Optoma HD70 vs. Mits. HD1000 - Page 3

One row, I guess I could mount any way but would prefer ceiling. Does that mean I have to invert it...I was just planning to do a homemade mount.

In regards to the Mits possibly being too bright, Art recommends a gray screen. This not only helps on black levels but cuts down on some slight light leakage too.

I think? Art uses the Firehawk which is a light gray. I can't afford that one but am looking at one similar.

Kind of weird and yet cool that I paid about $1300 for my Panny 300u back in early 2003. Nice pj for sure...for the price and all...but NOTHING close to what the screenshots of the Mits and Optoma are giving us. And for $1K. Now that's progress!

Yes, mounting screw are on the bottom of the projector so you would invert it. Plus don't forget the lens offset. This means is you put the PJ on a table the image is actually higher then the table. So when you invert the PJ for ceiling mount, now the image is lower then the PJ.

The HD70 is listed as having 33% offset, tho in real life some are finding it closer to 28% offset.

Does anyone have experience with the Mitsubishi displaying 24hz, 48hz, or 72hz from, say, an upconverting DVD player like the Bravo D1 or one of the Oppos?

And I do mean displaying. The HD70 will accept 72hz but doesn't display at that rate (still does some strange pulldown on it, and no audible change in color wheel speed from 60hz) but @ 48hz 3:2 pulldown is eliminated and one can hear the color wheel change speed from 60hz.

bigredmachine878, did you get an answer?

I have the same setup as you, 92" screen, in the basement with no windows and complete light control. I was ready to pull the trigger on the Hd70, the noticed the Mits price drop. If the Mits is an overall better projector I will go with that, if they will produce the same picture based on my room conditions, I will go with the Hd70 because of the 2 year warrenty.

Any suggestions?

Jeremie

Bad news, potentially. The Mitsubishi's data sheet,

http://www.mitsubishi-presentations....hi_hd1000u.pdf

indicates that it doesn't support/accept either 1080p or multiples of 24hz. (HD70 does both)

Would be great if someone could confirm...

I'm not sure what the big deal about accepting 1080p is? Most people today buy DVD players that upconvert better than their projectors. There is no reason to think that an HD-DVD/Bluray player won't downconvert better than a projector as well.

24hz multiples is much more important to me than 1080p acceptance.

Well, I bit on Spinitar. $928 for a Mitsubishi HD1000U is too good to pass up, but I complained about CA tax, and they dropped to $900 even(Lorena, really nice). They said they drop ship them straight from Mitsubishi. I figure if I have any problems, I can go complain at their local office (San Diego).

Many sites now carry an updated rebate form that says that the free bulb is only valid for purchases through 11/20 - TODAY!! So, if you want to take a chance, you've got 40 min's (They're PST, and close at 5PM).

I'm coming from an Epson PowerLite 600P LCD that I bought years ago. I've actually been quite happy w/ it for video games (and don't mind all the shortcomings compared to modern projectors). But in my research it was clear it was either a HD70 or HD1000U for price/performance when the Mitsubishi was $1500. At $900+CA Tax for this WITH a free bulb - hallelujah!

I'm a new member, but figured I'd register since all good info I've received on many topics has been from this site. I've seen something about not posting too much price information. Sorry if this is any violation of that. Just thought I'd try to pass on the info as quick as possible.

I *hope* I don't have too many prob's setting up Wii to work w/ projector.

Thanks for the plug, I bit too!

I also spoke with Lorena, who sold it for the same price. If the free bulb works too, this would be a phenominal price! Even without it it's an excellent price. I hope I am happy with my jump into the HD projection world!

-Josh

I got one too. I'm not sure I should post the price though. It was quite a bit less than everyone that has posted so far. I actually sent an email yesterday for a price quote and Lorena honored it. Almost to good to be true. I called at 4:55PST and talked with Lorena and ordered it. She assured me that the invoice will say 11/20/2006 on it. I was almost going to get either the Panny AX-100U or the Epson 400 from Costco but this deal was just to good to pass up. I should have it in my hands by Friday. I'm going to a local Wilsonart distrubuter tomorrow and pick up a 5X8 sheet of fashion gray.

