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post #31 of 910
11/16/06 at 5:55am
I was bored last night just putzing around on Nvidia's website and found a PDF check list for doing BD and HD dvd playback and showed the following sofware needed for playback:

o CyberLink PowerDVD 6.5 (HD DVD)
o CyberLink PowerDVD 6.6 (Blu-ray)
o InterVideo WinDVD 7.5 HD (HD DVD)
o InterVideo WinDVD 7.5 BD (Blu-ray)
o Nero ShowTime 3 (Blu-ray & HD DVD)

Someone told me that Nero Showtime 3 is included with Nero 7 Platinum, can anyone who has Nero confirm if it has Showtime 3 and works for either or?

here's the link to the check list: http://download.nvidia.com/downloads...ing_a_HDPC.pdf

- Josh
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post #32 of 910
11/16/06 at 6:02am
I thought I saw someone post that Nero Showtime is no go.
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post #33 of 910
11/16/06 at 6:03am
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I did, yes. I have Nero 7 Ultimate Edition and Nero Showtime would not play them back.
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post #34 of 910
11/16/06 at 7:26am
A great thank you to madpoet and pteittinen for the great work!
Nice to see my windvd jap now at 1920x1080!
c'mon guys! now fix the problem also with HD-DVD!
I guess you must to work on the patch file..how it fix for BD it can for sure fix also for HD-DVD.
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post #35 of 910
11/16/06 at 7:52am
Wish I had a HD DVD drive... Without one it's kinda hard to 'unlock the full potential' of WinDVD 8 HD. Xbox add-on drive is not released over here in Europe yet, and it will be 2007 before it's released here in Finland. UK release is on the 24th of this month, I hope to score one from there. That will give me a nice incentive to dive into WinDVD
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post #36 of 910
11/16/06 at 7:53am
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Originally Posted by capitano View Post

I guess you must to work on the patch file..how it fix for BD it can for sure fix also for HD-DVD.

I don't think so. The patch discussed above is for I-O Data's Blu-ray drive, so there's little hope of it having anything to do with HD DVD playback.
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post #37 of 910
11/16/06 at 8:18am
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Well... yes and no. Like I said, the patch has let me enable acceleration in a round-about way I believe. Still working on the scaling.
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post #38 of 910
11/16/06 at 10:01am
We could always set up a Cyberlink/Intervideo bribery fund. The first employee to give us a working copy gets the pot of gold.
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post #39 of 910
11/16/06 at 10:17am
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Originally Posted by madpoet View Post

Some progress, some set backs

First, on the progress front. Once you have the BD version updated with the newest patch as above you can set the hardware acceleration, etc; If you then export the reg keys under HKLM\\Software\\Intervideo and import them once you have installed WinDVD HD the settings carry over. You have to go in and make BDSupport 0 and HDSupport 1. The keys are still greyed out, but they are now checked. I THINK I'm getting acceleration but I need more testing to be sure.

On the bad side... I went tro play some more BD disks last night, newer stuff like KoH. WinDVD kept giving me an error saying the disks were encoded for Region A and I needed a Region A player to play them. I tried setting the region on my drive to North America but it didn't help. *sigh* I am baffled. The Cyberlink player plays them fine BTW, so it's (again) a WinDVD thing.

Can you post the exported reg key??
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post #40 of 910
11/16/06 at 10:19am
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Yes, I will tonight. It's really not a big deal and you can do it yourself if you want to take the time. But I'll up my copy this evening. Please note though, I will edit out my own serial numbers from the reg key
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post #41 of 910
11/16/06 at 11:22am
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Ok... I believe this reg file will do what I was talking about. Please let me know if it doesn't. You MAY require the files from the BD patched version for it to work correctly. Here's how I did it:

1) Install WinDVDBD version, reboot
2) Patch it
3) Export the reg files and edit it for HD DVD support
4) Copy out the contents on the WinDVD BD folder... not the skins and all, just the files at the root of the folder.
5) Install WinDVD HD
6) Import this reg file
7) Copy in the patched files that you copied out before

Rename the .txt to .reg and import them. Then try it without the copied in files and let me know how it goes. If it works correctly you should have the options checked but the boxes are still greyed out.

