The PS3 and the Sony SXRD 50" & 60" XBR1 - Page 3

Originally Posted by odysseysteve

I am not sure on this one but I do believe that any 1080p TV will run NBA 07 at the full 60 fps and in 1080p.

Originally Posted by odysseysteve

Not true. NBA 07 runs at 60 fps and in 1080p!

Originally Posted by Tricky2UFellow

Need help with NBA 2K7 only seeing in 720P. We have the KDS-R50XBR1 - 1080i. PS3 1.31 firmware......set to 480p, 720P & 1080i on HDMI Input #7. If 2K7 says 1080P, can someone tell me how to see in 1080i instead of 720P? - Tricky

Originally Posted by Randy M

D'oh !!!!

Originally Posted by histreet

Why won't it "detect" or allow me to set my PS3 in 1080p. I have a 60" XBR SXRD from a year ago. It said it is 1080p WTF? Is there something I have to do? When I play the supplied Telledega Nights BRDVD and hit the Display button on my remote it says 1080i NOT 1080p. Forgive my ignorance, I just assumed this would work since it is why I bought the thing for ~5K a year ago.
Thanks

Originally Posted by joeblow

I think you are being too tough on him. It's not at all incredible to believe that an average consumer sees '1080P' advertised for a TV feature and doesn't stop to find out that it is 1080P output only in the fine print. I do wish that was more obvious on every 1080P sticker for those type of TVs.

But that's water under the bridge. All current sets made now are full 1080P, not partial like before. And the ones that were partial, like ours here, are still really good. I'm just happy there are no detectable differences found yet between 1080i and 1080P on the SXRD XBR series. In the end, we all can be 100% satisfied with our displays.

Originally Posted by histreet

Thanks for the bashing. If you think back a year ago. These set were JUST released (I actually got mine in Oct 05 so a little over a year). I bought it from ABC warehouse and spoke for at least an hour with the sales rep. Anyways, bottom line is they didn't even have 1080P content then, but I wanted to buy a TV that would support it since they say it was 2 million pixels- double the resolution of 1080i. SO, being there were only about 3 sets out that supported 1080p, I found the sony blew them away.

I have a 1.5 year old and I am a developer who works on a computer all day. Forgive me for not reading the posts every night to check that my TV actually did what it was advertised to do.

Check out the info on Sony's site... They claim all over the place that this TV is 1080p. How in the would could one be fooled. I have a degree in advertising and this seems like plain false advertising.

Look on the sonystyle site for the XSRD60 from last year (speakers on sides)...

Sony's Grand WEGA SXRD XBR Series provides the Full HD 1080p experience with stunning detail, film-like images, and crisp, smooth motion.
Feature List
SXRD Panels SXRD technology is the latest display technology developed by the legendary television engineers at Sony to meet and exceed the demands of a High Definition image at its full 1080 line resolution. Digitally transmitted High Definition signals can contain over 2 million individual detail points that need to be displayed accurately and rapidly. SXRD displays those 2 million detail points per SXRD panel accurately since the 3 SXRD panels actually contain enough pixels to fully display a 1080 line picture without interlacing it. SXRD has the speed to create a smooth, film like image.

Video
High Definition: Yes (Full HD 1080)
Native Resolution: 1080p
Display Resolution: 1920 x 1080

Some of you were very helpful. Thanks so much. I will rest assured I am seeing 1080p despite what the info banner says.

Happy Holidays.

Originally Posted by UxiSXRD

I was getting an audible hum and could view some... banding (usually a shade of dark blue/purple just slightly noticible from the black background) moving upwards using my Sony PlayStation branded PS2 component cables. It almost seemed like it was trying to go more than 60Hz or something...

Switching to HDMI and optical (the intended setup all along), the buzz is gone as is any visible banding. Anyone else see anything like this?

Originally Posted by joeblow

I've downloaded and tested the HK version of Tekken 5: DR, which was planned all along to be my ultimate test. I played it extensively on 480P, 720P and 1080i settings of the XBR1. I played it with the wireless Sixaxis controller, and I played it with a PS2 controller using a Radio Shack USB converter.

The conclusions are clear: there is definitely noticeable lag at 1080i. In general I can "feel" it while playing Tekken, but specifically there are certain combos I tried that barely worked 1 out of 20 tries in 1080i, but worked every time in 480P and 720P.

What that means is that the conversion from 1080i to 1080P for games that support 1080P takes enough time where your inputs fall behind the action on screen. This is different than display lag, or general frame rate sluggishness which does NOT occur as you can read in the rest of this thread. The frame rate for 1080i and 1080P games is the same, but input lag is indeed evident for a game that requires frame-accurate inputs at 1080P.

So in conclusion, you can play these fighters or rhythm games just fine at 720P or less on the SXRD XBR1. I can still attest to the fact that you won't notice it much playing "regular" games like GT:HD, where I have times that are 7 seconds off the world record holders playing in 1080P. If you want a pure 1080P gaming experience for all games however, this is not the TV to get. I'll add this text to the first post for newcomers.

I wish I'd waited for the XBR2, but honestly had no idea about all of this when I made my purchase. I can live with 720P because it still looks really, really good, but if I get a chance to sell the XBR1 and upgrade, I'll do it.

Originally Posted by joeblow

I'm just happy there are no detectable differences found yet between 1080i and 1080P on the SXRD XBR series. In the end, we all can be 100% satisfied with our displays.

Originally Posted by joeblow

I've downloaded and tested the HK version of Tekken 5: DR, which was planned all along to be my ultimate test. I played it extensively on 480P, 720P and 1080i settings of the XBR1. I played it with the wireless Sixaxis controller, and I played it with a PS2 controller using a Radio Shack USB converter.

The conclusions are clear: there is definitely noticeable lag at 1080i. In general I can "feel" it while playing Tekken, but specifically there are certain combos I tried that barely worked 1 out of 20 tries in 1080i, but worked every time in 480P and 720P.

What that means is that the conversion from 1080i to 1080P for games that support 1080P takes enough time where your inputs fall behind the action on screen. This is different than display lag, or general frame rate sluggishness which does NOT occur as you can read in the rest of this thread. The frame rate for 1080i and 1080P games is the same, but input lag is indeed evident for a game that requires frame-accurate inputs at 1080P.

So in conclusion, you can play these fighters or rhythm games just fine at 720P or less on the SXRD XBR1. I can still attest to the fact that you won't notice it much playing "regular" games like GT:HD, where I have times that are 7 seconds off the world record holders playing in 1080P. If you want a pure 1080P gaming experience for all games however, this is not the TV to get. I'll add this text to the first post for newcomers.

I wish I'd waited for the XBR2, but honestly had no idea about all of this when I made my purchase. I can live with 720P because it still looks really, really good, but if I get a chance to sell the XBR1 and upgrade, I'll do it.

Originally Posted by joeblow

Marc Alexander: I shall test all of those theories tonight!

coronaMinn: I couldn't find any info either so that's why I made this thread and tried testing for myself. Still, read the update in the first post as there have been developing concerns.

JBRhee: Heh, I've been playing Tekken for 10 years and competitive fighting games in general for 15 years. I can tell when there's sluggishness in a game's response to my inputs.

Originally Posted by joeblow

JBRhee: Heh, I've been playing Tekken for 10 years and competitive fighting games in general for 15 years. I can tell when there's sluggishness in a game's response to my inputs.