it down and storing it in another room.
post #21 of 134
I've finally updated my site with finished pictures of the screen I built using designer white. I also added some picture of it in action.

Check them out here:
http://home.austin.rr.com/karnfamily

I'm very happy with the result of the designer white laminate.
post #22 of 134
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Originally Posted by skijunkie View Post

I've finally updated my site with finished pictures of the screen I built using designer white. I also added some picture of it in action.

Check them out here:
http://home.austin.rr.com/karnfamily



I'm very happy with the result of the designer white laminate.

Nice!
post #23 of 134
very nice !
post #24 of 134
Quote:
Originally Posted by demoman99 View Post

After some heavy reading in the DIY screen section, I finally opted to make myself a laminate screen out of DW. I just want to thank all the pioneers of all the diff. mediums for the wealth of info shared here.

My screen turned out great, and I am more than happy with the picture quality.

I thought I might share my particular application....i needed a screen that hinged down from the ceiling, due to the fact that I don't have an acceptable wall to hang it on, and it needed to be somewhat in the middle of the room.

After much thought, I decided it needed to be both rigid and light. The screen size i decided on is 98" x 54". I ended up doing a sandwich lamination consisting of wilsonart DW, then a sheet of honeycombed cardboard picked up from a packing supply house (I chose 1/2", but it is avail. up to 1" thick, I believe), with just a perimeter wood frame 1/2" thick to stiffen up the edges of the screen. on the back side, I used uncolored laminate--it's basically formica, but without the color layer. It is much lighter, thinner, yet very strong.

So overall, my screen is approx. 9/16" thick, surprisingly rigid, and very light. the sandwich is all glued together with contact adhesive.

Just a note-- it occurs to me that if someone were interested in building a curved screen, this could be done fairly easily by jigging up the components during the glueup process.

Thanks again for all the R and D shared here.

Paul

thats a great mounting idea , honeycombed cardboard. that should be place in the main thread.

Any pics? How much did it cost?
post #25 of 134
Wow! I'm blown away. Has anyone tried this screen with the AX100? I had better re-read this and the other thread to find out where they bought the material and for how much.
post #26 of 134
"thats a great mounting idea , honeycombed cardboard. that should be place in the main thread.

Any pics? How much did it cost?"

Hi Kosty and Ski junky.

I paid about the same as everyone for an 60" X 120" sheet of DW-- about 75$ from a supplier to the trades here in Portland Or. The cardboard was surprisingly expensive, about $35 for an 8' X 4' sheet 1/2" thick. Just to be clear, this isn't corrugated cardboard, but honeycombed. For my application, i figured it was worth it. It too was from a trade supplier, and they had a $50 minimum order...so I had to toss in a roll of craft paper that I didn't need and will last me forever.

Since there seems to be some interest....I started by cutting out the wood pieces that are the hard edges of the finished panel. I used 1/2" X 3" hardwood that I ran through a sander to get exactly the same thickness as the honeycombed panel. Then I cut my main sheet of DW to about 1/4" oversize in both H and W and layed it out on a very flat work table. I sprayed it with 3M contact adh, and also sprayed one side of the wood frame pieces, then attaced the frame. I had my two outside frame pieces extend beyond the top edge of the screen by 9", which is how far off my 7'6" ceiling the finished screen hangs.

Then I sprayed one side of the card board. Since the void within the wood frame pieces is taller than 48" (the height of the honeycomb cardboard), I cut some little 2"X4" strips out of the cardboard left over from the width cut, which I layed in every 12" or so to span from the bottom edge of the honeycomb panel to the top edge of the lower horizontal frame piece. Sounds complicated....basically, there is a 4" section near the bottom of my screen that is more or less hollow, but still has 1/2" material every 12" or so.

Last, I put on a layer of basic formica 'lining'....i'm not sure what it is called, but it is used to stabilize laminated surfaces on the back side of a finished surface, so that a laminated panel will not warp. It is much cheaper than finished laminate (not sure the price, I got it from a cab. maker friend....he said it was around $10/sheet). I used two sheets, seemed vertically in the middle of the screen, because this matl. is only avail in 4 X 8 sheets. Incidentally, this matl. is about 1/2 the weight of the DW, just as strong tensily, and has kind of a dull brown/rust color.

I then used a small router/laminate trimmer to flush out the laminate on both sides to the wood frame.

The whole thing was simpler than it sounds. But then again, I have access to a huge flat table, laminating tools, big table saw, thickness sander, etc. And, I am a wood worker and cabinet maker by trade.

I was going to edge cap the 1/2" edge of the finished panel with laminate, but in the end just spray painted it black, which looks nice and unobtrusive.

I also constructed a velvet border using a 1/2" plywood base. I made it in 4 pieces (the sides are full height by 3" wide, and the top and bottom pieces butt in to these. All 4 pieces are individually mounted with heavy duty self-stick velcro from Home Depot (they only had their heavy duty velcro in big rolls at $27--gulp, i have a lot left over). I wanted them removable and separate so that I could change out the top and bottom if I decided to get fancy with 2.35/1 ratio....

Last, I used hinges to mount it to the ceiling. The hinges I used have a 4" butt hinge (similar to a front door hinge) for one half of the hinge, and a narrow triangular leg for the other hinge that I through bolted to the 9" legs coming up from the top edge of my screen).

I'm still trying to figure out some way to neatly and securely latch it to the ceiling.

I'm happy. when you enter the home theater area (basically a daylight basement family room), you don't see the screen at all when it is hinged up to the ceiling as there is a beam that comes across the room, and the screen is hinged behind that.

I'm all about multi-use spaces! (although the truly dedicated HT's that I've seen in my lurking here are very, very sweet.)

Another slight issue that I have is that the screen does not hang perfectly vertical....it cants back away from the PJ an inch or so at the bottom, due to the offset of the hinge. I'm going to have to figure a way to get it canting the PJ an inch or so.

One last reason that I chose to do the honeycomb sandwich thing is because I want to be able to take it outside, and the double laminate veneer makes for a strong, stiff, flat, and moisture resistant panel. I don't know how much it weighs exactly....there is probably 20 lbs of laminate, 3 lbs of honeycomb, and maybe 8 lbs of wood frame....I can easily carry it by just gripping the top edge with both hands.

I haven't taken any pictures, but I hope to be getting the rest of the room in order this weekend....i still need to mount speakers, run cables, figure out my new Onkyo 674, get IR repeater stuff set up....when the room is less of a jumble, I'll snap a few and share.

Paul
post #27 of 134
I was impressed by the PQ of the Hulk on HDDVD, so I thought I'd add some screenshots to the laminate showcase...





post #28 of 134
[quote=Clarence]I was impressed by the PQ of the Hulk on HDDVD, so I thought I'd add some screenshots to the laminate showcase...QUOTE]

Which one's the Hulk in the last pic? Just kidding! Awesome pics! Wish my cheapy 4805 could show that kind of image... Oh well maybe in the future I can invest in a better projector.
post #29 of 134
Nice pic's!
post #30 of 134
Mech, good job. Where did you get your rope lights?
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