 

test.txt 9.203125k . file
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post #42 of 910
11/16/06 at 11:47am
Just in case, some more info regarding the Toshiba notebook HD-DVD players...

The Qosmio G30->G35-AV650 series laptops are bundled with Intervideo WinDVD HD.

The Qosmio G35-AV660 series laptops are bundled with an internally developed player, the previously mentioned Toshiba HD DVD Player.

The bundled WinDVD HD versions seems to correspond to the following builds...
WinDVD version 7.5 B41.030C33.36900.06
WinDVD version 7.5 B41.056C33.37864.06
WinDVD version 7.5 B41.057C33.37971.06
WinDVD version 7.5 B41.071C33.38623.06
WinDVD version 7.5 B41.083C33.39381.06
WinDVD version 7.5 B41.102C33.40416.06

Also, the latest update for this version is offered at the previously linked Intervideo ftp site and updates any of the above to B41.110C33.40976.06.

Finally, maybe someone can convince one of the AVS forum members from the following thread to help us out with a copy of their bundled player?

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=694287
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post #43 of 910
11/16/06 at 11:47am
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Edited... I updated the FAQ to include the information I felt comfortable distributing. If you follow the new BD installation instructions I promise you it WILL work.
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post #44 of 910
11/16/06 at 12:51pm
^^ I think that's the correct way to handle this issue, as we are skirting the edge of legality, I suppose.
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post #45 of 910
11/16/06 at 12:56pm
I was able to enable the check boxes for hardware acceleration on the HD version.
1. Install BD version with patch.
2. Export DVDEX registry settings and Backup WINDVD BD directory.
3. Uninstall WINDVD and WINDVD BD
4. Reboot
5. Install WINDVD HD (Japanese) and apply patch.
6. Import exported BD reg file and change a couple of keys to reflect the proper version.
7. Copy backed up BD directory files only to WINDVD HD directory and overwrite only if newer and be sure to replace WINDVD.exe with the BD version.

I was not able to test playback yet, but the program seems to be uncrippled....MADPOET, please let me know if I am missing anything because I have not tested it.
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post #46 of 910
11/16/06 at 12:59pm
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Looks like you got it all... let us know how well it works for you.
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post #47 of 910
11/16/06 at 1:03pm
madpoet, have you solved your Region coding problem yet?
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post #48 of 910
11/16/06 at 1:10pm
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Yes, the fix I PM'd you has the tab that allows you to configure the BD region. Doing it the old way you never got that tab.
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post #49 of 910
11/16/06 at 1:20pm
^^ Great!
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post #50 of 910
11/16/06 at 2:10pm
Whew - with the expense of upgrading my HTPC and the issues concerning getting the HD software to work - a setup box may be my best option.

But I have a few questions. I just started to research a HD-DVD so I may be asking a stupid question. Isn't it 2 seperate HD-DVD systems? Which one will the HTPC version work with?
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post #51 of 910
11/16/06 at 2:24pm
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Originally Posted by rgathright View Post

Whew - with the expense of upgrading my HTPC and the issues concerning getting the HD software to work - a setup box may be my best option.

But I have a few questions. I just started to research a HD-DVD so I may be asking a stupid question. Isn't it 2 seperate HD-DVD systems? Which one will the HTPC version work with?

Yes there are two, Blue Ray, and HD DVD, both are independant of each other, and both are working with HTPC's.

Blue Ray (aka BD) works perfectly fine with PC's and at full Rez. The problem now is trying to get HD DVD to playback at full rez.

Also if you look at it this way. The cost of upgraded hardware, and the ability to playback both BD and HD DVD in one box far out weights the costs of a stand alone DB and stand alone HD DVD player.

- Josh
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post #52 of 910
11/16/06 at 2:34pm
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Originally Posted by umdivx View Post

Yes there are two, Blue Ray, and HD DVD, both are independant of each other, and both are working with HTPC's.

Blue Ray (aka BD) works perfectly fine with PC's and at full Rez. The problem now is trying to get HD DVD to playback at full rez.

Also if you look at it this way. The cost of upgraded hardware, and the ability to playback both BD and HD DVD in one box far out weights the costs of a stand alone DB and stand alone HD DVD player.

