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post #61 of 185
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Originally Posted by beatboy77
Just got through watching the majority of TOTS. To my eye, I see no difference between the BD-P1000 and the PS3. Both produce a nice picture, although somewhat soft at times.

I have also watched a bit of Ice Age. I am somewhat dissapointed in this title. In some of the scenes where blue is the dominant color, I am almost seeing banding, similar to what you would see in certain LCD tv's.

The PS3 is very quiet. It is more quiet then the Xbox 360. I have noticed that the PS3 produces a very high level of heat. When I was watching Ice Age, the PS3 froze and I had to re-start once. Hopefully we do not have heat issues with this device.

More reviews shortly. I will take a look at Blackhawk Down and Talledaga Nights. Also I will look at Terminator and 5th Element to see if the PS3 improves PQ at all.

~Josh
Freezing on a movie? Uh, not good.
post #62 of 185
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Originally Posted by beatboy77
I just got done watching Blackhawk Down. Once again I see no improvement over the BD-P1000. Both produced a nice picture.

I also watched bits of Terminator and 5th Element and there was no improvement in PQ. These two discs just suffer from a very poor transfer.

My main concern for the PS3 remains the amount of heat it generates. I had it freeze-up two more times during the viewing of Blackhawk Down. This concerns me because I have it placed on a shelf with plenty of air movement. It gets a bit annoying have to reboot and find the chapter where you left off.

~Josh
As I keep reading...more lockups...on a movie?!?!? Ugh. Sure, the 360 locks up at times during a game, but never during a movie, and HD-DVD at that too. I know the 360 runs quiet with the HD-DVD add-on, how does it compare with the PS3 in HD/BD viewing only?
post #63 of 185
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Originally Posted by makeusleep
It was noted in another thread for hdmi to synch..

"you need first to connect the analog cables that come with the ps3 and the hdmi cable to the minotor. when you start up your ps3 make sure that in system settings you change to hdmi. then change the setting on the benq monitor to hdmi. only this way it works."
Is that documented in the manual? Or is this an error that someone found and has a solution to fix it?
post #64 of 185
I'm pretty sure that is simply because the default video output is set to use the cables that come with the system.

You need to connect it with those to see what you are doing, so you can change the video output to HDMI.
post #65 of 185
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Chris Rein
As I keep reading...more lockups...on a movie?!?!? Ugh. Sure, the 360 locks up at times during a game, but never during a movie, and HD-DVD at that too. I know the 360 runs quiet with the HD-DVD add-on, how does it compare with the PS3 in HD/BD viewing only?
IMO the Xbox 360 HD-DVD add-on has a consistently better PQ then the PS3. I almost feel now after playing with this for the better part of 12 Hours that the PS3 is mainly designed for game play and not for movie play. As far as movie play goes, I can confidently tell everyone I prefer my BD-P1000. I will know more about game play tomorrow when I get a couple of games.

~Josh
post #66 of 185
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Originally Posted by beatboy77
IMO the Xbox 360 HD-DVD add-on has a consistently better PQ then the PS3. I almost feel now after playing with this for the better part of 12 Hours that the PS3 is mainly designed for game play and not for movie play. As far as movie play goes, I can confidently tell everyone I prefer my BD-P1000. I will know more about game play tomorrow when I get a couple of games.

~Josh
This is good news!! now if the games don't have better graphics than i might not need to buy a PS3! i love the 360 controller! and i just got that hd-dvd for $160 and it looks great!
post #67 of 185
thanks for the feedback here bb77. being that you own all systems this is very useful unlike alot of reports and posts.

unfortunately since i'm looking to dip into bluray movie player at a better price (than $999 and such) i just got a reality cheack to wait out & hunt around for a bargain BD-P1000 and pass on the PS3.
post #68 of 185
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Originally Posted by beatboy77
IMO the Xbox 360 HD-DVD add-on has a consistently better PQ then the PS3. I almost feel now after playing with this for the better part of 12 Hours that the PS3 is mainly designed for game play and not for movie play. As far as movie play goes, I can confidently tell everyone I prefer my BD-P1000. I will know more about game play tomorrow when I get a couple of games.

~Josh
Interesting....

Thanks for the impressions, please keep them coming as they are much appreciated.
post #69 of 185
so the PS3 is not yet a real BR player hein? It'st pitty! i am under way to conclude my order! Could you confirm once for all? my real interest is BR player :confused:
post #70 of 185
Josh,

What type of HDMI connector does it have? I know it is 1.3, but is it the smaller/newer connector style, or the current common version?
post #71 of 185
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Originally Posted by beatboy77
I just got done watching Blackhawk Down. Once again I see no improvement over the BD-P1000. Both produced a nice picture.

I also watched bits of Terminator and 5th Element and there was no improvement in PQ. These two discs just suffer from a very poor transfer.

