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post #2761 of 2911
Thanks. It was a process figuring out what the problem and then figuring out the solution. $65 for a new router that supports the technology was a small price to pay, to play!
Best,
jeff
post #2762 of 2911
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Originally Posted by JChin View Post

Hi edannan, on the PS3 try turning off "Deep Color/Colour Output (HDMI)" under Display Settings.

JChin, you are the man!

I just updated my PS3 to version 4.0 and started getting a flickering screen whenever the system was running. The funny thing is that I tried switching the PS3 to another HDMI port on my receiver and it fixed the problem, just not the way I wanted to fix it.

Just hopped on this thread to see if anybody else had similar issues and I saw your suggestion.

Thank you again for your help!
post #2763 of 2911
So Netflix has been giving me problems on my Xbox 360 and Macbook, so I installed it on my PS3. It works there, however the video and audio are way out of sync. Are there any settings on the PS3 that correct this, or is it a netflix issue? Thanks for any help, my patience is over with Netflix and I'm considering cancelling.
post #2764 of 2911
Posting an update to my PS3 and Xbox on the same LAN post. On the night of 1/15/2012 something changed causing my PS3 to show NAT moderate. I've been in touch with netgear regarding the WNR3500L and activision regarding the MW3 server configuration and any changes.

Activision did not address the question of any changes that night. What I'm observing now is that the PS3 will only show NAT open when run in a DMZ with UPnP off on the router. This setup is incompatible with the XBox and forces the XBox to show NAT moderate/strict. I also note that my router is flagging packets from the PS3 as a Denial of Service (DoS) attack (usually Storm) intermittently. on the PS3, I can join multi-player MW3 matches and the lag doesn't seem horrific, but it is noticeable. the bottomline is that the PS3 should work, but currently is not.

So I'm currently running the router with UPnP on and living with the PS3 showing NAT moderate in MW3 (only game I play right now).

Netgear thinks the router might be flakey (yes it's running the latest firmware) and I'm returning it as soon as the replacement arrives (WNDR4000). They also note that the WND3500L is an older model and WNDR4000 is the latest generation hardware.

I pinged Sony about the PS3 today and summarized my long story, how I got here and what I currently think. I suggested it would be useful if they maintained a site like microsoft does regarding routers that are compatible with multiple XBox's/PS3's on the same LAN, read this as routers with a proper UPnP implementation.

So assuming the router hardware is ok, the issue with the PS3. I'll know probably tonight when I install the new router if I still have PS3 NAT moderate that the issue is with the PS3 and/or MW3.

Stay tuned.
post #2765 of 2911
that was quick. sony sent a reply. They did read my email as they mentioned the new router and say contact them again if I have issues with the new one also.

The trouble shooting help, is not useful for the case of multiple gaming consoles on the LAN simultaneously. the bottomline for this configuration is a correct UPnP implementation is needed and one cannot use DMZ or port forwarding/triggering in that case.

Best,
jeff
post #2766 of 2911
Hopefully this is my last post on the PS3, multiple XBox, router setup topic.

I received and configured the Netgear WNDR4000 router, replacing the netgear WNR3500L router:

set static IP's for all game consoles, and reserved the IP addresses.
turned UPnP on. Also set NAT to Open, not Secured.

Fired up MW3 on the PS3 and got NAT moderate. Played a match, popped out to the main menu, then back in and NAT showed Open. Checked the router log and did not see any packets flagged as DoS from the PS3. With the old router, I would always see DoS messages from the PS3.

XBox shows NAT Open always in MW3. My son said there was no lag and he's sensitive to it.

Game play lag seemed like normal (they need to nerf the shotguns, bigtime) lag compensation.

My connections were always 4 bars. I also note that my pings must be good as I always get matched into the first lobby scanned (lowest ping value).

I think this may have solved it (fingers crossed).

Best,
jeff
post #2767 of 2911
Good work and great info. I'm sure many will be helped by your tips. These types of struggles can be so frustrating, especially when dealing with questionable hardware with questionable software. Many thanks!
post #2768 of 2911
Not sure if this is the right place to post this, but its partly a question, partly sharing my recent PS3 issues.

Fat 60GB unit, several years of use.

My Blu-ray drive recently started making a buzzing noise at all times while a disc was being spun, after a few days of this, it stopped, and would no longer take a disc in.

The next day my wife informed me that Netflix wasn't working, all you could get was a black screen that would stay for hours, with the only option was to hard reset the PS3.

After much tinkering, I found that Netflix will start if I hit the eject button while the black screen is up.

Do you think this is because the Blu-ray drive is needing replacement? What would be the best (cheapest) option for me to repair it?

Do you think it could be from my 20 month old jamming something in the disc slot? (I have no reason to believe that he did, but its always a possibility!)