Hmmmmm,

Let me quess, $860

Yeah I havent gotten a straight answer yet. Nobody has told me why the hd70 screenshot looks so inferior and if it can look as good as the mits. And whats the deal with 24hz?

Hmmm.... Let me guess, you got the same quote.

The straight answer is do not put too much emphasis on screen shots. They are fun to look at but certainly not a basis for making a decision for or against a particular projector.

I heard a few different reason, (bad screenshots, bulb warming up, bad calibration, etc.) and I just wanted to know if it was from those reasons or it was that big of a difference from the HD1000

I just pulled the trigger as well. What the heck. I was trying to get a quote for a better price like some of you - but they must have been all busy with YOU all.... had to order for the regular price. Figured that the more I think about this purchase the more likely it won't happen or that I'll wind up on some backorder list... Plus next week something new and amazing will come out so...

I am going to assume that the date of the 20th is the 20th. Period. My printed receipt shows the 20th.

Whoooo HOOO!

After shopping pj's for about 3 months, I just bought the 1000U too. Given this week's price drop and the end of the rebate, it seems to me that the 20th might have been THE day to buy it. OTOH, given the end of the rebate, you have to wonder whats going to happen to the price in the next few weeks. The guy who took my order mentioned that their cost had just gone down "significantly". Price wars are great!

Now for the next question - what screen to go with it???

i suppose low gain screen like light gray screen would be nice

Why is it important to have multiples of 24hz? What does that do? Reduce flicker?

nice to see some people joining in, I ordered one today also, where are you guys getitng the new rebate form?

I bought mine today too. Hopefully the new rebate works. Heres the link.

http://www.mitsubishi-presentations....ilInRebate.pdf

This has kind of turned into the Mitsubishi 1000 thread.

Well it would appear that any reason to buy the HD70 has just gone down the toilet.

Maybe - maybe not. I'd sure like to read the review of a side-by-side.

Although, I am very happy with our HD70. Not at all a poopy PQ. Quite good, almost excellent! Except for what I suppose is the achilles heel of all Digital PJs: Black level. (I haven't seen what I would call "Great" black level on any Dig. PJ) I wonder if a very expensive digital projector can do black blacks or is it just a limit of Digital projection? I realize that projecting black light is tough.

I'd rather have a 720P PJ that could do excellent black levels than a 1080P that does black levels as I currently see them.

As I understand the mystery of the DMD chip in DLPs, the mirror tilts in such a way as to not reflect any light for a 'black' pixel - so I wonder why it doesn't work as well as we'd hope Any insight?

Guys just wanted to share my current thoughts. I know we're in the middle of a migration away from the HD70 towards the HD1000u, but I'm seriously considering a totally different direction all of a sudden. B&H has a black friday deal on the Z4. Depending on how you value the free lamp and 92" draper luma screen (that any good, btw? I'd use it in a second location) the net price is shockingly cheap for what was a top tier projector 2 months ago.

I'm a DLP fan, hate SDE, sit 1.5-1.7 from an XGA screen now. I know SDE will be more of an issue, but I'm trusting the extra 64% pixel increase should render it less of an issue from 1.7.

I feel this PJ is in another quality category of these two bargain units. It just happens to have entered their price category. Super easy to set up (huge zoom, 2-way lens shift) tons of inputs and pretty much the sharpest 720p picture of anything 'cept the Z5 (but it's half the price if you count the lamp and screen to be $380). I think dynamic iris (vs the fake and to-be-avoided AI) will bring the contrast/blacks to a comparable level - at least with the HD1000u (since it's so bright).

Maybe I should start a thread here, but I know there must be dozens between these 2 in the same price segment who might also consider the Z4 - I'd like your views. Thanks.
Alex

p.s. check Great Found Deals for the link, or FW.