New <$300 sub choices from Elemental Designs... - Page 30

Hi Chris,

Why just one person? This seems to be a large contribution to the bottleneck that is affecting delivery times, moreso than inventory control or supply line management.

I ask because a good friend of mine is mid-process in building out a theater and has asked me for a good budget conscious alternative. The A5-300 looks like a good choice on paper at least, but I'd hate to make a recommendation and have him go thru heck just to get it delivered.

Thanks in advance.


Tim

Their is such a thing as a business expanding too fast. I think they are handling it properly. They need to ensure that the demand they are seeing is sustainable over a period of time before expanding. What would happen if they expanded right now to meet the surge in orders and then found out that the surge wasn't sustainable? Expanding too fast has put many small business out of business.

Tim,

Greg pretty much nailed it.

The original sale of A2-300's killed us. We sold more than 100 of the things in 3 days. That had us backed up for months. At that point in time we could only paint 4 things every 4 days. Now we can get somewhere around 16 things out every 2 days. Works out to about 8x faster in paint which is a good thing.

Now we're to the point that it's very possible we could get ahead of the game with only JJ in the back and occasional help from up front, but hiring a second person back there just wouldn't make sense yet.

We're constantly investing in better hardware for the back. We now have a giant compressor anchored to the concrete, we've run 3 separate lines from the circuit box to the back so that the CNC doesn't bog down when you turn on the router, and we have a new dust collection system. Purchasing items to make the woodshop more efficient comes before we hire additional people.

We really are efficient enough now that we can catch up, it's just a matter of nothing breaking or buying something new that needs to be installed to work again. Right now, I'm pretty sure we're at that point. In 2 weeks time we should have a stocked inventory of everything that we're shipping on a regular basis.

The A7 series subs will still be a built to order kind of thing, but that's just because they take up soooo much space and are quite a bit more time consuming to build. If we can inventory enough of the smaller ones though, we could probably start keeping a couple of them on hand as well.

If you have any other questions or concerns, please let me know.

Oh, A5-300's there are a few built right now, just need to get rounded over and painted. Should have a couple in inventory mid/late next week.

Thanks Chris for the reasoned reply. I'm glad you took my comments in the right light, not meant to be derogatory.

I'll be in touch if he wants to go with you guys. (I kinda hope so, because I'd love to hear/measure one of your products installed.)


Tim

Hopefully by summer's end I will be added to the number of A2-300 owners so stock up CHRIS!

I've done plenty of work for manufacturing,etc companies and the layman consumer has no clue how companies work..many expect,"POOF HERE IT IS!" And just can't understand why you have to wait on a truck to arrive for new inventory...

got that from alex. i was never told a specific month or period of time listed by months...always was told in days.

Im sorry for any confusion.

I think I should have worded it differently.

When I gave days. It was days from the original estimate of 90 days.

Which should still be around end of June.

I have had a cerwin vega 10inch powered sub for over 10 years and searching for a new sub. I will use this sub for mid bass.

BETWEEN the A2,A3 AND A5 which subwoofer has the better quality jump. noticeable to the human ear and not going on numbers. Since i can't hear them, is the difference between the A2 and A3 more noticeable than the A3 and A5?

I have read the stats of each on your web site and understand them. I just don't know how those numbers relate to hearing them. I really think any of the 3 would be an improvement.

price of course is better with the A2. size is better for my application with the a3 and a5.
room size is 14.5ft. x 21.5ft. x 9ft.

any witnessed opinions of these subs would be greatly appreciated, thank you.

I received my A2 yesterday. What an upgrade from what I had. It's nice to "feel" the movie now as well as having much cleaner bass. I put on Reign of Fire a little bit ago and my wife came in and said that stuff is rattling in the house

BTW, I also bought 3 of their MTM speakers to replace my front and center speakers. They don't have a Bi-pole surround speaker so I got a couple of Polk FXi3's. I am very pleased with the sub and speakers that I bought from eD.

I just ordered an a3-300.

I'm curious as to how this thing is going to take to get to me, hopefully not too long as I'm lacking a sub since my HSU died a couple of weeks ago.

I ordered one Sunday June17, it's been in the wood shop since Monday.

I sent them an email tonight after work to try and get an estimated arrival time.

I'll post back tomorrow if I get a reply.

These estimates from eD's site are for after the unit has been built.

eD to California : 4-5 Business Days for Ground Shipping
eD to Michigan : 2-3 Business Days for Ground Shipping
eD to Florida : 4-5 Business Days for Ground Shipping
eD to Texas : 3-4 Business Days for Ground Shipping

Wow...after it goes all those places, it'll eventually showup at your door about 25 days later

I ordered one towards the end of May and it took 15 or 16 days from the day it was ordered to show up at my door. It was worth the wait.

Darn, I guess I'm getting the shaft. I ordered an A3-300 on 4/27. They said 2 weeks, I'm still waiting.

Mine was an A2-300. I don't know if that makes a difference.

That worries me a bit, but I guess I can wait.

I'd give them a call if I were you, something seems amiss with having to wait that long.

I thought they were caught up for the most part on the backorders.

Hello Sir,

Give me a call at 641.792.2501. I will be more than happy to look into the situation and make sure we can get it remedied for you.

Thank you.

Alex Lindeman
Elemental Designs
alexl@edesignaudio.com

Nah, like I mentioned yesterday, it was a bit of a mixup in the shipping dept. where your order was moved to shipped after being set to our Box Under Construction status, so in our system it was simply marked as shipped.

Your sub will actually be going out later today as it came out of the paint booth yesterday.

As for anyone wondering if this could happen in the future, it won't. I've made sure that the shipping software gives warnings if everything on an order isn't shipped. I've also gone through all old orders to make sure all boxes were shipped out.

I just received an email stating that my a3-300 will go out in 1-2 weeks. It sounds like the backup has been resolved and hopefully I'll have it in hand by early July.

I thought it was resolved months ago...??

Super huge delays were resolved.

Right now, we're able to build them as they're ordered. Everytime we finish a production run of them, they're all sold.

We had a single extra A2-300 this morning and out the door it went within about 5 seconds of assembly.

Received a reply today from Chris;

"We have a batch of those going into paint in the next couple days. Yours should ship out in about a week."

It would be nice to have it before the 4th of July, then I'd have all of the 4th to play with it.

oops sorry for my bad english in the last post..eek!

Thanks for looking into it. I got the tracking number today. I was warned up front that I would have to wait for an A3, but the A2's were ready to ship. I was waiting for a receiver anyways, so I didn't think it would be a big deal. Then the receiver arrived... I was just surprised when others were getting theirs while I was still waiting.

Once again sir.

We are sorry for the delay, and got yours out right away.

In all about 15 HT cabinets shipped yesterday. It was fun packaging those in 90+ degree weather and 159% humidity.

maybe the others ordered before you,igo...hmmm.

Does Elemental Designs have "B-Stock" or outlet for Home Audio subwoofers? I could not find one on their website.

Are A3's taking 1-2 weeks to build?

I want to upgrade my 10" STF-2 HSU sub to a 12" sub. How much is the difference in sound/bass quality between A5-300, A3-300 and A2-300? I don't need max output but need lower extension. How much would the difference be from the HSU I currently own? How do these sub compare to 12" HSU and SVS subs? Are these subs good for muisc ? My HT room is 20 *11*8 with an opening that leads to a small foyer.