Optoma HD70 vs. Mits. HD1000 - Page 6

I generally thought the Mits' pictures looked better than the HD70's in Art's review. The HD70 fits my situation and I think I have adjusted it to do a pretty good job. I like the 2 year parts and labor warranty. I like most everything about the HD70 except the black level. But I think I want actual black and I don't think a Digital PJ will do that for me.

I hope I'm wrong.
I'd rather have a 720P w/actual blacks than a 1080P w/dark-gray blacks. But I really do like the ease, flexibility, adjustability, and mechanical silence of this PJ. We just watched "Back To The Future" tonight and it was great. The limitations of the DVD were more evident than the limitations of the PJ.

Two more BTTF episodes to go. I like it.

Well other then the Gandoff pic, I actually like the HD70 better. Maybe I want to like it better, but since I still don't have it yet, I could get the Mit. But anyway, while I was impressed with the sharpness of the Mit, the other pic's seemed a little cold or digital to me. The hd70 seemed a touch warm and more natural. Now that is just my opinion....

And I totally agree with you on placement issue. I'm barely going to make the HD70 work, with even more lens offset, don't think I could make the mit work without major renovations to my room.

I agree: The HD70 is better!

Well, for my purposes the HD70 works. I could not have any more offset than I've got with the HD70. At all!
The HD70 in combo with the Bravo D1 is a great combination. I have no buyer's remorse. When we got our Infocus X1 (July 2003) I remember all the threads questioning its Videophile status. It always happens.
I do the best with what I've got and it seems to work out.

How many people here have actually given enough time to both projectors to REALLY say which one is better?

Excellent question.

I tend to agree. I printed the rebate a while back and I also saved a pdf of the rebate as well. Based on this rebate, my purchase qualifies. Had it not been for reading about it on the forum I would have never known the rebate was "over".

The requirements are: Purchase a HD1000U between October 1, 2006 and December 31, 2006 from an authorized dealer which I have. Fill out and mail in the form, I will. Include the UPC bar code, will do.

Now, I am not sure if I will actually be getting the rebate. Will I be mad if I don't, not really. I still got a great projector for a great price. I personally have never seen or noticed a rebate retraction like this before and had I not been following the forums I would have never known about it. I am going to mail in the rebate with all the documents and see what happens.

A question

This has been addressed a bit, but didn't seem to get picked up.

the HD70 does do 1080p while the HD1000U only does 720p. How big of a factor should this be in the choice between the two?

A friend of mine is basically saying that it should be a make or break decision if it does 1080p or not, as it will make a big different in video quality of future programming. My main concern, though, is that i can get a HD1000 for 900w/lamp and am unsure if i can do the same for the HD70.

The HD70 does NOT output 1080p. It will accept a 1080p signal just fine, but what you are seeing projected is a downscaled 720p image. Same story with the HD1000.

The DMD chips in each one is 1280 x 720. It's physically impossible for them to display 1080p. And it would cost 3x more if they did.

Not sure what "does do 1080p" means, you mean take 1080p source and scale it to 720p? By that time you would want a PJ capable of displaying 1080p to match your sources capability.

Also, might anybody be able to comment on how the HD1000 handles light in a room? Can you watch a movie in the daytime with only the blinds drawn with little hassle? What about with the lights on?


thanks for the clarification

The rebate is still available from pricegrabber with the dates 10/01/06 - 12/31/06. I don't think there is any question that the rebate for the free lamp coupon is still valid. That should make the decision easier for some to get the HD1000u. I guess I can't post the link yet because I'm a newb, but just go to pricegrabber and search for hd1000u and you'll see it.

With the HD100U I can watch a movie or a game with my lights on. I have the projector in low lamp mode but there are various gamma settings. I have a 106" screen and watching the game via HD from CBS looks like a huge plasma!!

I was told by an authorized dealer that Mitsubishi is actually keeping track of all serial numbers of units sold after 10/31, and won't honor the free bulb on those units.

I know you will have the urge to argue that the date on the rebate says so and try to fight it. But before you do that, read the last line of the rebate.

I concur. I have mine in low lamp mode and is plenty visible in moderate lighting. It has the capability to ramp up much brighter if I need it to.

