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post #1 of 122
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I popped in Mutiny on the Bounty last night to see how it looked. All I can say is it looks like another winner from Warner. The transfer from what I saw was stunning. I'm going to watch the entire film this weekend.
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How did the native girls look?
post #3 of 122
another great 65mm transfer from Warners - woohoo!
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I wish that I could find some of these titles in my area. NO Casablanca, NO Forbidden Planet, and NO Mutiny on the Bounty. . . . and to think, I thought I lived in a pretty good metropoliton area???
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I don't much care for it as a movie---too self-important, too bloated and too long by an hour---but the transfer is gorgeous. And so are the Tahitian dancing girls (whose leis and hair stay strategically glued in place, sad to say). The seawater in particular just looks incredibly lifelike. Don't fall in!
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Love the movie Hey it's Brando when he had a good day. Colors are beautiful, images are sharp, cinema scope is unreal. This will be the widest tracked movie in my collection 2.76:1 aspect.
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This was a no show in my area, along with Casablanca and Forbidden Planet. I haven't seen this one and wasn't confident enough for a blind buy from Amazon.
post #8 of 122
Yes,a superb transfer indeed,IMO better even than Grand Prix and the Searchers.

A very underrated Film in all aspects,Although not as factualy correct as the 1984 's The bounty , being based on the same novel i believe as the 1935 version
I prefer this version to the other two,for its epic feel,great score,and Director of photography by the great Robert L.Surtees (Ben-Hur).

Dark ink like blacks,bright color, little if any grain. This is how Spartacus should have looked.

The performance from Marlon Brando i found to be excellant as it was from Trevor Howard , Richard Harris and others.

Very wide aspect ratio Ultra Panavision 70mm 2.76:1, Special Effects are also very good for 1962 and stand up well today with no computer effects . This film has never been released on DVD untill now.Well done Warner Brothers for the restoration and releasing it on HD-DVD as well.
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Originally Posted by guitarman View Post

Love the movie Hey it's Brando when he had a good day. Colors are beautiful, images are sharp, cinema scope is unreal. This will be the widest tracked movie in my collection 2.76:1 aspect.

Whats ben hur again? Is that 2.70?
post #10 of 122
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Originally Posted by Odge View Post

Yes,a superb transfer indeed,IMO better even than Grand Prix and the Searchers.

A very underrated Film in all aspects,
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That's great to hear! I was hoping this one would look good, as t was the release I was most looking forward to this week. Should be getting it tomorrow.
And I agree that its a very underrated film. With this release though, that may start to change. Bravo to Warner for seeing the quality inherent in the production and going to the trouble to make it as special a release as they did.

As for Spartacus- I never saw the 91 release theatrically. Is this really what it looked like? I don't know that its fair to judge to distinctly seperate films just because they happen to share the same film stock or camera. There are just way too many variables. Apparently though with Mr Harriss silence, that probably is an indication that its not up to snuff- I just wish someone privvy to the issues could fill the rest of us in so we aren't arguing in the dark.
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As for Spartacus- I never saw the 91 release theatrically. Is this really what it looked like?

Trust me. I saw it at the Ziegfeld Theater in NYC on the B-I-G screen! It did NOT look grainy like the new HD-DVD does. The print was not perfect by any means, and I wasn't expecting it to look as good as say "The Searchers". But I was very disappointed with what I've seen.
post #12 of 122
Ben-Hur 's Aspect Ratio is also 2.76:1 and was filmed using MGM Camera 65 ,one of the first 70mm film formats,which evolved into Ultra-Panavision 70 i believe.

It may be a while before we see Ben-Hur on HD-DVD but if Mutiny looks this good
Ben-Hur should look at least as good if not better.
post #13 of 122
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Originally Posted by Odge View Post

Ben-Hur 's Aspect Ratio is also 2.76:1 and was filmed using MGM Camera 65 ,one of the first 70mm film formats,which evolved into Ultra-Panavision 70 i believe.

