JVC DLA-RS1 questions answered! - Page 9

There would be no way to "implement" HDMI 1.3 on a 1.2 device without at the very least changing the HDMI transceivers.




Just a slight correction Mark, 1080i to 1080p is de-interlaced and not up-converted.

That is a bit sad actually, not that it bothers me too much.

For me this is a projector that I will live with for a long time (at least 5 years!)
That is a long time (Will be my 7th projector in 8 years!).

I got a second confirmation on that as well. Bottom line is not on this model.

I though the day had finally come when I could keep one for 5 years. The rate of progess has slowed but it is still moving at a fast pace. I am going to buy this projector and enjoy it. My next model will be able to display 2:35 native stuff without a big clumsy lens. The price and performance on this projector is so fantastic that I can not complain about any of the features it offers. Seven projectors in 8 years? Who are you kidding, the day that you will keep a projector for 5 years will never come.

Have you contacted William Phelps yet?

I'm chiming in as another "G-series" upgrader. I have had my Phelps-optimized G11/Panamorph combo for about 6 years and this is the first of the "reasonably priced" 1080p projectors to meet my installation requirements of having at least a 2.8x throw. Even at this throw, the room is long enought to require a 10' wide screen, which in my case is a Grayhawk. I've been getting some chuckles out of reading how this projector will be "unusable" at such large screen sizes without a high gain screen - I may indeed change at some point, but I know the RS1 is going to be a great improvement over what I have. And I haven't been unhappy with brightness (only watch with no lights though), but am looking forward to the vastly improved contrast, quieter operation, and all the other niceties...

Jay

Hopefully we won't need wm's service on the RS1 - but if there are shading issues (my only concern), it's a good warm fuzzy feeling to know he's there!

Re: RS1:
Well ...I guess that's it for a while as far as obtaining any new info or having any more eye-witness reports turn up. That is until CES. That will be the next big event. Hopefully the JVC team will have a more finalized model on display. Maybe even a production line unit. Anyway - time to go into a holding pattern. That is unless Tom or Lon feed us some more info in the mean time (please keep us informed!)

Jay,
I also have a 10' wide screen with approximately the same gain as the GrayHawk (0.95 gain Screen Research CP2). I am on the pre-order list for the RS1. Most individuals on this Forum will state that the RS1 will have inadequate light output for this screen. With lamp aging, it is true that SMPTE requirements will not be met, however, I disagree that the image will seem dim. I have been using relatively low light output projectors that are if anything less bright than the RS1. The very high contrast of the RS1 should make it seem brighter than my previous projectors, and in addition, the lack of a DI should also help with the apparent brightness of the RS1 in all but the brightest scenes. By my calculations we should get somewhere around 12 ft-lamberts with a fresh lamp. This will in all likelihood drop to 6-8 ft-lamberts within a few hundred hours of time on the lamp. In a dark room, this is still very watchable. I suspect that this is as bright as the majority of setups used by AVS members. After all, most single chip DLP projectors have significantly lower light output than the RS1.

Scott,

I totally agree - almost jumped in to respond to your first post but I wasn't sure if I wanted to get in the middle of the brightness debate. I'm glad you are going to be trying it out!

Jay

Generally speaking there are other benefits to a gray screen. For instance the Firehawk is very good at rejecting ambient light and reflections from the walls and ceiling. In my case I have total light control from outside light but the room does give off quite a bit of reflections back to the screen. It is my understanding that the Firehawk is helpful in these cases.

Did we get a definitive answer on what type of color management system the RS1 will have? Will it enable us to set true colors according to Rec 709 like the Sharp/Yamaha allow? Or will it be more like the Ruby/Pearl where you cannot get the "real" control necessary. For instance Greg mentions in his Pearl review that the pj lacks individual controls for the brightness and some other value (saturation maybe?) which prevents dialing these settings in properly.

JVC - if you are listening this type of color management system is critical for obtaining proper color- please make sure we have the controls to dial things in. Thanks.

I saw something that said JVC confirmed there would be parameters in the menus that enable us to shift r/g/b separately by 1 pixel increments. That is great.

