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post #1231 of 1373
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Originally Posted by fatmanosu View Post

OK my HDMI output stopped working on my PS3. It was working last week.
We had a thunderstorm and lost power. The PS3 was off....The system tells me there is HDMI, but there is a connect issue...

Try unplugging the PS3 for 30 minutes from the AC power.
Also try lowering your video resolution on the PS3 to 480P initially.
If these both fail, try hot plugging the PS3 into the TV while both are turned on AND/OR changing the TV's input away from the PS3/HDMI input and then come back to it. Both of these last two force the TV to initialize a handshake with the PS3. Good luck, I hope something works for you.
post #1232 of 1373
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Originally Posted by Ward216 View Post

Hi Ed,
I'd be really surprised from an engineering aspect to see this feature only available on the new 120GB model...
Ward

OK, color me surprised. I had no luck getting it to work with any of my gear. If I get some free time at work I'd like to hang a probe on pin 13 and see what's happening.
If anyone has the new 120Gig model I'd be interested to know if it works there. I don't have any plans to get one this year, but maybe Q1 of 2010.
-Regards/
post #1233 of 1373
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Originally Posted by hdtv47lg70 View Post

i just bought a 47lg70 ,manufacture date ,04/2009 and i just hooked up a ps3 80gb manufacture date ,12/2008, i also updated the ps3 firmware to the latest via wireless internet. i get the what seems to be the lesser of the issues when i plug it into hdmi 1-3. the ps3 will produce up to 1080i with no issues but as soon as switch it to 1080p, whether the auto setup or the manual custom, i get the snowy effect on the menu screen only.. not a lot of snow just enough to be irritating and no sound issues. this seems only to be on the menu screen. it plays blue ray dvd's with no issue at all so far. i am using a 6ft hdmi cable that i bought from the local cable provider.

NOW here is the biggie. when i switch the input from hdmi 1-3 TO hdmi4, one on the side, the snowy issue clears right up. so there is an issue with those ports. seems that i also read on here that several other ps3 users with various hdtv's were having similar issues on their back ports but the side port works with no issues at all...

what do you guys think?

it seems that the only fix right now for this is using the hdmi port on the side of the tv's?

just to add.. i also added a motorola cable box on ports 1-3 and had zero issues that i could tell. i wish i had a regular bluray player to see if it produced the same issues on port 1-3 that the ps3 did.

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Originally Posted by jwebb1535 View Post

Connected PS3 to Samsung 30" TX R3079WH Model TV - worked fine for last 2 years.

In May, Purchased new LG 1080i DVD Player and HDMI 3-Input Auto/Manual Switch; Connected PS3 and LG DVD using 2 HDMI inputs, with 1 Output going to Samsung TV.

Worked for 2 weeks, now all I get is Black Screen when switching to HDMI Channel on TV. Went back to individual/direct input from PS3 or LG DVD, but same Black Screen.

Switched resolution settings on LG DVD (480/720/1080 i and p, but No Joy); no changes seen to be available on PS3; Samsung has limited Controls, too.

Think it's the HDMI Plug on the back of the TV. Any ideas on what to troubleshoot and/or fix?

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Originally Posted by Ward216 View Post

Hi, first off as you've probably figured out the 1-3 inputs all share the same architecture so it's no surprise that they share the same symptoms. Port 4 is a separate pcb and has it's own eprom and tmds interface. The snow you see is data drop out. From where, I'm not sure. We recently measured the bandwidth of the PS3 at work and discovered the XMB (in 1080p mode) puts out 10 bits per color (R,G,B) for a total of around 30 bits. This is higher than any media (games, movies) that are currently available. Sony calls it DeepColor. This might be the reason you only see this effect at the XMB. My best guess is your rear inputs cant handle the throughput at this higher bandwidth. Normally a device that doesn't support 30 bit color would just throw away (drop) these extra bits so it seems odd this would happen. I'm not aware of any way to reduce the color depth from ~30 bits to 24 in the user settings.
I would check the user forum here for your tv and see if there's a work around. Maybe even a software update.
Regards,



well just to update this.. it seems that it is a confirmed tv issue. i recently acquired a pioneer bdp-51fd and it produces the same snow on hdmi ports 1-3 on 1080p ..1080i is no problem though.. so i am definitely calling lg now... maybe it is just a matter of replacing the board...
post #1234 of 1373
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Originally Posted by fatmanosu View Post

OK my HDMI output stopped working on my PS3. It was working last week.
We had a thunderstorm and lost power. The PS3 was off....The system tells me there is HDMI, but there is a connect issue...
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Try unplugging the PS3 for 30 minutes from the AC power.
Also try lowering your video resolution on the PS3 to 480P initially.
If these both fail, try hot plugging the PS3 into the TV while both are turned on AND/OR changing the TV's input away from the PS3/HDMI input and then come back to it. Both of these last two force the TV to initialize a handshake with the PS3. Good luck, I hope something works for you.

