B&W Owner's Thread - Page 352

Originally Posted by Tweaked05

How can B&W only have 4% of the vote? Perhaps they are just not as well known as the others on that list?

Originally Posted by Asedious

Don't buy expensive cables, they'll do the same as cheaper ones... Check monoprice, they have great options for low cost and same efficiency

Is it OK that the wire overshoots the terminal hole?

Originally Posted by Tweaked05

How can B&W only have 4% of the vote? Perhaps they are just not as well known as the others on that list?

There are thousands of loudspeaker brands and models. In addition, how a loudspeaker sounds to you can be very subjective experience, which makes it difficult even for us product reviewers to make an objective decision on which ones are best. However, everyone seems to have something to say about their favorites. I received some very interesting nominations, but have narrowed them down to five finalists for your consideration. The five finalists are: B&W, KEF, Klipsch, Magnepan, and RBH (includes EMPtek).

As a result, some great candidates didn't get quite enough nominations to make to the final five. Some brands include: Atlantic Technology, Paradigm, and more... Vote for your favorite from the following finalists, which are listed alphabetically in the poll form below.

Originally Posted by crzycuyler

I just visited the Bowers and Wilkins website and found something interesting. The frequency response of the 683 gets down to 38Hz while the CM9 only 56Hz. They both say the frequency range to be the same (-6db at 30Hz). Is this accurate or do I not know how to read this accurately? That makes the 683 more desirable to me in a stereo setup as I listen to bluegrass music mostly. The lowest frequency of the double bass instrument is 41Hz. Would this mean a subwoofer would not be needed and that it would be potentially less accurate than these speakers until really cranked up loud? I like the idea of two powerful towers for music instead of a subwoofer. When it comes to home theater and party music I understand the need for a subwoofer.

Anyways, I have the 685s and see the upgrade tree to branch out to either 683 or CM5 then meet again at CM9, but if what I'm seeing is accurate the 683s have the most appeal? Anyone have any thoughts?

Originally Posted by RoubaixPro

It would be interesting to hear a head to head comparison between the PM1 and 805Di although I know that the 805Di costs twice as much as the PM1

Originally Posted by bornacane

Can i set my CM8 to full band. Audessy seems to think this is where they should be is this ok????

Originally Posted by bornacane

Can i set my CM8 to full band. Audessy seems to think this is where they should be is this ok????

Originally Posted by SeattleHTGuy


If you are looking to use Audyssey EQ/EQXT/EQXT32, you want to override Audyssey EQ and set the crossover to 80 Hz or perhaps 60Hz, you want your very low Bass to feed to your subs for L/R speakers. This is more an Audyssey question covered to the point of madness in the Audyssey threads.

Originally Posted by bornacane


So I should change my crossover to 80hz. But leave my speakers at large? Cause that's what I just did.

Originally Posted by pbarach


If you leave your speakers set to LARGE there is no crossover--no bass goes to the sub. Put on some music with low bass and put your ear right next to your sub and see if I'm right.

Originally Posted by pbarach


If you leave your speakers set to LARGE there is no crossover--no bass goes to the sub. Put on some music with low bass and put your ear right next to your sub and see if I'm right.

Originally Posted by bornacane

So I should change my crossover to 80hz. But leave my speakers at large? Cause that's what I just did.

Originally Posted by jjackkrash


After you run Audyssey, set all speakers to small and set them all to 80Hz as a default/starting point, and go with that unless there is a real reason to cross them over higher or lower in your system, for example, if you have speakers that won't play low enough to cross them over at 80Hz.

Edit:

Read and follow this closely if you haven't already:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...5#post14456895

Originally Posted by bornacane

Thanks for the link I shall start reading now!!! I have set them all to small and did the cross over at 80hz. I have B&W cm8, cm centre, cm1 rears. Using marantz av7005/mm7055. Should that fit within the range u mention?

Originally Posted by bornacane


Change front to small set crossover to 80hz and now sub works. I guess I'll just let my sub handle the bass. Is that ok?

Originally Posted by jjackkrash


I have n804s, and HTM2 Center, and Def Tech Towers for surr., with a Submersive HP for a sub. I have them all crossed over at 90Hz right now, even though Audyssey sets them all to "large" or "40Hz," but I am still playing around with placement and room measurements so this is subject to change. But 80Hz is what THX recommends and is a safe default position until you have a reason to cross them over higher or lower, and I am pretty sure that all of your speakers are capable of going at least as low as 80Hz. If Audyssey set the surrounds or center at higher than 80Hz, however, I would leave the crossover higher because it indicates the speaker won't go lower. Make sense?

Edit: Without going back through the thread, I am assuming you have a capable sub? If for some reason you don't have a capable sub, then the main l/r channels need to get set to large until you get a capable sub.

Originally Posted by Matts

Here are some shots of the 805's for anyone who is interested.

