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post #15331 of 17845
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Originally Posted by SeattleHTGuy View Post

Brian is totally spot on. This series of speaker had excellent cabinet quality. They are almost of the quality of the Nautilus 800 line and the mentioned possible $100 offer is not going to work. As Brian indicates, there really isn't a similar line offered by B&W. The current CM9 is close and not cheap. The CM8 fails to play as low.

Brian's price range is good as well. This previous series holds its value fairly well due to really having great quality cabinets and 800 series drivers. they are older, but so are my 805N's and they still sound great.

Finally, consider these older speakers, that have furniture grade cabinets and quality drivers, depreciate much like a quality piano. Quick depreciation at first but then flattening out at 30 to 45% of original MSRP. You will not see this same depreciation curve on Polk. Go look at the auction sites for resales on this stuff. Now if the cabinets are trashed and the speakers are blown, they are worth next to nothing; much like a destroyed Steinway - part value only.

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Originally Posted by Brian B View Post

Those speakers are newer (10-13 yrs) and much higher up in the line. Comparable models today are $2k+ in the B&W line. The last time I posted used pricing my post was removed, but the bluebook on the used speakers is ~$580-715. If they are in particularly good shape then that makes them worth more to me.

Only you can decide value.

B.

great advice, i'll bite the bullet. The thing which bother me earlier is if older speakers sounds as good or better than current generations. This just show speaker technology has not drastically improved SQ over the past 10 years or so. I might be still wrong though.
post #15332 of 17845
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Originally Posted by dexth77 View Post

The thing which bother me earlier is if older speakers sounds as good or better than current generations. This just show speaker technology has not drastically improved SQ over the past 10 years or so. I might be still wrong though.

Yes technology has been evolutionary not transformative the B&W 800Diamond sound much better than the original 800 series the question is 20% , 30% I am not sure!
post #15333 of 17845
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Originally Posted by dexth77 View Post


great advice, i'll bite the bullet. The thing which bother me earlier is if older speakers sounds as good or better than current generations. This just show speaker technology has not drastically improved SQ over the past 10 years or so. I might be still wrong though.

Another thing that might matter is this period of time the speakers were still made in the UK while all the models near that price point are now manufactured in China. It's not so much that there haven't been improvements, only that the price increases have been much greater relative to these improvements. It is not uncommon to see models of similar quality cost 2x what they did 10 years ago.

B.
post #15334 of 17845
A friend was moving and gave me the following;

2ea B&W DM603-S3 36" Tower
2ea B&W DM601-S3 Bookcase/Surround
1ea B&W LCR60-S3 Center Ch
1ea Velodyne VLF1012 Sub-woofer

He said they were 6 years old, they are in excellent condition, sound great.

Any opinion on these?

I'm setting these up in a 15X 20 room with 10' ceilings, anything special in the layout or install?

What type of speakers wires should I run?

Any requirements in a receiver I need to look for think one of the newer Denon's

tks
post #15335 of 17845
Jimbo - Now that is a good friend.

They are all excellent speakers. ( My opinion ) I have some 600 S3 and 601 S3, and the LCR60 S3, my fronts are CDM7 SE I am not familiar with your front models. Velodyne is a good name although I have not owned one of them, I have heard them given good praises. I am sure someone here owns one that could give you insight about them.

Not positive about the age but you can go to B&W's website and the archive section and it gives you manufacture dates for each model.

As far as speaker wire you will get plenty of recommendations and opinions. Personally I like and use Kimber on my fronts, as the mantra goes "You can't go wrong with Kimber". For all of my surrounds I am actually using thick 10 gauge ( I believe ) Rocket Fish. I will probably eventually replace it all with something a little better but for surrounds I think it does alright.

Not familiar with Denon, some of it will have to do with your budget and what you want to accomplish with your home theater setup. You definitely want 5.1 minimum, HDMI, probably want the RCA connection for the sub assuming the sub has one. One thing I know about my front CDM7 SEs is they like power and they will come alive with it. Again not sure about your model or if they will be used much for music as opposed to movies but may want to keep that in mind.

Congrats you got a nice setup.

Will
post #15336 of 17845
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Originally Posted by Jimbo2012 View Post

A friend was moving and gave me the following;

2ea B&W DM603-S3 36" Tower
2ea B&W DM601-S3 Bookcase/Surround
1ea B&W LCR60-S3 Center Ch
1ea Velodyne VLF1012 Sub-woofer

He said they were 6 years old, they are in excellent condition, sound great.