No luck. I am not sure what the issue is. The TV knows it is getting info, but will say low or no signal.
post #1235 of 1373
We have a similar problem: PS3 and brand new Samsung Full HD LCD TV were working fine on HDMI-connection. Last week we had a power shortcut, and now the PS3 and the TV no longer connect by HDMI (none of 3 ports).
But... : * the PS3 works fine on any other television, using HDMI
* any other PS3 works fine on the television, using HDMI

Does anyone has an explanation for this and even better: do you have a solution? Using an other HDMI cable didn't solve it, changing the settings didn't either.

HELP!!!
post #1236 of 1373
Bonzo, all I can say is reset your PS3 display settings by turning it off, then turning it back on and holding power until the PS3 beeps...if that doesn't work, backup and reformat the PS3. Or just use component
post #1237 of 1373
Bonzo66 did you find any fix?
Did you try reformatting?
post #1238 of 1373
I've been using the Acer H233H monitor (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....=1218049006792) for a month now. No problems at all.

Last week I bought an HDMI switcher from monoprice (http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2) so that I can connect my Xbox360 and PS3 into the switcher, and the switcher into the H233H monitor.

Now the video and audio on the PS3 randomly goes out for approximately 3 seconds every once in a while. This occurs in game, while streaming media with PlayOn, and also while sitting idle in the XMB. The game and media continue to play as if nothing is wrong. I've played the xbox for approximately 10 hours and have not had this occur at all.

All HDMI cords work fine, I've swapped everything out. I've held down the power button for 5 seconds while turning on the PS3 to make sure the video was set properly. I've also disconnected the DVI connector to make sure it was not interfering somehow; the video/audio still goes out.

Ideas?
post #1239 of 1373
I have the Slim PS3 with a single HDMI input TV (Sony 960). I bought the PS3 AV component cord package ($40!!!). I get a display but still cannot get the video output under tools on the PS3 to change from HDMI to auto or component. Any ideas? I have done the double beep start switch reset several times.

I got an optical three way switch to run the Tivo or the PS3 into my sound system.

I can run the HDMI input from the PS3 and component from my Tivo but I had hoped to run the other way.
post #1240 of 1373
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Originally Posted by Ennui View Post

I have the Slim PS3 with a single HDMI input TV (Sony 960). I bought the PS3 AV component cord package ($40!!!). I get a display but still cannot get the video output under tools on the PS3 to change from HDMI to auto or component.

Ennui, if you disconnect the HDMI cable from the PS3 & attach the component video (RGB) to your display, then hold the PS3 on button for 2 beeps it should work fine.
If not, then you could attach to tv with both hdmi & component and boot up via HDMI and then change your output to component and then change inputs on the tv and check for picture. Start with 480p video only and THEN switch to a higher resolution once you can see the screen via the component video connection.
- Are you sure you are using the correct cabling for RGB component video?
- if yes, then are you sending 1080p via component?
- if yes, then drop down to 480p over component.
post #1241 of 1373
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Originally Posted by tfoltz View Post

Last week I bought an HDMI switcher from monoprice...so that I can connect my Xbox360 and PS3 into the switcher, and the switcher into the H233H monitor.

Now the video and audio on the PS3 randomly goes out for approximately 3 seconds every once in a while. Ideas?

hi, remember HDMI constantly polls the display device during power-on state. Not just at startup for handshaking. It sounds like the 2 port HDMI switch is interfering occasionally with this process between the PS3 & your display. Customer reviews for that switch don't report any PS3 problems. However, I don't know if you have a new slim model PS3.
Here are three things you could try:
- Swap inputs on the switch (ex: move the PS3 to input 1 and move Xbox to input 2).
- Unplug the Xbox from the switch and see if the PS3 problem persists.
- Drop the resolution down on the PS3 to test for a change in behaviour.
Regards
post #1242 of 1373
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Originally Posted by Ward216 View Post

Ennui, if you disconnect the HDMI cable from the PS3 & attach the component video (RGB) to your display, then hold the PS3 on button for 2 beeps it should work fine.
If not, then you could attach to tv with both hdmi & component and boot up via HDMI and then change your output to component and then change inputs on the tv and check for picture. Start with 480p video only and THEN switch to a higher resolution once you can see the screen via the component video connection.
- Are you sure you are using the correct cabling for RGB component video?
- if yes, then are you sending 1080p via component?
- if yes, then drop down to 480p over component.

