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HP Pavillion Slimline Media Center PCs

post #1 of 24
Thread Starter 
HP has two slimline media center PCs, one based around Intel Architecture and the other around AMD. The units have a single half height PCI slot, and are about 1/3 the size of regular PCs.

This thread is to discuss the relative merit or demerits of these machines as Home Theater PC devices. In particular; how good are they as alternatives to dedicated media devices such as the TVIX 5000?
post #2 of 24
im interested in these too. I saw on HPs website you can configure it up pretty nicely. Two concerns where the integrated video and no HD tuner. I generally just watch movies and TV so the video card should be ok. They have a TV tuner option - not sure what kind it is? im pretty sure its not a HD tuner. Are there any HD tuners that are half height PCI and work with MCE?

I saw one at costco - i liked it, small and quiet.
post #3 of 24
Thread Starter 
This is the unit that almost everybody sells for almost the same price; $629.

Pavilion Slimline Media Center s7620n; Intel® Core(tm) Solo Processor T1350A (1.86GHz); 1GB DDR2-533 RAM; 250GB 7,200RPM Serial ATA Hard Drive; LightScribe 8x SuperMulti Double Layer DVD±R/RW Drive; 9-in-1 Memory Card Reader; 56K Modem; 10/100 Fast Ethernet Network Adapter; Built-In IEEE-802.11b/g 54Mbps Wireless Network Adapter; ATi Radeon Xpress 200 Video Chipset; Microsoft Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005; Monitor Not Included

I took a look at a similar unit at Best Buy; it has the wireless wireless antenna connection located off the back. Also, it does have a digital out connection (coax if I recall). I do not know if it comes with a keyboard, I assume not.

So I am wondering how good a unit this would be with my new VGA capable TV (a 40 inch sony LCD that can go up to 1080p). My alternative would be a new TVIX unit when it comes out (either a 5101 or a 5500). A TVIX without a HD is currently about $350 suggested retail, more of course with a hard drive.

What I find intriguing about using a full fledged PC is that there would be no need to convert my ipod videos, etc. But I have no idea if this unit can be configured to give a decent picture when playing back ts hi-def files, etc.

With regards to the question from rowdis4; the unit I saw had a built in modem card. In this low profile PCI slot, I know you can put a Hauppage 150 card (I think this is what HP uses if you configure the system on their site).

I'd love to hear about other SFF experience people have had with their TV monitors; experiences with dedicated media center PC unit hooked to TV monitors (especially with regard to anybody but vanilla uses--vanilla being regular PCs, regular mpeg files).
post #4 of 24
Thanks for the research.

Im looking at it as a replacement HTPC. My current one (home built in a custom ahanix case) is just too noisey and dated now. The biggest issue with vanilla pcs (something like a dell), is noise (and they are huge!). The video cards are generally fine for htpc. (no gaming).
I have some experience with the hooking up PC to LCD and Projectors. I was running a projector and then a 32" lcd (some cheapo brand). I hooked it up with VGA and it was great. You can watch movies, play music, browse without any issues. My res was 1024Xx768 (or 1280X768 if i remember correctly). I forget the native res of the LCD, but the text was clear and legible. I also had a myHD card in it for OTA HD. That looked amazing.

Now just bought a Sony lcd 32" its res is 1366x768. I dont have my htpc, but i have hooked up my laptop to and its far better than my old lcd. I want to go back to having a dedicated Meida PC hooked up. Learning lessons from past experience, i want something that is prebuilt, quiet, and does everything i want it to. I could build another PC using quiet parts but im thinking it will end up costing about the same as prebuilt one. I googled TVIX - thats looks good, but kinda expensive, im trying to shoot for something <1000.

If youre on the fence about HTPC, i can tell you go for it. Its very rewarding and gives you many more entertainment options. Otherwise TV is good for TV and DVD. With HTPC it opens up to limitless entertainment off your media center. TV, DVR, Music, internet even games.