Thanks for any advice, and I hope the Netflix eject button tip helps someone else out someday too.
post #2769 of 2911
Another post on the router setup issue. With the new router Netgear WNDR4000, I started seeing in the log, packets from the PS3 being flagged as a Denial of Service (DoS) attack: STORM. I saw this on the WDR3500L. Searching the netgear support forums for this shows that it's relative common with the netgear routers when using applications that pound on the ports like bit torrent. The results is that the router will throttle the port back essentially blocking it.

The solution given by the cognizanti in those forums is to disable SPI (stateful packet inspection) or DoS and port scanning. You might think this is really bad to do, but NAT is still operative and there are firewalls on each PC running.

I turned off DoS and port scanning. I still get NAT moderate on the PS3, BUT lag is almost non-existant in MW3. I'll need to do more testing, but it was like a background level of lag had been removed. I'll be ignoring the NAT report from the PS3, but will continue to look at the router logs.

Best,
jeff
post #2770 of 2911
Jeff,

What lead you to investigate this problem in the first place? NAT status or lag, maybe both? And how is it you are certain that your lag is caused by your router? Just asking to learn.
post #2771 of 2911
Hi,
It started out as an NAT issue, always seeing NAT Moderate, when with the old router it showed NAT Open always. Then as I dug deeper, I noticed the DoS attacks message pointing at the PS3's IP address. Some of this came about when trying to get multiple game consoles on the same LAN.

If you research multiple game consoles on the LAN, you'll see that the usual recommendations for getting NAT Open cannot be applied. The usual recommendations are:
* put the console in a DMZ. this cannot be used since it applies to only one IP address and would tie up the ports needed for game play to that IP address at the expense of the other console
* use port triggering/forwarding. again this only works for a single console and would tie up the ports for just that console at the expense of the other one.

For multiple game consoles on a LAN, the correct thing to do (and supported and tested by microsoft for the XBox) is to use a correct implementation of UPnP.

When I turned UPnP on and still had issues with only the PS3 (Note I might be having XBox issues, but just can't detect it) I had to keep looking. That's what led me to looking at the router log, etc.

I also was encountering lag, but I attributed that to lag compensation dependent on the lobby. for MW3 game play on the PS3, it now looks like I was being hammered by the router controlling/throttling the packets to/from my PS3, and mis-interpreting game play as a DoS attack.

It needs more testing/game play, but I think it's nearly sorted.

Best,
jeff
post #2772 of 2911
Ok, thanks for that info. I only ask cuz my PS3's always show NAT moderate when I do the connection test. I haven't gamed online in a long time, so I have no idea if anything is being blocked. My router is the DLink DIR-655, which is on MS's approved list. I haven't paid attention to the test results for my XBox's though, so not sure what it reports. Having multiple consoles, I've learned some valuable things from you that I need to implement, starting with static IP addresses. Thanks again.
post #2773 of 2911
More testing has revealed that for MW3, I have to use port triggering (not port forwarding) to get NAT Open. More research shows that this can be setup on some routers for an client, hence can be used for more than one console.

So in addition to the above (UPnP on, NAT open, DoS and port scanning off), set up UDP and TCP port triggering for "any" client, i.e. it's not tied to a specific IP address/client. Activision gives the required ports on their website.

NAT is now Open in MW3. I note though that the PS3, when testing the connection, report UPnP is not available and upstream transfers seemed low on one test.

[edit] UPnP is now reported as available for the PS3 and transfers look normal. Not sure why the first test showed UPnP no available and the upstream transfer was low. I'm satisfied now.

Best,
jeff
post #2774 of 2911
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Originally Posted by tlalotoani View Post

My PS3 from time to time doesn´t load games, just freezes when just has begun to load, at the very beggining (almost two years ago) did it very few times with uncharted 2, no problems with other games like Modern warfare 2, Fifa 10, Heavy Rain, Metal Gear Solid 4 or until recently GT5., the problem was when I bought BATTLEFIELD 3, maybe 20% of the times I load the game it freezes, now GT5 did it once last night, never before did it, Is there a problem with my PS3 or just the Battlefield 3 disc (or software) has some issues?

The problem is maybe solved, the only thing I did was to perform the "fan test", no freezing since then, probably dust acummulation
post #2775 of 2911
I downloaded 90 day trial of music unlimited 90 days ago and immediately canceled the auto renew from the account settings at that time, but not sure what happened that the funds were just added to renew the subscription for the service which I've stopped using. I always hear that Sony rarely offers any refunds added to the wallet, but I'm wondering if my case would be an exception. Thoughts?
post #2776 of 2911
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Originally Posted by CyberdyneMedia View Post

I've scoured the net and forums for answers but most/all of these articles are dated back to 2007. so some major firmware updates have happened to change menus and options.