My main concern for the PS3 remains the amount of heat it generates. I had it freeze-up two more times during the viewing of Blackhawk Down. This concerns me because I have it placed on a shelf with plenty of air movement. It gets a bit annoying have to reboot and find the chapter where you left off.

~Josh
Well as a potential buyer this is very concerning.
post #72 of 185
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Originally Posted by beatboy77
IMO the Xbox 360 HD-DVD add-on has a consistently better PQ then the PS3. I almost feel now after playing with this for the better part of 12 Hours that the PS3 is mainly designed for game play and not for movie play. As far as movie play goes, I can confidently tell everyone I prefer my BD-P1000. I will know more about game play tomorrow when I get a couple of games.

~Josh
Where you using Component or HDMI for the PS3?
post #73 of 185
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Originally Posted by Chris Rein
As I keep reading...more lockups...on a movie?!?!? Ugh. Sure, the 360 locks up at times during a game, but never during a movie, and HD-DVD at that too. I know the 360 runs quiet with the HD-DVD add-on, how does it compare with the PS3 in HD/BD viewing only?

The 360 does not run quiet with the HD-DVD add on. The add on is fairly quietl but the 360 is almost as loud as when playing games. This was unfortunate because I was waiting for the Toshiba A2 but since it is delayed I picked up the add on. The noise level was unacceptable when watching movies so I had to return a great deal from circuit city. The PS3 is said to be very quiet in all the reviews I have read, but I don't know I don't have one yet.

"At the end of the day, as Microsoft learned, you can tout all the power you want, but if you can't keep your system cool--and fairly quiet--you're going to have some serious problems on your hands. What's impressive about this PS3, in fact, is that with all this power under the hood, the system runs as quietly as it does. After running for three hours straight, we found that we could still place a hand over the back of the unit and not get scorched--the system runs pretty warm, but not blazingly hot. While the 360's tendency to overheat has been exaggerated, its cooling fan and DVD drive are comparatively far noisier, sometimes to the point of distraction."

http://reviews.cnet.com/Sony_PlaySt....html?tag=uolst
post #74 of 185
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Originally Posted by beatboy77
As far as movie play goes, I can confidently tell everyone I prefer my BD-P1000. I will know more about game play tomorrow when I get a couple of games.
Josh, if your monitor(s) can do IVT via HDMI then I would set the PS3 to output 1080i60. You should get a better picture.
post #75 of 185
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Originally Posted by beatboy77
IMO the Xbox 360 HD-DVD add-on has a consistently better PQ then the PS3. I almost feel now after playing with this for the better part of 12 Hours that the PS3 is mainly designed for game play and not for movie play. As far as movie play goes, I can confidently tell everyone I prefer my BD-P1000. I will know more about game play tomorrow when I get a couple of games.

~Josh

Your test results EXACTLY confirm what I stated in a thread that had to be deleted a couple of days ago because of nutjobs stating that "I hadn't really done the testing".
post #76 of 185
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Originally Posted by beatboy77
IMO the Xbox 360 HD-DVD add-on has a consistently better PQ then the PS3. I almost feel now after playing with this for the better part of 12 Hours that the PS3 is mainly designed for game play and not for movie play. As far as movie play goes, I can confidently tell everyone I prefer my BD-P1000. I will know more about game play tomorrow when I get a couple of games.

~Josh
Sweet! Hey did you ask your wife for that camera? It be nice if we could get a couple of screenshots of some movies and games!
post #77 of 185
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Originally Posted by whopper
Your test results EXACTLY confirm what I stated in a thread that had to be deleted a couple of days ago because of nutjobs stating that "I hadn't really done the testing".
Did you post any pics of the review? Seems like a simple solution..
post #78 of 185
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Originally Posted by Chris Rein
Freezing on a movie? Uh, not good.

I did about 10 hrs of testing with PS3 earlier this week and DID NOT experience freeze ups. I am thinking that (assuming the unit is getting good ventilation) that he may have a faulty microprocessor in his unit.
post #79 of 185
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Originally Posted by beatboy77
IMO the Xbox 360 HD-DVD add-on has a consistently better PQ then the PS3. I almost feel now after playing with this for the better part of 12 Hours that the PS3 is mainly designed for game play and not for movie play. As far as movie play goes, I can confidently tell everyone I prefer my BD-P1000. I will know more about game play tomorrow when I get a couple of games.

~Josh
This makes me feel better about picking up the Sammy rather than waiting for when I can pick up a PS3. I prefer to get a device that's sole purpose is to do one task because it will undoubtedly do it well. I figured the PS3 would run into many of the problems that people did with the PS2 and DVDs.
post #80 of 185
If you look at the spec for a machine for BD/HD playback frocyber they are calling for a x2 4200 at least on the AMD side so bd playback could be pretty processor intensive, possibly a lot more than a game, and reading with the laser is likely to create a lot of heat also.