It may be a while before we see Ben-Hur on HD-DVD but if Mutiny looks this good
Ben-Hur should look at least as good if not better.

Ben Hur should look better due to being a very nice showcase for wide vistas, I think Mutiny is a rather unusual movie for Ultra Panavision as what happens on board of a ship is not really something I would shoot in Ultra Panavision 70 but rather in standard Super Panavision 70. But then I am thankful for every movie done in the process - there are only so few, which is a shame.

BTW: MGM Camera 65 and Ultra Panavision 70 were the same process, only 9 movies shot like that during the 9 years it was in use:

list of Ultra Panavision 70/MGM Camera 65 movies

Of those only 7 really got a release with the proper aspect ratio 70 mm prints, so this is a very rare format.
post #14 of 122
Thanks for the reviews guys. Looks like a must buy.
post #15 of 122
Well I mistaken this movie with "Bounty" which has Mel Gibson in it

So, I guess I haven't seen this version yet.

Can someone compare the two? Thanks
post #16 of 122
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Originally Posted by Oliver Klohs View Post

Ben Hur should look better due to being a very nice showcase for wide vistas, I think Mutiny is a rather unusual movie for Ultra Panavision as what happens on board of a ship is not really something I would shoot in Ultra Panavision 70 but rather in standard Super Panavision 70. But then I am thankful for every movie done in the process - there are only so few, which is a shame.

BTW: MGM Camera 65 and Ultra Panavision 70 were the same process, only 9 movies shot like that during the 9 years it was in use:

list of Ultra Panavision 70/MGM Camera 65 movies

Of those only 7 really got a release with the proper aspect ratio 70 mm prints, so this is a very rare format.

I would assume when and if WB releases 'Battle of the Bulge' on HD-DVD the transfer should be equally good.

So, what's up with MGM, which titles are Sony's and WB's - will the eventual 'It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad, World' be a WB or Sony release? (and who owns the rights to 'West Side Story'?)
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I would assume when and if WB releases 'Battle of the Bulge' on HD-DVD the transfer should be equally good.

So, what's up with MGM, which titles are Sony's and WB's - will the eventual 'It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad, World' be a WB or Sony release? (and who owns the righst to 'West Side Story'?)


IT'S A MAD, MAD, MAD, MAD WORLD is a United Artists title and would be a MGM/Fox release. Warner controls the MGM titles up until 1986 (I think). Of this list I would say HOW THE WEST WAS WON is a real safe bet for HD DVD release by Warner next year, as would BEN HUR and RAINTREE COUNTY. WEST WIDE STORY is also UA and would be a MGM/Fox release.
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IT'S A MAD, MAD, MAD, MAD WORLD is a United Artists title and would be a MGM/Fox release. Warner controls the MGM titles up until 1986 (I think). Of this list I would say HOW THE WEST WAS WON is a real safe bet for HD DVD release by Warner next year, as would BEN HUR and RAINTREE COUNTY. WEST WIDE STORY is also UA and would be a MGM/Fox release.

merde (re: Mad World and WSS)
post #19 of 122
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Originally Posted by Giles37 View Post

So, what's up with MGM, which titles are Sony's and WB's (and who owns the rights to 'West Side Story'?)

Fall of the Roman Empire is with Hollywood Classics and they do not have the resources that for example Fox or Warner have so an HD transfer done right (4 to 8k scan) might take some time. Martin Scorsese helped to rerelease another Mann Epic in the 90ies, El Cid, so maybe someone should contact him about Fall which is also a movie special to him.

Greatest Story Ever told was released on MGM DVD so it is a candidate for a BlueRay release, same with Khartoum and the Hallelujah Trail.

Ultra Panavision 70 was invented due to input from MGM so it is no surprise they made most of the movies in that format.
post #20 of 122
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Originally Posted by Oliver Klohs View Post

Fall of the Roman Empire is with Hollywood Classics and they do not have the resources that for example Fox or Warner have so an HD transfer done right (4 to 8k scan) might take some time. Martin Scorsese helped to rerelease another Mann Epic in the 90ies, El Cid, so maybe someone should contact him about Fall which is also a movie special to him.