And if you have a 40" Sony LCD (that can go to 1080p) Youre set. One thing you may need is a video card that can do 1920X1080 (or whatever the 1080 res is) well. And have the horsepower to do it. Im not sure is the Xpress 200 does it well enough. Thats more of a question for rest of the crowd here.
post #5 of 24
There are USB HDTV tuners now, so I don't think the lack of full-size or enough PCI slots is an issue any more. I am curious how well a Core Solo + Radeon Xpress 200 would play HDTV in MCE.

- Mike
post #6 of 24
Thread Starter 
I agree that HDTV is probably going to tax the xpress 200. Plus I don't think that the VGA can goup to 1080i specs.

I did discover another option. Acer now has a unit that is about $550; with a dvd burner, 250 gb hard drive, 500 mb of memory, and best of all does have a dvi output.

I think it has windows media center software, and is much smaller than the HP unit. Downside, no optical output . It was an Athlon processor. 2.4 ghz I think.

So this could be an option too.
post #7 of 24
HP Slimline 7410

There is a modem in the PCI slot. I would like to connect to my HDTV via a dvi out by putting in a new graphics card. Does anyone know which card would work for this computer? I've been checking online and cannot find anything; I know it must be a low profile or half height PCI card, but which one will work and where do I get it? Any help would be great. Thanks!
post #8 of 24
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Originally Posted by Akvile View Post

HP Slimline 7410

There is a modem in the PCI slot. I would like to connect to my HDTV via a dvi out by putting in a new graphics card. Does anyone know which card would work for this computer? I've been checking online and cannot find anything; I know it must be a low profile or half height PCI card, but which one will work and where do I get it? Any help would be great. Thanks!


Also: I dont play games; so it doesnt need to be for that.
post #9 of 24
Thread Starter 
I have done some preliminary looking for half height pci cards (the whole category; not just video). I have not found much.

I don't think an add in card for video will be very helpful with this machine. The add in slot is PCI; not PCI express or AGP. So at best one might find some form of accelerator.

Maybe the Acer machine is a better choice if you must have DVI.
post #10 of 24
Thread Starter 
HP has just announced some updates to this line. Again, it can be purchased with Intel or AMD chips. There are choices among dual core processors, serious memory, various flavors of windows vista, and quite a few video card choices. Some clearly have dvi along with vga. I'd love to have some others look at these machines and give their opinions.
post #11 of 24
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Originally Posted by originalsnuffy View Post

HP has just announced some updates to this line. Again, it can be purchased with Intel or AMD chips. There are choices among dual core processors, serious memory, various flavors of windows vista, and quite a few video card choices. Some clearly have dvi along with vga. I'd love to have some others look at these machines and give their opinions.

At these prices, I would just go with a Mac Mini, and scrape off MacOS and install MCE or XP. This avoids the need for dealing with Vista crap and is more compact and pretty inexpensive.

If you need slots of course, that's a different story, but many seem very pleased with mac mini's as silent HDTV PC clients, running MCE and other HTPC software.

Thanks,
mike
post #12 of 24
I just bought the HP s7600n slimline pc clearanced out at Office Depot for $299.99.
The configuration was different than what the box said. It was suppose to have the athlon 64 3500+ in it, but it came with the x2 3800+ !! I threw in another gig of ram for $60.00 bucks. Plus it had a $50.00 rebate! Then you get the free upgrade to Vista home premium. Very nice system quiet and cool. I have it in my bedroom hooked up to my Olevia 27" 720p monitor through vga. Needless to say I am one happy camper! btw The mobo on this is the ASUS A8N 6150le the onboard video has 64mb dedicated memory and up to 256mb shared memory.
post #13 of 24
just a little bump for info
post #14 of 24
Thread Starter 
Devilraydave:

Looks like you got an incredible deal!
post #15 of 24
Thread Starter 
The comment on the ASUS board led me to look at the ASUS website. I did not realize that one could buy a fairly similar barebones PC from ASUS that would be similar to the HP slimline, but of course customized to one's needs.

Interesting...
post #16 of 24
Just hit 2 Office Depots in DE, but none of these to be found.



