Originally Posted by AcuDefTechGuy
20% off MSRP is the minimum or me.
Most dealers get 30-40% off MSRP depending on the speaker line.
AcuD.... I am thinking that you don't own any B&W's or have much experience with purchasing them. B&W probably clamps down hardest on retailers straying too far from MSRP than any other speaker vendor in the market place. I believe some really crazy esoteric stuff holds the line even harder but certainly no other main stream producing manufacturer controls retail as firmly as B&W. This goes to online selling above all else (note I did not lump you in with the person who is looking for an on-line retailer. You can get 20% on very rare occasion from a retailer but this would usually mean a model change out or a floor model that has been around a long while.
So, if you are looking for Klipsch or Def Techs at 20 to 40% off full MSRP that is probably locatable. B&W's pretty much never, ever, ever. Now the cool thing about B&W's is that they hold their value far better than just about anything out there. The 800 line is quite extraordinary here. My 805N's sell from around 60 to 70% of their original retail price 13 years later. The little SCM1's are even in higher demand and sell for as much as 75% of full retail 10 years later. I purchased my 803S's on close out and did indeed get a 25% discount Funny thing is 3 years later, this is what they are going for used at many sites. I suppose that if you get the cheapest series of B&W's or many of the in wall systems, you will see used speaking going below 50% of retail. B&W has been described as the Rolex of speakers. Rolex started off with some pretty reasonable watch prices and over decades raised the price on all lines. This has helped establish a used market that has done well. Certainly, this is the path B&W has taken with the Nautilus line as well.
OK, my point here is your 20% rule is pretty silly for many of B&W's speakers. This is because they do go all rabid pitbull on deeper discounts and online sales. If however, you go buy some Polks at anything less than a 35% discount, you are burning dollars.
So...... Please provide better advice to those looking to buy or at least do some homework on the used market. 10% is often the best many can get on B&W's. There may be occasionall retailer deals better and they usually involve a system type purchase.