Greatest Story Ever told was released on MGM DVD so it is a candidate for a BlueRay release, same with Khartoum and the Hallelujah Trail.

Ultra Panavision 70 was invented due to input from MGM so it is no surprise they made most of the movies in that format.

Oliver

are there any European releases of El Cid/ Fall of The Roman Empire that aren't public domain?

All the ones down here are sh*t
post #21 of 122
JUST received the HD-DVD of Mutiny . Comparing it to the DVD version I was surprised at how well the DVD held up. Of course the HD-dvd is a no brainer as it is sharper and has more lavish colors
post #22 of 122
"Raintree County" should look spectacular if released in HD. Hopefully, the sound track will really show off Johnny Green's remarkable score (large orchestra and chorus).

I saw it more than once at the now defunct Stanley Warner Beverly Hills Theater (reserved seating).

The sound on the laser disc version does not do this film justice.
post #23 of 122
Once again this is one of my favorite movies and the HD DVD release is the best I have ever seen it.

I set up my Mitsubishi HC3000 with a extra wide screen and removable side masking so I could optically expand the image to feet the entire 8 feet of my screen width.

My friends freaked out at the width and size of the movie. I also liked seeing the deleted prologue and epilogue, not historically accurate but interesting nonetheless.

Once again, I am in HD heaven. This is what I want the classic HD movies to look like. The best they have ever been.

BTW, anyone else notice that they look at the extras a lot more on the HD DVD discs more that they ever did on the standard DVDs?
post #24 of 122
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Originally Posted by williamtassone View Post

Oliver

are there any European releases of El Cid/ Fall of The Roman Empire that aren't public domain?

All the ones down here are sh*t


Of the Bronston movies I have dug up fairly nice transfers of El Cid and 55 Days in Peking. Both are 2.0 sound only though. They are from Black Hill Pictures and distributed through Warner.

No luck so far with Empire - all transfers I saw are hampered by very dullish colors and fail to show the splendid photography of this movie.
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I also liked seeing the deleted prologue and epilogue, not historically accurate but interesting nonetheless.

Actually, it was accurate. The only difference is that it was not the gardener they found but John Adams (and a bunch of women and children). All the others were dead. And I believe the Captain was played by Torin Thatcher (7TH VOYAGE OF SINBAD)
post #26 of 122
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I watched it on Saturday all the way through. It is reference quality along with KING KONG, BATMAN BEGINS, SEABISCUIT, CORPSE BRIDE, THE SEARCHERS, GRAND PRIX. I love this format!
post #27 of 122
For the few minutes I saw of this I was disappointed. Im watching it at 8 feet wide though. It looked as though NR was used which cased a little edginess. Ill have to take another look. To me it was definitely not reference but not as bad a Fast Times or Army of Darkness.
I love these type movies though so I will enjoy it for my personal pleasure but would never show this one to show off my system when there are far better reference titles for that.
post #28 of 122
For its age, it has remarkable consistency. The scenes of the ship are particularly good because of all the definition in the ropes and the stark ocean with white crests. I thought it was excellent. The 2.70 widescreen is not lost on viewers, many of which ask why it is so wide. I am glad it maintained that extreme wide angle as the shot choices really emphasized widescreen and peripheral extremes. I rented this disc, but now am compelled to purchase it. Any fan of the movie will be impressed by its current presentation.
post #29 of 122
I only got a chance to do a quick skip thru a couple chapters, but I was thrilled with what I saw.
I've been wanting to see this verision again for a while, and to be able to get in HD and looking like this...I'm extremely happy
post #30 of 122
It does indeed look good for the age of the print and probably the best they could do with it but putting it side by side with ATL for instance and its no match. By far it is better then the DVD and an all time favorite. I will still enjoy this one.
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