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Originally Posted by devilraydave View Post

I just bought the HP s7600n slimline pc clearanced out at Office Depot for $299.99.
The configuration was different than what the box said. It was suppose to have the athlon 64 3500+ in it, but it came with the x2 3800+ !! I threw in another gig of ram for $60.00 bucks. Plus it had a $50.00 rebate! Then you get the free upgrade to Vista home premium. Very nice system quiet and cool. I have it in my bedroom hooked up to my Olevia 27" 720p monitor through vga. Needless to say I am one happy camper! btw The mobo on this is the ASUS A8N 6150le the onboard video has 64mb dedicated memory and up to 256mb shared memory.
post #17 of 24
Thread Starter 
HP tells me that there is a 21 day return policy on these bad boys. Now that the new versions are out with Vista, I have ordered a fairly fully configured unit. Expected ship date is mid-Feb, so I'll probably have it by the end of Feb.
post #18 of 24
Thread Starter 
I returned my first slimline unit. This was custom ordered from HP. The front label was incorrectly labeled, which I figured would hurt resale value. The first unit had the highest level of Intel processor; 2 gb of memory, the highest level of video card, the biggest hard drive...etc. I thought this unit was overpriced for what was delivered.

The replacement unit was purchased off the shelf from CompUSA. This unit was more on the low end...and I am just using the VGA output not the DVI. Realistically, so far it does not seem much slower. The resolution of the video is less sharp; but in my case I can use the VGA input to the LCD TV so one less switch box connection is required. For my purposes, this unit is working just fine. The downside is that the built in video plays hi def just fine, but can't play games such as Battlefield 2.

I did discover an add-in for Windows media (HDTV pump) that allows me to play hi def ts files directly using microsoft media player and media center. AC3 filter solved my audio problem with my one XVID file. I could not figure a way to get some video ipod podcasts to play in windows media player, so I broke down and put quicktime in. I also am using flv player right now for downloads from youtube.

I also tested s-video and composite outputs look on the upstairs TV. The resolution was mediocre; but would be fine for use as a substitute "VCR".
post #19 of 24
just a little bump for someone who have probblem with slimeline lately?? I haven't own hp slim pc yet.. but i just curious..
post #20 of 24
My S7712n (I think that's the model I have) has been running 24/7 for probably two or more years now. I'm effectively using it as a headless home server (Server 2003, not WHS), so I'm not taxing the hardware from a processing standpoint.

-SUO
post #21 of 24
I had decided to replace the faulty laptop with a Slimline PC which I recently order.

My order-

HP Pavilion Slimline s3700z customizable Desktop PC

* Genuine Windows Vista Home Basic with Service Pack 1 (32-bit)
* AMD Sempron(TM) LE1300 [2.3GHz]
* 2GB DDR2-800MHz SDRAM [2x1024]
* 250GB 7200 rpm SATA 3Gb/s hard drive
* 128MB NVIDIA GeForce 9300 [DVI, VGA adapter]
* LightScribe 16X max. DVD+/-R/RW SuperMulti drive
* LAN port on system board (10/100/1000Base-T), no wireless LAN
* 15-in-1 memory card reader, 2 USB, headphone port
* No TV Tuner w/remote control
* Integrated 5.1 channel sound with front audio ports
* No speakers
* HP keyboard and HP optical mouse
* Microsoft(R) Works 9.0

I have own vista windows OS CD< I will upgrade it with this. And will upgrade 4GB Memory RAM when it arrive @ my place.

I will get it in few days. I can't wait!
post #22 of 24
I've had my Slimline for almost a year now and it's worked great. I paid $300 for it.
post #23 of 24
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Originally Posted by StinDaWg View Post

I've had my Slimline for almost a year now and it's worked great. I paid $300 for it.

Yeah they cost me $329.00 for that! , isn't that steal a deal?
post #24 of 24
What do you think, My friend decided to replace the faulty motherboard in the Slimline with an Intel Atom mini-ITX, is that bad idea? I just wondering..
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