Any opinion on these?

I'm setting these up in a 15X 20 room with 10' ceilings, anything special in the layout or install?

What type of speakers wires should I run?

Any requirements in a receiver I need to look for think one of the newer Denon's

tks

Denon 3312/3313/X4000 would be great. Better deals on the 3312/3313.

Monoprice bare speaker wires will be great.
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thanks
post #15338 of 17845
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Originally Posted by Jimbo2012 View Post

thanks

I was going to say, "For the love of gods, what kind of friends give speakers & subs without amps and cables?" eek.gifbiggrin.gif
Edited by AcuDefTechGuy - 11/7/13 at 10:55am
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I am really enjoying my X4000, but only as a preamp processor.
post #15340 of 17845
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Originally Posted by Jimbo2012 View Post

A friend was moving and gave me the following;

2ea B&W DM603-S3 36" Tower
2ea B&W DM601-S3 Bookcase/Surround
1ea B&W LCR60-S3 Center Ch
1ea Velodyne VLF1012 Sub-woofer

He said they were 6 years old, they are in excellent condition, sound great.

Any opinion on these?

I'm setting these up in a 15X 20 room with 10' ceilings, anything special in the layout or install?

What type of speakers wires should I run?

Any requirements in a receiver I need to look for think one of the newer Denon's

tks

Very nice your friend, just get some Mogami, Belden or Canare speaker cable very nice an very reasonably priced
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Monoprice 14ga CL rated will do I believe
post #15342 of 17845
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Originally Posted by Jimbo2012 View Post

Monoprice 14ga CL rated will do I believe

Yes that will do as well biggrin.gif
post #15343 of 17845
Just noticed that the DM603-S3 36 Towers don't have any legs or pads on the bottom to protect the floor.

I see threaded fittings.

Can I just use something that fits or is there something special to use?
post #15344 of 17845
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Originally Posted by Jimbo2012 View Post

Just noticed that the DM603-S3 36 Towers don't have any legs or pads on the bottom to protect the floor.

I see threaded fittings.

Can I just use something that fits or is there something special to use?
Check BW's archives
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After much research, I have narrowed down my choice for MT-60D to either Denon X3000 or Marantz 6008. What do you guys think? Just need to find a showroom or a shop that could allow testing for both although this is highly unlikely here.

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Hey guys - I acquired a LCR600 s3 that has blown midbass drivers.  The tweeter is fine.  They are both frozen up / locked up.  I guess I don't mind replacing the drivers, but that will set me back $300, making the price of the speaker $300 total, which isn't bad... I could probably find one cheaper on Ebay or somewhere else used. 

 

I don't want this to happen again, but I don't know how it happened in the first place!  Any ideas as to how this could happen in the first place?

 

 

Today I also picked up a couple other goodies :)  I literally feel like I stole them from the company selling.  They are a high end home audio install company that is moving locations so they are letting things go for a great price.  I paid $500 for EVERYTHING in the top pic :)  Seriously.   They were all brand new, still in un-opened boxes when I picked them up today! (minus the LCR600 s3)

2x FPM 4's and a HTM62

 

Do you guys think the LCR600s3 is an upgrade to the HTM62?  The drivers are much bigger on the 600 than the htm, but like I said above I would need to fix them...  who knows if there is anything else wrong with the lcr though that I would need to replace... Looks like I could get $300ish for the HTM62 if I sold it on Ebay (There is a current auction with one going for $285 right now with 23 hours remaining)  and that would fund my rebuild.

 

Worth it or not?

 

Some pics:

 

 



 

post #15347 of 17845
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Originally Posted by chrisdemello View Post

After much research, I have narrowed down my choice for MT-60D to either Denon X3000 or Marantz 6008. What do you guys think? Just need to find a showroom or a shop that could allow testing for both although this is highly unlikely here.
One where are you from and two they both almost the same expect 6008 is going to cost more like two or three hundred dollars.
post #15348 of 17845
I have a pair of CM8's with a CMC and have been very pleased. When I looked at CM5's plus stands, it was close enough for me to take the plunge and get the CM8's. I use CM1's for the surrounds. this is across a 14x24 room with hardwood floors.
post #15349 of 17845
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Originally Posted by Jimbo2012 View Post

Just noticed that the DM603-S3 36 Towers don't have any legs or pads on the bottom to protect the floor.