Thanks for the response..

My TV is only 1080i. The cord I am using is what I bought from Sony with three video and two audio outputs.

The issue is on the PS3 toolbox, I cannot change the output to component or automatic; it stays on HDMI. Not sure what it takes to make it change. As I said, I reset it repeatedly but was not able to take it off HDMI for video output. (Even though I receive video output through the component cables when the HDMI cable is absent.)
post #1243 of 1373
Ennui, how odd that it wont let you change the video output port to component. I have an original launch model and I can switch to either as I have the horribly overpriced $40 multi cable as well. Does your slim model look like this page from the user manual?
http://manuals.playstation.net/docum...deooutput.html
post #1244 of 1373
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Originally Posted by Ward216 View Post

Ennui, how odd that it wont let you change the video output port to component. I have an original launch model and I can switch to either as I have the horribly overpriced $40 multi cable as well. Does your slim model look like this page from the user manual?
http://manuals.playstation.net/docum...deooutput.html

Thanks for your help...outputs now OK.

I was bypassing the main video settings screen before.

Thanks again.
post #1245 of 1373
WOW...I have been seriously thinking about getting the PS3 in Feb 2010, but from all these problems Im having serious doubts now.

Im sorry, but it seems there are more problems with HDMI then not? I have read countless threads on this forum and others about all electronics messing up with HDMI. This makes me think....dont keep coming out with new tech until what we have works right..Same with every electronic device..

I have a Pioneer VSX-52tx Elite receiver. NO HDMI. I have a projector that does have HDMI Sony VPLaw10..OR...vlpaw10...I get it mixed up so one of them is right..This projector only does 720p/1080i..

IF I decide to get a PS3...HOW can I get the highest resolution out of it with the least amount of troubles? Im just about scared to buy into this tech right now as it seems as stable as my RROD 360 junk.

What you guys think??
post #1246 of 1373
I have 4 PS3's, got them when they first came out, and I've never had a problem with them, Mike.

All are connected to Panny plasma's and Yamaha audio receivers. 2 of them are with HDMI, 1 with DVI and 1 with component.

Comparing the stability of the PS3 to the X-Box is crazy, in my opinion.

There's no comparison at all.
post #1247 of 1373
I have had my ps3 for yrs have a 20gig that I upgraded Hard drive to 250 gig, hooked up to my new panasonic tcp50g10 series and other ps3 hooked up to my samsung 50 inch plasma b650 series and love it picture and sound works just fine, also have a 360 elite that works great, sound and upscales through 1080p through my pioneer elite receiver just fine no hdmi connecting issues every once in a while im also interested in knowing what everyone knows who has the new 120 gb slim ps3 thinks about it.
post #1248 of 1373
I have the HRM-2214F also. I lost the RS-232 control software CD. Does anyone have it and would they upload it to me. Thanks
post #1249 of 1373
I just recently got a 80GB PS3 and hooked it up to my Samsung LN46A860 and I've been having problems getting the PS3 to properly display in 1080p.

I've tried doing the whole HDMI reset thing where I hold the power on the PS3 for 5 seconds until it beeps & everything, and it defaults to 1080p, but when I do, I see the picture flicker every 3-4 seconds, it's unwatchable. I then deselected the 1080p checkbox, leaving 1080i as the highest output, and the video magically stops flickering.

Does anyone know of any issues or why the PS3 doesn't seem to want to display 1080p to my TV, even though it auto detects it as the optimal resolution?

The HDMI cables that I'm using are from one of those deals that I got back in the day where it was like $8 for 3x 6ft HDMI v1.3a cables.

Cable 1 - on 1080p had some random off color pixels & the video flickering
Cable 2 - on 1080p only had video flickering
Cable 3 - on 1080p had some random off color pixels & the video flickering

I'm currently using Cable 2 on 1080i and everything looks great, but I'm just wondering why I can't do 1080p from my PS3 to my TV. I've tried all the ports on the back of my TV already. Anyone run into a similar problem?
post #1250 of 1373
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Originally Posted by klipsch41 View Post

I just recently got a 80GB PS3 and hooked it up to my Samsung LN46A860 and I've been having problems getting the PS3 to properly display in 1080p.

I've tried doing the whole HDMI reset thing where I hold the power on the PS3 for 5 seconds until it beeps & everything, and it defaults to 1080p, but when I do, I see the picture flicker every 3-4 seconds, it's unwatchable. I then deselected the 1080p checkbox, leaving 1080i as the highest output, and the video magically stops flickering.