I've done some extensive testing and i still have NO subwoofer during gameplay. I HAVE sub bass with mp3's on the HDD, video on the HDD, DVDs BDs and even playing clips off of my sony SR12 camera. Just not in game at all, nor on the XMB if i hover over a game, i get NO bass. Age Of Booty is a good test cause the soundtrack is just THUMP THUMP THUMP THUMP. i used to have to turn the bass knob down to -10 and play it really quiet to not rattle the china cabinet. Now it sounds like its playing out of a tin can. Rockband? drums sound like shite.

Now it was working for a long time until a ps3 update, but i can not figure out what one it was. Its been like this for a while, i just havent had the time to sit down and troubleshoot this. with everything else working, not having bass in gameplay wasn't that big of a deal. Now i can't stand it and it needs to be fixed.

I have a Sony DG-910 receiver and the LFE icon is ON. can't figure out how to turn the bloody thing off if thats the problem. or if its possible.

Has anyone else had this problem and figured out a solution?


Thanks.

Tim.

Tim,

I realize it's been a long time since you posted this, but did you ever get your bass back? I ask cuz I've recently experienced the same thing. My sub even falls asleep while playing a game on my PS3. Wasn't this way, but I noticed it after using the new Sony headphones a couple of times. Can't find a setting to get it back. I've re-enabled all sound formats.

My slim is connected by HDMI to a Denon receiver. My HDMI 360 still produces bass, as does my optically connected hdtv. Funny thing, while playing Bulletstorm last week, I had one boss battle where the bass came back strong. But it went away just as quickly as it appeared. So I thought maybe the game was poorly coded, but Madden '12 has the same problem. I have a 5.1 setup, with all speakers set to small and xover set to 150Hz. So, as my other video sources confirm, I should be getting plenty of bass.

Anyone else ever seen this problem, or have any ideas what could be wrong?
post #2777 of 2911
Just a quick follow-up...I played Bulletstorm last night with the Sony Headset, and it sounded fine. So the soundtrack is fine, and the console gets it off the disc fine. Tonight I'll see if it's getting to the HDMI audio output. If not, it's time for some real troubleshooting.
post #2778 of 2911
HELP!!!
I've asked on computer/networking forums, ps3 forums, etc., and nobody has an answer for this:

about a month or so ago I ran a cat5e cable from my WRT320n (stock firmware) to my ps3. It was running OK on the built-in wireless, but I was occasionally having stuttering on some high bitrate mkv files.

Gave it a static IP (outside the dhcp range), put it in the dmz, etc....and sometimes it works GREAT, exactly as it is supposed to, insanely high bitrate 1080p/DTS rips go smoothly. If it gets shut off and turned back on..., it may connect again perfectly, but other times it will just connect at a snails pace, can't stream ANYTHING at all, not even music. It seems to be totally random, like some sort of crapshoot when the ps3 is turned on.

Tried a different cable, tried switching ports on the router. At this point, I'm convinced it has to be the ps3 ethernet port.

Any ideas?????
post #2779 of 2911
wabbit,
Is your PS3 always getting the exact same IP # each time?
post #2780 of 2911
yep; dhcp range is 192.168.1.100 thru 109

ps3 settings are

IP address set to 192.168.1.110
MTU set to auto
UPnP enabled
Proxy server --do not use

If I try "test connection", it will always say it succeeded. It's not ps3mediaserver related (AFAIK) b/c when it acts up, the browser is S-L-O-W to load anything as well.



EDIT:

well, it appears there is no answer. must be the ps3 port. damnit.
post #2781 of 2911
Good Morning!

I am having a very difficult time figuring out why my ps3 d/l speeds are so bad (or at least a lot less than every other device on my setup). Long story short, when the PS3 is connected (wired or wirelessly) through my router I get speeds of 5-8 Mbps. When I go straight to my modem, I get 16Mbps. Does the router somehow limit the d/l speeds? I do not see this degradation on any other connected device. Even a 6 year old laptop pulls 30Mbps connected wirelessly. My 2008 iMac connected over wireless N gets 45-50Mbps.

All of these test were done when the device was the only one actively pulling data.

The same goes for the PS VITA I just picked up (it is down in the 5-6 Mbps range on the connection test).

Any ideas?
post #2782 of 2911
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Originally Posted by jam919 View Post

Good Morning!

I am having a very difficult time figuring out why my ps3 d/l speeds are so bad (or at least a lot less than every other device on my setup). Long story short, when the PS3 is connected (wired or wirelessly) through my router I get speeds of 5-8 Mbps. When I go straight to my modem, I get 16Mbps. Does the router somehow limit the d/l speeds? I do not see this degradation on any other connected device. Even a 6 year old laptop pulls 30Mbps connected wirelessly. My 2008 iMac connected over wireless N gets 45-50Mbps.