I see threaded fittings.

Can I just use something that fits or is there something special to use?

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Originally Posted by Chise View Post

Check BW's archives

I give up where are the archives?
post #15350 of 17845
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Originally Posted by Jimbo2012 View Post


I give up where are the archives?


http://www.bowers-wilkins.com/product_archive/product_archive.html
post #15351 of 17845
Quick question on impedance. I have CM9s and just got a Marantz SR7008. The Marantz has a speaker settings option of either 6 ohm or 8 ohm. Since they CM9s are 8 ohm but can dip to 3 ohm, would it be best to set the Marantz on 6 ohm?
post #15352 of 17845
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Originally Posted by drewTT View Post

Quick question on impedance. I have CM9s and just got a Marantz SR7008. The Marantz has a speaker settings option of either 6 ohm or 8 ohm. Since they CM9s are 8 ohm but can dip to 3 ohm, would it be best to set the Marantz on 6 ohm?

8 ohm.
post #15353 of 17845
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Originally Posted by Chise View Post


One where are you from and two they both almost the same expect 6008 is going to cost more like two or three hundred dollars.

Originally from Manchester but I am based in Singapore for a few years. I suppose it boils down to interface and user-friendliness. Will this be a tie match-up with Marantz producing a slightly warmer sound?

post #15354 of 17845
Opinion please?

I am thinking of moving a pair of my surround B&W 802D in an other room (12 x11 x 9) and get a HTMD2 ? Or just do a 5.1 KEF LS50 surround sound and leave the 802D in the B&W room!

What do you think biggrin.gif
post #15355 of 17845
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Originally Posted by wse View Post

Opinion please?

I am thinking of moving a pair of my surround B&W 802D in an other room (12 x11 x 9) and get a HTMD2 ? Or just do a 5.1 KEF LS50 surround sound and leave the 802D in the B&W room!

What do you think biggrin.gif
Go with LS50s in that smaller room.
post #15356 of 17845
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Originally Posted by jima4a View Post

Go with LS50s in that smaller room.

Thank you that's what I am thinking about biggrin.gif. Just was wondering, I think the 802D might over power the room! If the rooms were on the same level I could try but unfortunately one is upstairs and I can't carry those 802D beasts wink.gif
post #15357 of 17845
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Originally Posted by wse View Post

Opinion please?

I am thinking of moving a pair of my surround B&W 802D in an other room (12 x11 x 9) and get a HTMD2 ? Or just do a 5.1 KEF LS50 surround sound and leave the 802D in the B&W room!

What do you think biggrin.gif

I would have a B&W room and a separate KEF room. And if you have a 3rd room to use, make it a Revel room. biggrin.gif
post #15358 of 17845
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Originally Posted by AcuDefTechGuy View Post

I would have a B&W room and a separate KEF room. And if you have a 3rd room to use, make it a Revel room. biggrin.gif

Gracias, sounds good but I would rather have a Sonus Faber Room biggrin.gif. I listen to a lot of string instruments and I find that Sonus Faber rules when it comes to guitars, violin, cello and bass! wink.gif
post #15359 of 17845
Wse... You could Just send those 802 to Florida I can put them to use with my other 802's in my theater. He hmm mm maybe use one for my center channel.
post #15360 of 17845

Hello all,

 

(I moved this over from a dedicated thread.)

 

Despite my internal debate over the B&W PM1 or the 805D, I am curious if anyone has tried running either as a stereo pair connected only through Sonos' Connect:Amp, and how the sound different compared to other configurations. The Amp is 55w/channel, and should drive either speaker for my relatively small living room, (13ft/24ft). 805D recommends 50W min, PM1 30W min. The speakers will face across the 13ft dimension, and our house carries bass well. We don't listen at loud volumes (can still hold conversation), but do listen to a diverse selection.

 

All our music is digitized lossless these days, run over ethernet and 802.11ac wireless, so the less boxes and wires the better, especially in our living room, but I do need the speakers set up to realize their potential. I am looking for a simple audio solution, and if this worked well it would be very simple indeed. I will be running a B&W PV1D powered sub to fill out the low bass as well. If anyone has it within their power and will to test, even with similar speakers, I would be most grateful.

 

Sonos:Connect through a separate stereo Amp is another option, if anyone has a recommendation for a good fit to these speakers.


Thanks!

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