- Josh

So "BD" is Blue Ray? Is "DB" short for HD-DVD? My biggest concern is that I may have to change out my motherboard.

Why is Blue Ray so much more than HD-DVD?
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post #53 of 910
11/16/06 at 2:48pm
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Originally Posted by rgathright View Post

So "BD" is Blue Ray? Is "DB" short for HD-DVD? My biggest concern is that I may have to change out my motherboard.

Why is Blue Ray so much more than HD-DVD?

No BD = Blue Ray Disc , DB means nothing, Sony wanted to differentiate them selves from HD DVD so they called it BD (Blue Ray Disc) HD for us here means HD DVD, simple as that.

Whats the specs of your hardware right now?

and Sony only knows why BD is so expensive.

- Josh
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post #54 of 910
11/16/06 at 3:32pm
Ahem. That's "Blu-ray" and "HD DVD"
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post #55 of 910
11/16/06 at 4:37pm
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I just altered the BD install section to reflect part of the discovery that I made this afternoon (the legal part!). If you want full functionaliy for BD playback I strongly suggest you use this method. Once someone other than me confirms the method for modifying the HD DVD install I will update that section as well.
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post #56 of 910
11/16/06 at 5:06pm
I'll test out the hardware acceleration enabling instructions and get right back to you.

Damn 20 min to download the BD patch.

On the other hand

http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid...e=expert&pid=3

This appears to validate that the image quality can hit full rez as it looks like they compared Xbox 360 + HD-DVD addon to a real working solution with Cyberlink Power DVD HD-DVD edition.
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post #57 of 910
11/16/06 at 5:07pm
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Originally Posted by umdivx View Post

No BD = Blue Ray Disc , DB means nothing, Sony wanted to differentiate them selves from HD DVD so they called it BD (Blue Ray Disc) HD for us here means HD DVD, simple as that.

Whats the specs of your hardware right now?

and Sony only knows why BD is so expensive.

- Josh

I will have to check on what model video card I have. It is an ATI 800? It does have a DVI output, which I have converted to component. My wife is watching Survivor, so cannot turn it on to check now. I have an AMD Athlon system, but I cannot remember what speed.

The DVD drive is just a common drive-nothing fancy.
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post #58 of 910
11/16/06 at 5:41pm
Hi,

Is anyone aware of HD DVD emulator? That's what I would like very very much. Something like Daemon Tools or NeroDrive with the ability to mount virtual HD and Blu Ray DVDs.

I'd settle for HD DVD emulator-only. Sony can have their BluD and stick it...

I just bought HDV camcorder. How, I need to play my wonderful footage in full resolution and not from cam somehow.

Actually, I can do HD Vidx /Xvid...But still, emulator would be nice.
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post #59 of 910
11/16/06 at 5:47pm
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Ok... I have an alternative (and easier) method now for installing the patch to enable HW acceleration in HD DVD. If anyone can confirm my findings with either the old method or the new, I'd appreciate it. Currently my HD DVD drive is on loan to a friend for the weekend! So what I need independent confirmation on is the following:

1) This method does enable the checkboxes for you
2) The checkboxes do work for acceleration
3) You now have full rez video

New method:

1) Install WinDVD HD version, reboot
2) Get the SERIALCODE key out of the registry.
3) Copy the folders from under the WinDVD HD folder out. Leave the files at the root, just copy the folders like XML.
4) Install the patch file you downloaded. This will say you already have a BD version installed, even through you don't. That's ok. Run the install and let it overwrite the files.
5) Copy back in the folders you copied out, overwriting the files when it asks.
6) In the registry go to HKLM\\Software\\Intervideo and change BDSupport to 0 and HDSupport to 1.

That's it! I now have full access to the checkboxes and HD DVD tabs, so I can adjust them as needed. I THINk I have full resolution and acceleration but I don't have my drive anymore to test. So someone, please let me know if I'm right!
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post #60 of 910
11/16/06 at 6:00pm
so just to clear things a little:

#2 location to look for the Serial code in the registry

#3 you just copy all the files, basically making a second copy and moving them to a different folder for later use?

#4 which patch are you talking about? Link please?

thanks,
Josh
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