All of these test were done when the device was the only one actively pulling data.

The same goes for the PS VITA I just picked up (it is down in the 5-6 Mbps range on the connection test).

Any ideas?

Set a static ip to your ps3 and set your router to give the mist priority to that ip address. This will solve your issue.
post #2783 of 2911
Hi all,

I'm new here. I had read parts of the thread, most recent post really.

Recently, well since I got my PS Vita I have noticed that my PS3 has had difficulty connecting to PSN. I'm not sure whether this is due to the server of PSN being overloaded with the release of the Vita or if it is something else.

Now I have scoured the internet to find solutions, but to date I have had no luck. I have reset my router, reset my modem and I have even unplugged them for a day just see if there is a difference. I have had no luck and now trying to play GT5 is a chore, waiting around for it to get to the homescreen and when I manage to get into a lobby I get disconnected.

I have Virgin Broadband with their router, Netgear WGR614. I have looked at upgrading the firmware of this but I am led to believe that the firmware is locked. Having looked at the Router manager itself there is no where that I can see on there an option to upgrade this.

I have now come to a dead end and requesting help. I ideally don't want to go along the lines of port forwarding unless I really need to. I know that a rollout of doubling broadband speeds is happening in my area come March/April and due to this I am not sure at the moment whether I will be supplied with a new router. I am going to contact Virgin about this but my question is anyone reading this, do you think that I should change my router or do you know a solution to my problem. I apologise if this has been rambled on or if I have missed anything out but it is becoming ridiculous now.

Thanks

Man let in the dark and doesn't know what to do :|

Futhermore...which I forgot to add...I did a connection test via the PS3 and I had an error message saying 'connection to sony entertainment network timed out'.
post #2784 of 2911
My biggest concern is that calibrating using AVSHD709 works best when I set my PS3 to output YPBCR ( whatever that is ) and RGB Limited to my display. And then set my display to YCBCR ( or whatever that is ). Using this signal path, I can get Red, Blue, and Green to pass the DVE color test patterns easily. According to the disc, my colors are practically 100% accurate.

But here's the catch. When I calibrate using this signal path, the the calibration seems to hold for MOVIES but not video games. When I insert a movie, the picture looks right. Flawless to me. But when I insert a video game, the calibration doesn't hold. The black and white levels change drastically, introducting black crush often.

However, as a compromise, I'd have to calibrate using the signal path of PS3 RGB / RGB Limited and then set my Display to RGB as well. Overall, it's a complete RGB path. Here, the calibrations hold for both movies and games equally. But here's the catch. It's almost impossible to get the colors to align properly to the test patterns in DVE. The colors are always a little off. Sigh...
This is my current setting because at least I know how off the colors are in gaming. With the movie perfect calibration, I don't know how off my colors are in the gaming world.

Any advice, insight, hypothesis welcomed. But overall, I'm happy with compromise. The pictures are still passable.
post #2785 of 2911
My PS3 has been working fine for BD playback. When I update the operating system or try to install Amazon, I get thru the download and install processes, but then the screen becomes noise only. The only way to get the video back is to turn the PS3 off and back on. The OS update apparently was successful, but the Amazon registration dialog was never visible, so Amazon didn't finish the install.

I am using a short HDMI cable into the Integra 80.1 processor.
Sorry if this has been discussed already.
post #2786 of 2911
Answer:
My display has a DVI input, which the PS3 doesn't like.
post #2787 of 2911
My display alos uses DVI. I connecto to the PS3 using a DVI to HDMI converter. I was able to update the software on the PS3 to get Amazon Instant Videos. There is an apparent handshake where the screen goes blank then noise but eventually I get to Amazon's Video. Could be an issue with your display managing that handshake.
post #2788 of 2911
So the noise eventually goes away by itself? How long does it take?
post #2789 of 2911
Quote:
Originally Posted by mindless View Post

My PS3 has been working fine for BD playback. When I update the operating system or try to install Amazon, I get thru the download and install processes, but then the screen becomes noise only. The only way to get the video back is to turn the PS3 off and back on. The OS update apparently was successful, but the Amazon registration dialog was never visible, so Amazon didn't finish the install.

I am using a short HDMI cable into the Integra 80.1 processor.
Sorry if this has been discussed already.

Had this problem, replaced cable, no fix.
My TV, a mitsubishi 73" DLP needed a firmware update to TV to handle changes in HDMI.
post #2790 of 2911
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Originally Posted by mindless View Post

So the noise eventually goes away by itself? How long does it take?

Don't remember exactly but about 3-5 secs
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