Two channel stereo setup.

Originally Posted by Djoel

Sweet, how you like them, and are you going to expand the system to 5.0 ht later down the road?

Djoel

Originally Posted by Matts

Hi Djoel

Listening primarily to music, as my projection system and room are in the process of being remodeled. I really enjoy the sound the 805's put out. They are very detailed and handle voices quite well compared to Energy V6.3 Towers I own. The only real downside is that the 805's will also reveal more flaws in some of lesser quality recordings which can be a tad annoying from time to time, but I have learned to live with it. Overall I can only compare them to last speakers I used and still use in another room, the Energy's. I don't know how fair the comparison is price wise but the Energy Veritas played noticeably louder with fewer watts, which is not that surprising considering they are more sensitive speakers. But 805's create a wider, with more depth in the soundstage, even considering their size differences.

I also found that while the Veritas played louder with less watts, I could play the 805's louder with less stress if that makes sense. To me the 805's excel with the music I like to listen to. Very tight and clean bass, excellent voice tone, and the slight coloration in the mid's is not a detriment to me, as it was what I was looking for. After all if I wanted a tonally neutral speaker I would have bought something else.

I actually have the 804's on order, as soon as I get them then I will add either the HtM4 of HTM2 center. I will probably keep my Energy sub for a while as it does a good job paired with the 805's.

Originally Posted by Matts

Hi Djoel

Listening primarily to music, as my projection system and room are in the process of being remodeled. I really enjoy the sound the 805's put out. They are very detailed and handle voices quite well compared to Energy V6.3 Towers I own. The only real downside is that the 805's will also reveal more flaws in some of lesser quality recordings which can be a tad annoying from time to time, but I have learned to live with it. Overall I can only compare them to last speakers I used and still use in another room, the Energy's. I don't know how fair the comparison is price wise but the Energy Veritas played noticeably louder with fewer watts, which is not that surprising considering they are more sensitive speakers. But 805's create a wider, with more depth in the soundstage, even considering their size differences.

I also found that while the Veritas played louder with less watts, I could play the 805's louder with less stress if that makes sense. To me the 805's excel with the music I like to listen to. Very tight and clean bass, excellent voice tone, and the slight coloration in the mid's is not a detriment to me, as it was what I was looking for. After all if I wanted a tonally neutral speaker I would have bought something else.

I actually have the 804's on order, as soon as I get them then I will add either the HtM4 of HTM2 center. I will probably keep my Energy sub for a while as it does a good job paired with the 805's.

Originally Posted by Matts

Hi Djoel

Listening primarily to music, as my projection system and room are in the process of being remodeled. I really enjoy the sound the 805's put out. They are very detailed and handle voices quite well compared to Energy V6.3 Towers I own. The only real downside is that the 805's will also reveal more flaws in some of lesser quality recordings which can be a tad annoying from time to time, but I have learned to live with it. Overall I can only compare them to last speakers I used and still use in another room, the Energy's. I don't know how fair the comparison is price wise but the Energy Veritas played noticeably louder with fewer watts, which is not that surprising considering they are more sensitive speakers. But 805's create a wider, with more depth in the soundstage, even considering their size differences.

I also found that while the Veritas played louder with less watts, I could play the 805's louder with less stress if that makes sense. To me the 805's excel with the music I like to listen to. Very tight and clean bass, excellent voice tone, and the slight coloration in the mid's is not a detriment to me, as it was what I was looking for. After all if I wanted a tonally neutral speaker I would have bought something else.

I actually have the 804's on order, as soon as I get them then I will add either the HtM4 of HTM2 center. I will probably keep my Energy sub for a while as it does a good job paired with the 805's.

Originally Posted by scanido

Hearing the 805D's definately will be an eye opener! I was quite surprised when hearing them the first time. They sound very much like towers (without the very bottom octaves) with a huge soundstage and unreal imaging!

Give them some real juice and they will literally come alive! I know a few that are putting 300-400w into them and the 805D's get to another level. Sound absolutely amazing!!

Originally Posted by JohnAV

I heard people replacing diamond tweeters when using 805D's with way too powerful amps and turning the volume up. Isn't the recommended amp range 50 to 120 watts? Sure you can drive them with a more powerful amp, but 300 -400 watts?

Originally Posted by leo2498

Hi Matt, I was in the same boat last week and just now I have just the complete set up with 804D+HTM4D+805D but I have some doubts because the 805D don't have much work to do like rears and I'm thinking that is a waste of money for such use, what do you think about of this? what kind of application you would use for them? hometheater for my is the only possible aplication in this moment but I prefer to get some other benefit from them.

Originally Posted by Tweaked05

I've recently been contemplating purchasing a power amp to upgrade my system, and have been looking at the emotiva XPA-5. Would this be a good upgrade for my 604's, 602's, and LCR-60? I would be using my HK AVR-354 as a processor.