Thank you both! You just cost me 1000 dollar. Not sure if i hate you or love you.

Actually the rebate changed to 11/20/06 midstream (not 10/31/06) on 11/18/06 when the MSRP dropped to $995 a few days prior to that (they literally alter the PDF overnight). They will piss off some people who downloaded the original PDF that said 12/31/06. Serial number won't help Mits as it may reflect build date much earlier than 10/31/06. Invoice/receipt dates are all Mits can go on which has the revised deadline of 11/20/06. Mits will bank on the last line on the rebate that said they can change or retract the offer anytime. We will argue otherwise. It's up to Mits to decide if it's worth the bad PR to decline these rebates.

I hope you guys get in under the wire on the free lamp. But, Mits can not be responsible for what pricegrabber or any other outfit puts up on their site.

It is pretty obvious what Mits intended. Drop the price and get rid of the free lamp and from all I have read that happened on 11/20. I think the test at Mits will be the price on the invoice. If it is $995 no lamp.

It will be a pretty hard case to argue when the form is clear they can change the deal at any time. May not appear right but they can hang their hat on it.

I agree, but the average person who doesn't read or follow the forums would have no clue. I think those folks will be pretty upset when they unknowingly send in their UPC, and other papers, and then get no rebate. My authorized dealer did not even inform me when I ordered, that.... by the way you realize there is no longer a rebate on these right? I plan on sending mine in because as far as the rebate that I have in my hands goes, I qualify. BUT, I personally would not be upset if they decline it because at sub $900 I think this projector is an amazing deal right now...Their intentions were obviously good but this might blow up in their faces PR wise.

Got my Mits HD1000U last night. Hooked it up though VGA, looks alright. Need to order a HDMI cable.

Does anyone know of either, a setup guide for this projector or a generic setup guide for DLP projectors? Or should I just leave everything to AUTO?

Jeremie

I am torn between the two projectors. Here are my room dimensions:
Front Wall: 7 1/2 ft high x 20 ft wide (wall angles up to 10 ft due to roofline)
Rear Wall: 10 ft high - 20 ft wide with double doors at the back
Side Walls - 7 1/2 ft high with 2 columns on each side x 20 ft long
Projector would likely hang down and be 7 ft or so (can make it lower if necessary) from the floor (3 ft from ceiling)

So basically I have a ~400 sf room to work with that has component prewiring in the ceiling for a Projector at 13 1/2 ft from the front wall. I am going to have 4 Berkline media recliners delivered today and next need to figure out what to buy for a Projector (likely will build a screen)

Up until now I have not read much about projectors since I never had the space. Ideally I would like to get the largest picture I can out of the space available. However, I do plan on putting my audio equipment below the screen so that will be a factor likely in the size of the screen.

Can anyone help with which projector is better for my room setup? Recommendations for screen size?

Just got mine too. I don't think there is a setup guide, this is a very new projector. We are treading on undiscovered territory, we are pioneers.

If anyone can pm me a good place to purchase this pj for the great deals you guys have been getting, I will pull the trigger right now :0)!

Also, I own an HD70, just wondering what it means as to when the HD1000 will not accept a 1080p signal or whats going on with that.

I need a slightly brighter pj with better blacks, and I think I found it :0).

My HD1000 accepts 1080p just fine.

Officially ordering!

Few questions Im not clear on...

Does either one or both have sealed optics
Does the Mits accept 1080p from a pc i.e. @ 60hz

So does that mean the manual is wrong? It only says 1080i.

Yes I believe it is wrong. I've seen a few people say it accepts 1080p but I think they all been using players of some type. I wanna know if pc 1080p with 60hz works, less hassle if it does.

Why is everyone so batty over 1080P? The HD1000 is a 720P projector. It's just going to scale 1080P down to 720P anyway. Feeding this projector the same source 1080P is going to result in a non-existant difference in image quality as opposed to just sending it 720P from the start. The built in on the fly video scaler isn't going to be able to add quality by going from 1080. No scaling at all will produce the best result.

I'm seriously considering the HD1000U to replace my X1. Can someone PM me a good place to get it, as well as how much an X1 with ~900 hours on the bulb and a 100" pull-down screen might go for locally?