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Runco RS-1100 question

post #1 of 18
11/11/06 at 9:11pm
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Ok, perhaps I'm mislead...

The news post having to do with the "15 cinemascope" projectors lists the
Runco Reflections Series RS-1100 * at a MSRP: $11,995 and says that
"* Lens included. All other Runco projectors have CineWide with AutoScope options."

Am I misreading this? Or does the RS-1100 come equipped with a fixed anamorphic lens for $11,995 ? I coulda sworn this, which I believe would just be known as the Cinewide option, would be around 17-19k$.

So does the RS-1100 come with an anamorphic lens and external scaler for the price of $11,995, or what?


http://www.electronichouse.com/artic...t_cinemascope/
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post #2 of 18
11/12/06 at 1:37am
Not by the look of this

Mark
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post #3 of 18
11/12/06 at 7:48am
MSRP of the RS-1100 with CineWide is around $13,995.

The MSRP of the RS-1100 ULTRA with CineWide & AutoScope is $28,995.

An external scaler is not required if the CineWide option on the RS-1100 is taken. The projector has the internal scaler to do CIH without an external scaler as long as the CineWide option (anamorphic lens) is taken.
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post #4 of 18
11/13/06 at 4:33am
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Originally Posted by Haroon Malik View Post

MSRP of the RS-1100 with CineWide is around $13,995.

The MSRP of the RS-1100 ULTRA with CineWide & AutoScope is $28,995.

An external scaler is not required if the CineWide option on the RS-1100 is taken. The projector has the internal scaler to do CIH without an external scaler as long as the CineWide option (anamorphic lens) is taken.

So are they offering "CineWide" as an upgrade on all their projectors?

Mark
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post #5 of 18
11/13/06 at 5:40am
The Cinewide option is available on all projectors except the CL-410/420.

It is not available as an upgrade, only an option at the time of purchase. It cannot be added in the field later.

Gordon
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post #6 of 18
11/22/06 at 1:41pm
are you sure about that gordon?
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post #7 of 18
11/23/06 at 7:12pm
Linnfan

Yes I am sure. However, I would advise any owner or dealer seeking to upgrade to CineWide to consult their distributor. Who knows, if they are a big time dealer and can beat Sam at pool then I am sure it might be possible.

Do you play pool Linnfan?
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post #8 of 18
11/24/06 at 7:46am
The RS-1100 stand alone does not come with an anamorphic lens and sells for 11,995 MSRP. The Whitney lens (anamorphic) is an upgrade and sells for an additional $3000.00. This lens must be specified at the time of ordering and the lens will be fixed. No autoscope, unless the client chooses the RS-1100 ultra model. All RS-1100 comes with the SDC-1 digital controller.
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post #9 of 18
11/24/06 at 11:48pm
Marc

You should know that the SDC-1 digital controller is an option only on the CL-810 series and RS-1100 series projectors.

It does not come as standard with any projector.

Gordon
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post #10 of 18
11/26/06 at 4:20pm
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Originally Posted by Gordon McGlade View Post

Marc

You should know that the SDC-1 digital controller is an option only on the CL-810 series and RS-1100 series projectors.

It does not come as standard with any projector.

Gordon

You're right Gordon. My mistake. I was mixing up the old VX-1000ci with the DHD! The SDC-1 is an additional $2000.00 MSRP.
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post #11 of 18
11/26/06 at 10:30pm
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Originally Posted by Marc Ye View Post

The RS-1100 stand alone does not come with an anamorphic lens and sells for 11,995 MSRP. The Whitney lens (anamorphic) is an upgrade and sells for an additional $3000.00. This lens must be specified at the time of ordering and the lens will be fixed. No autoscope, unless the client chooses the RS-1100 ultra model. All RS-1100 comes with the SDC-1 digital controller.

And that $3K lens is a prism based VC...

Mark
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post #12 of 18
11/26/06 at 11:33pm
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Originally Posted by Haroon Malik View Post

An external scaler is not required if the CineWide option on the RS-1100 is taken. The projector has the internal scaler to do CIH without an external scaler as long as the CineWide option (anamorphic lens) is taken.


Does this internal scaler have no problem 2.35:1 scaling HD material (hd dvds / bluray)?
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post #13 of 18
1/10/07 at 12:17am
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And that $3K lens is a prism based VC...

And thats a problem because???
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post #14 of 18
1/10/07 at 12:33am
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Originally Posted by MODENA View Post

And thats a problem because???

Its not a problem is your happy leaving the lens in place all the time, but will be for those that want to remove the lens for native 16:9. You can't remove the VC if you want to maintain CIH...

Mark
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post #15 of 18
1/10/07 at 12:36am
Are ok - I thought you were impying it would cause quality issues or not be as good as other anamorphic lens options...
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post #16 of 18
1/10/07 at 4:14am
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Originally Posted by MODENA View Post

Are ok - I thought you were impying it would cause quality issues or not be as good as other anamorphic lens options...

From some literature I found, it is a simple 2 prisms (3 element) adaptor. VC prisms lenes in this class do actually perform better than HE prisms lenses, but at the expense of image size.

The other options are cylindrical HE lenses at way more than the prims VC costs...

Mark
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post #17 of 18
1/10/07 at 8:07pm
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Originally Posted by CAVX View Post

From some literature I found, it is a simple 2 prisms (3 element) adaptor. VC prisms lenes in this class do actually perform better than HE prisms lenses, but at the expense of image size.

The other options are cylindrical HE lenses at way more than the prims VC costs...

Mark

Do you have that literature to hand? I would really be interested in seeing it as this Runco is at the top of my buying list and I havent been able to find any litertature on this cine-wide lens at all.
email to magic@bgpond.net.au - ta.
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post #18 of 18
6/15/08 at 11:51pm
The Runco projector I saw demoed (which was either a RS1100 or VX2000) could be switched from 16:9 to cinewide with the press of a button. Which was very dramatic ... in the 16:9 mode it just looked like a large flat screen TV ... in cinewide mode the room took on the look a real theatre! The room was setup especially for the Runco projector with a the front speakers behind a semitransparent Stewart screen. It was an awesome display ... which I wish I could afford!
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