Does anyone know of any issues or why the PS3 doesn't seem to want to display 1080p to my TV, even though it auto detects it as the optimal resolution?

The HDMI cables that I'm using are from one of those deals that I got back in the day where it was like $8 for 3x 6ft HDMI v1.3a cables.

Cable 1 - on 1080p had some random off color pixels & the video flickering
Cable 2 - on 1080p only had video flickering
Cable 3 - on 1080p had some random off color pixels & the video flickering

I'm currently using Cable 2 on 1080i and everything looks great, but I'm just wondering why I can't do 1080p from my PS3 to my TV. I've tried all the ports on the back of my TV already. Anyone run into a similar problem?

All I know is it seems to be something with HDMI and this new tech that wasnt fully tested before making its way to the consumer. Seems to happen all too often.

Im going to be getting a PS3 and a new tv in about 4 months. If I have these issues, I will return everything and forget it. Its just not worth the headaches.
post #1251 of 1373
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Originally Posted by klipsch41 View Post

I just recently got a 80GB PS3 and hooked it up to my Samsung LN46A860 and I've been having problems getting the PS3 to properly display in 1080p...
Does anyone know of any issues or why the PS3 doesn't seem to want to display 1080p to my TV, even though it auto detects it as the optimal resolution?

Hi, and yes there are several potential reasons why you have what appears to be a bandwidth related failure. Try these two things:
1) Use another HDMI input on the TV. Usually the side located port will work even when the rear 1x3 grouping fails.
2) Order a new cable like this one below from a known good vendor.
http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2
More than likely one of these two suggestions will work for you.
Regards.
post #1252 of 1373
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Originally Posted by hdtv47lg70 View Post

...as soon as switch it to 1080p, whether the auto setup or the manual custom, i get the snowy effect on the menu screen only.. not a lot of snow just enough to be irritating and no sound issues.
this seems only to be on the menu screen. it plays blue ray dvd's with no issue at all so far.
NOW here is the biggie. when i switch the input from hdmi 1-3 TO hdmi4, one on the side, the snowy issue clears right up. so there is an issue with those ports. seems that i also read on here that several other ps3 users with various hdtv's were having similar issues on their back ports but the side port just to add..
i also added a motorola cable box on ports 1-3 and had zero issues that i could tell. i wish i had a regular bluray player to see if it produced the same issues on port 1-3 that the ps3 did.

I just realized I forgot to mention that you SHOULD disable 10 bit color mode (Deep Color) via the XMB menu by disabling the
SETTINGS / DISPLAY SETTINGS / RGB Full Range (HDMI)
option. This should solve the snow issue that exists only during the XMB and not during BD movies.
post #1253 of 1373
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Originally Posted by Ward216 View Post

I just realized I forgot to mention that you SHOULD disable 10 bit color mode (Deep Color) via the XMB menu by disabling the
SETTINGS / DISPLAY SETTINGS / RGB Full Range (HDMI)
option. This should solve the snow issue that exists only during the XMB and not during BD movies.

Why does there seem to be a 1000 different things you have to do on the PS3 to get things working with HDMI or anything for that matter? I swear I read more topics about ....hold this in till it beeps and go here and change this..OR go there and change that...Just crazy.
post #1254 of 1373
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Originally Posted by mikieson View Post

Why does there seem to be a 1000 different things you have to do on the PS3 to get things working with HDMI...

lol, you don't have to do any of these things if it works fine out of the box. Mine works fine with several different HDTV's and a projector. But I spent a lot of time researching my purchases. Most consumers don't think further ahead than how to get the big new tv home. As a matter of...
Fact: most HDTV owners (ie: more than 50%) think they are watching HD material when they only have a standard def DVD player hooked up to their new HDTV. Three years ago most owners thought they were watching high def television with their standard def cable box hooked to their new hdtv. Most of these people were less than impressed with the picture.
Well, at least they weren't blind even if they were ignorant.
post #1255 of 1373
Hi,

I have an Onkyo 605, PS3 Slim, Samsun LN-4071T and using the Monster 1080p from the PS3 to the receiver.

My old Samsung BD-1500 didn't have any issues with the resolution set to 1080p as my PS3 slim does.

Frustrating...
post #1256 of 1373
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Originally Posted by Ward216 View Post

Hi, and yes there are several potential reasons why you have what appears to be a bandwidth related failure. Try these two things:
1) Use another HDMI input on the TV. Usually the side located port will work even when the rear 1x3 grouping fails.
2) Order a new cable like this one below from a known good vendor.
http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2
More than likely one of these two suggestions will work for you.
Regards.