With the size of the cooler it is clear that Sony wants to get rid of a lot of heat. I wonder if voltage differences might be an issue. Japan runs at 100 volts, and even though the power system is voltage sensing it is interesting that at the show they did have at least an indication of a possible heat problem. If you look at the graphics and the processor and the laser and the hard drive all of these generate a lot of heat. Of you look at the power rating on the power supply it certainly indicates a lot of power used, and typically that gets converted to heat. It will be interesting to see if more users can relate what they are doing or their environment to these reported problems

John
post #81 of 185
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Originally Posted by Onkyo10
so the PS3 is not yet a real BR player hein? It'st pitty! i am under way to conclude my order! Could you confirm once for all? my real interest is BR player :confused:
Here is a tip, don´t take one guys experience for face value or facts, read more, wait more and see if you can get a chance to test a unit yourself.

From the threads here and elsewhere it´s pretty obvious that some prefer the PS3 over the Samsung, and everyone finds it more silent that the 360. And very few have reported "lock ups" like this guy. Actually this is the first time i read about it outside Kiosks setups.
post #82 of 185
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Originally Posted by whopper
Your test results EXACTLY confirm what I stated in a thread that had to be deleted a couple of days ago because of nutjobs stating that "I hadn't really done the testing".
When you first posted your PS3 impressions, you said PS3's playback stunk and worse than Samsung. Someone posted impressions saying it was better than Samsung and you then said the pioneer blows it out of the water but it is better than Samsung. Now you sing a different tune. So which is it?

Several pro reviews have claimed to see sharpness and detail in the PS3 image when compared to the Samsung. I'm rather keen to believe them until I can verify this myself when I get my PS3.
post #83 of 185
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Originally Posted by beatboy77
IMO the Xbox 360 HD-DVD add-on has a consistently better PQ then the PS3.
You're comparing different movies. If you wish to make cross platform PQ comparisons, you need to watch the same movie on both machines (such as Mission Impossible III).
post #84 of 185
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Originally Posted by Rob Zuber
You're comparing different movies. If you wish to make cross platform PQ comparisons, you need to watch the same movie on both machines (such as Mission Impossible III).
Keep in mind Mission Impossible III is MPEG on Blu-ray and VC1 on HD-DVD, so a Warner movie with VC1 on both will be a better comparison!
post #85 of 185
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Originally Posted by my_pacman
Can you compare 1080i vs 1080p input on the Pearl?
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Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland
Josh, if your monitor(s) can do IVT via HDMI then I would set the PS3 to output 1080i60. You should get a better picture.
Up! ;)

Maybe the Pearl has better IVT than the PS3? (I doubt that PS3 outputs native 1080p)
post #86 of 185
Got mine tonight, but after reading many reports of lock-ups and sub-Samsung BD performance, I've decided to drink the night away, rather than play with the PS3. I'm waiting for more conclusive evidence.
post #87 of 185
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Originally Posted by Burkerg
Got mine tonight, but after reading many reports of lock-ups and sub-Samsung BD performance, I've decided to drink the night away, rather than play with the PS3. I'm waiting for more conclusive evidence.
The only conclusive evidence you'll get is if you unpack your PS3 and played games and movies on it yourself. It cannot get more conclusive than that.


fuad
post #88 of 185
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Originally Posted by DVD_sanchez
Keep in mind Mission Impossible III is MPEG on Blu-ray and VC1 on HD-DVD, so a Warner movie with VC1 on both will be a better comparison!
also you might want to try it in 1080p format too. Ps3 blu-ray and xbox360 hd-dvd support be able to support it now.
post #89 of 185
Notice I said, "more conclusive." I'm just waiting for performance evaluations from more than a handful of owners. I bought this primarily for BD playback, so I'll let those invested in the gaming performance test it first.
post #90 of 185
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Originally Posted by makeusleep
The 360 does not run quiet with the HD-DVD add on. The add on is fairly quietl but the 360 is almost as loud as when playing games. This was unfortunate because I was waiting for the Toshiba A2 but since it is delayed I picked up the add on. The noise level was unacceptable when watching movies so I had to return a great deal from circuit city. The PS3 is said to be very quiet in all the reviews I have read, but I don't know I don't have one yet.

"At the end of the day, as Microsoft learned, you can tout all the power you want, but if you can't keep your system cool--and fairly quiet--you're going to have some serious problems on your hands. What's impressive about this PS3, in fact, is that with all this power under the hood, the system runs as quietly as it does. After running for three hours straight, we found that we could still place a hand over the back of the unit and not get scorched--the system runs pretty warm, but not blazingly hot. While the 360's tendency to overheat has been exaggerated, its cooling fan and DVD drive are comparatively far noisier, sometimes to the point of distraction."

http://reviews.cnet.com/Sony_PlaySt....html?tag=uolst
Not true. The 360 has the same noise as being at the dashboard when playing the HD-DVD add-on. It's when you have a game in is when the thing starts getting noisey. At least on mine. Just use the dashboard noise level as what to expect when watching a HD-DVD moive on it.
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