However I was wondering if these controls will enable us to shift it different amounts and only for specific regions of the display. For instance, say the top right is off by a pixel but the center is fine. If the entire grid has to shift by a pixel then that would defeat the purpose of adjusting it, because now the center would be off by a pixel...

I've seen U-571 (those exact same scenes) on many different projectors and displays. Seems to be used a lot for testing. I thought the picture was slightly warm (which I prefer). And which was confirmed when I saw the internal gray scale test image that the RS1 displayed. I noticed no goldish tint at all.

I was also impressed by the total lack of VB (vertical banding) in the underwater (greenish) scenes. Very clean and smooth.

Lastly - this was the first time the long-shot of the submarine sitting on top of the water really looked like a model! Took me right out of the movie for a second. My friend Edward commented on this too. Geeeeze. Maybe projectors have gone too far w/ their increased clarity and resolution!

I also noticed this too, and wondered how this scene looked on your HD2K.

anyone had the chance to ask if 1-1 pixel mapping with no cropping is available from PC. I would really like to use the PJ for Browsing and other data apps.
Also having 1-1 pixel mapping allow our video processor to have full control over the 1080 panel..... Tom any input??

Best Judas ever.

I don't get it ?

[quote=Mark Petersen]I haven't watched U-571 often but I have the HD-DVD so I'll take a look. I find it hard to watch U-571 after watching a truly great submarine movie like Das Boot. It also doesn't help that it has Harvey Keitel in it who I used to know.. but I digress At any rate I'll take a look again soon, but I have to wait until my VP is fixed [END QUOTE]


U-571 is pretty cheezy. Especially when compared to Das Boot. Which I believe (IMHO) to be the greatest submarine movie ever made. Unfortunately, while the U-571 DVD (and HD-DVD) are reference quality (visually and audibly) - Das Boot leaves much to be desired. Maybe it will be re-mastered on HD-DVD someday.

[quote=Mark Peterson]
But it did seem warmer than D65 to you? I find it very difficult to draw conclusions when two displays are side by side and one is noticeably off (the Sharp in this case). By itself, the HD10K looked absolutely perfect as far as color goes and I would have thought that if JVC could get D65 dead on with the HD10K that they would do the same with the RS1. I also looked carefully at the fleshtones in the underwater scenes and it looked accurate to me.[END QUOTE]

Maybe slightly warmer than D65. Grayscale had a little red push going on at the very brightest end of the scale - but the fleshtones looked good. Hard to say. Would love to see it again w/ a fresh pair of eyes. Gut feeling tells me it could have looked even better w/ an accurate calibration. Which brings up:

Yes - that HD10K was a sight to behold. Colors were stunning. Grayscale was impeccable. Plenty sharp. Deeper blacks - and it would have been perfection. At least for me. Makes you wonder how much better the Phelped MF1 would be (reviewed by Bill Cushman this month in Widescreen Review) Hey - if the RS1 wasn't on the horizon - I might be taking out a second mortgage soon. (Although my wife might have something to say about that)

He played Judas in "The Last Temptation of Christ".

Gary

Beat me to it. Its a Scorsese flick

Why does this have to be the case. Is this inherit with LCoS and SXRD technologies (Ruby and Pearl are the same way too). So what does this mean when it comes to calibration? I assume like others before it the RS1 will be a bit oversaturated and we can only use some various tricks to minimize this? Why fix the primaries?

Regarding the possible 2.35:1 CH vertical stretch. Will there be the ability to not only stretch but to horizontally squeeze for 1.85:, 1.75:1, and 1.33:1 with a CH setup. I hate having to move the lens out of the way. Plus this will save me from having to buy an external scaler for my HD DVDs. I still use my HTPC + theatertek for SD DVD.

I agree.

I spent 6 hours with a Sony Qualia 004 at a fellow AVSer's HT this last weekend. The PQ was fantastic. His calibrator was present as well (also an AVSer). I was surprised to hear that they were only getting slightly more than 7 ftL off the 133" screen!