Tried the side port, seems to work. Any reason why the THREE HDMI ports on the back of the TV give this odd flickering, yet the side port (aka the one you'd like to not use because it sticks out the side) works? You'd figure that on a "higher" end TV like the Samsung LN46A860, that the three rear ports would work.
post #1257 of 1373
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Originally Posted by klipsch41 View Post

Tried the side port, seems to work. Any reason why the THREE HDMI ports on the back of the TV give this odd flickering, yet the side port (aka the one you'd like to not use because it sticks out the side) works? You'd figure that on a "higher" end TV like the Samsung LN46A860, that the three rear ports would work.

I brought the Samsung FPT5084 ~2yrs ago.

I brought the PS3 last XMAS. PS3 at 1080P@60Hz on the side HDMI 3 port caused flicker. 1080P@24Hz on BluRay was OK, 1080i or below were OK. Same flicker problem with different cables. No flicker if connected to the rear HDMI 1 & 2 ports, tried with all the cables.

Recently brought a laptop with HDMI output. The same flicker problem if connected to the side HDMI 3 port. Same flicker problem on HDMI 1 but not as bad. No flicker if drop the refresh rate to 30Hz and 24Hz. So the laptop is connected to HDMI 2 (the only stable port) for media streaming.

All HDMI ports work with Cable and Satellite boxes because they only output 1080i which has less data on the HDMI link.

I think earlier 1080P TVs were not fully tested at 1080P due to lack of 1080P devices. I believe the PS3, laptop, and all my HDMI cables are OK, and the flicker is from the TV. I don’t have a solution. The good thing is that both PS3 and laptop can work on the 5084 but must be port specific.
post #1258 of 1373
I will settle this crap in the store before even buying anything. I will demand to hook up a PS3 slim to my LCD 1080p tv of choice before buying. If they want my business they will either cooperate or be without my money.

Really this mess is uncalled for. Dont keep making things that dont work. THIS goes for Microsoft and their junk 360 as well. QUIT MAKING JUNK PEOPLE!!
post #1259 of 1373
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Originally Posted by klipsch41 View Post

Tried the side port, seems to work. Any reason why the THREE HDMI ports on the back of the TV give this odd flickering, yet the side port ... You'd figure that on a "higher" end TV like the Samsung LN46A860, that the three rear ports would work.

-Well, Samsung probably didn't make the HDMIx3 interface or the x1 either. The x3 ports all share the same pcb architecture so usually all react the same way. The side port could have more compatible IC parts or it could be as wacky as factoring in the long cable that connects the side port to the controller board affects the signals in such a way as to make it work more reliably.
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Originally Posted by klipsch41 View Post

You'd figure that on a "higher" end TV like the Samsung LN46A860, that the three rear ports would work.

Nah, not any more. When I see the same issue on a $70K tv I realized that price doesn't matter any more for compatiblity.
I'd still get a new cable from monoprice 'tho. Always good to have a spare or two.

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Originally Posted by robkwan View Post

I think earlier 1080P TVs were not fully tested at 1080P due to lack of 1080P devices.

True, the tools and specs were somewhat limited early on. Early adopters always take the highest risk and pay the most for the right to do so. Sadly, DisplayPort shares some of the same problems as HDMI. On the other hand, DisplayPort doesn't charge mfg's a $10K license fee to use the DisplayPort connector and trademarked name the way HDMI does. It also includes backwards compatiblity with HDMI sources and displays and may encroach on HDMI even more so over the next 2 years. With the market in a down turn, more competition for your spending dollar, and looming Democrat sponsored legislation designed to penalize market players we may see a shift away from HDMI in favor of the slightly less expensive DisplayPort tech.
post #1260 of 1373
Well, a solution that worked for me anyway.

Connect both component and HDMI cables to the PS3 at the same time.

Turn on the TV first and make sure you choose the component input.

If using an AVR turn it on next and choose the component input.

Now turn on the PS3. It should come up just fine using the component cables.

It may come up saying its found an HDMI cable. If so, follow the prompts and choose custom. When you are ready to test the resolutions use the "right" button on the controller, not the up, down, or left, but the "right" button. Don't use the button options on the screen. Use the "right" button.

If it doesn't come up saying its found an HDMI cable then go to the next step below.

Go into the PS3 display settings and choose HDMI. Follow the prompts to configure to the resolution your TV will output. Use the "right" button in custom as described above.

Remember you'll need to choose the correct inputs on your TV and AVR for HDMI or you'll have a blank screen after choosing HDMI.

Sometimes you need to do the steps a couple of times until it works correctly.

Good luck. This works on my Panny 58V10 TV and Yamaha RX-V863 AVR.
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