B&W Owner's Thread - Page 318

Originally Posted by Martycool007


Anyone? Anyone?

Originally Posted by pbarach

Beautiful room! But I'm actually most interested in the chair with the orange cushions. I have an antique modernist chair with a very similar design. Do you happen to know the manufacturer or where you bought yours?

Originally Posted by old blue

My current setup uses CDM 7NT mains, CDM CNT center and ASW 2500 sub. I'd like to add a pair of matching surrounds for 5.1 movies. I'm running these with an onkyo AVR.
I am open to suggestions for a pair of bookshelf surrounds that will match this setup. Doesn't have to be B&W, but must match timbre. suggestions?

Originally Posted by jclif77

Hey guys, it looks like I will finally be able to get my hands on a new pair of cm8's or 9's. Can anyone point out the differences and if it's worth the $1k. I've read the reviews but opinions seemed to be all over the place. So if you folks don't mind, one more time, please explain the differences....

Originally Posted by jclif77

I plan on auditioning both of them side by side before I make a purchase. I was looking for opinions from anyone who may have auditioned them or has experience with them.

Have you ever asked someone how did a car drive? How about one or two cars, you thought about purchasing and what were the differences the driver experienced?

A cop out? I would like to think that one of the purposes of this forum was to develop a community of valued experiences, in which one could seek help, as a means to aid in a smart, well informed purchase ? No?

Originally Posted by McStyvie

Why does he recommend the HTM61 over the CM center? About the same price nowadays.
If you can't afford the CM Center 2, then the CM center would be an obvious second choice. Has kevlar too.

I have the 683 Theater (with an Epik Empire sub + the ASW610) and tested the HTM61 extensively in my home when I got my system 2.5 years ago. Rubbish. The design is just crap. They should have had two equal sized mids on either side of the tweeter, and not one smaller and one larger. It just sounded wrong, had poor dispersion, voices were muffled and unclear, if I moved my head a couple inches, the sound was totally different. I seriously thought something was wrong with the center channel out on my Denon and was about to return the receiver.

I then tested a 685 as my center and was like, WHOA! I ended up returning the HTM61 and using a third 685 as my center channel and have been happy as a pig in shat ever since. The 685 does a stellar job as a center (getting it to fit can be tricky) and costs half as much. I really wanted to like the htm61 center because it is nice on the eyes, but I just hated it. I tested the HTM62 after the 685 and returned that as well. Nothing really wrong with that one, it just couldn't compare to the overachieving 685. And at that time, the CM Center was about 900 here.

I would question the reputability of the dealer if he is recommending the HTM61 as a center for the CM's and mixing and matching the surrounds tbh. Stick with the CM's all around. I think it will be worth the extra money and I am not the only one here who is less than impressed by the HTM61. If you do a thread search, I think you will find more opinions.



Hope that helps!

Originally Posted by flovv

Hey,

I really like this thread, fantastic for info and ideas for all B&W owners or soon to become!! I have gotten alot of ideas from here, though I had to scrap quite a few due to wallet size

I wonder if anyone could help me sort some things out.
My system is mainly HT, but also some music are being played when I feel like it.
My system consist of a Denon 3311 powering center and the surrounds. I have a pair of CM7s powered by a NAD C275BEE as fronts.
When I added the NAD a few weeks back (running the CM7s on the denon before) the CM7s really came out! There are just so much more details now!!

As I plan to get the CMC2 and it will be driven by the Denon, will it have enough power to be as good as the CM7s powered by the NAD, or will it sound like the CM7s did when they were powered by the Denon? Note that they sounded good on the Denon, but it was a clear difference going to the NAD, even for my untrained ear, even my wife though it sounded good, though she didn't have any complaints before
I really want to have a good sounding center in movies.

Also wonder if the M-1s will work a good surrounds as I don't have the much space for surrounds (plan on mounting them on the back wall)??

Many thanx,
flovv

Originally Posted by soonermike67

I also have some CM-9's and a Denon 3311ci powering them. I was looking for suggestions for surrounds in a 7.1 setup (rears and mid rears)?

I'm in a dedicated media room 14' wide and 19' long. Seating rows are at 10' and 15' deep roughly.

I would like to try some more power for the front 2 or 3 after reading this post to get more from my CM-9's, what is a good option for $500 or under?

Originally Posted by larry_in_keller

My current setup includes N805 for the fronts, HTM2 center and SCM1 for surrounds. I would like to replace the HTM2 to match the color of the fronts which got me to asking myself whether I should go with the HTM1 instead.

Would this be a good idea or should I stay with the HTM1 for better timber matching?

Would the room correction in my Anthem reduce / eliminate any timber matching issues?

I run 50% / %50 music / HT.

(I know they are getting a little "long in the tooth" but I really like the sound.)

Originally Posted by SeattleHTGuy

I still own N805s and use them as Wides in an 11.2 room. They are utilized with L R 803S's and an HTM3S center. I also have SCMS's for rear surrounds. I may get blasted for this but I think the HTM1 would be an uptick for movies. So much material is fed through a center for dialogue and just general movie/TV viewing. I had the little HTM2 for years and was quite pleased but a bigger center simply has a more full upper Bass and midrange. It can play just enough lower than you can roll the Subs at 60 Hz as opposed to 80Hz and just get a bit more upper Bass through the center. I saw a pretty big improvement in the center when I went with the HTM3S. I wouldn't sweat the center being much bigger and a bit of a mismatch for the N805s. i just think for movies and general TV watching, having a very capable center is a big deal.

Having said all that, the Anthem EQ process will most definitely make up quite a bit of timber variance between the center and Left/Right. I might be missing this though, i thought the original HTM1 and the first generation N805s share the exact same 1 inch metal dome tweeter? Should these not be already timbre matching? Not much for the Anthem to do for high frequency difference.... Me thinks.

Originally Posted by Avliner

That's my front array and - to my ears - it just really rocks though:

Originally Posted by jclif77

I plan on auditioning both of them side by side before I make a purchase. I was looking for opinions from anyone who may have auditioned them or has experience with them.

Have you ever asked someone how did a car drive? How about one or two cars, you thought about purchasing and what were the differences the driver experienced?

A cop out? I would like to think that one of the purposes of this forum was to develop a community of valued experiences, in which one could seek help, as a means to aid in a smart, well informed purchase ? No?

Originally Posted by [Irishman]

Wow, you've got them sideways!
Um, you know that jacks with the sound.

Originally Posted by jjackkrash

I am running N804's for the front mains and an HTM2 center in a 5.1 system. We just moved and the wife wants me to go from a standing speaker for the surrounds to "something small attached to the wall" or "something in wall." Has anyone run the little M-1's for surrounds? Can I get away with something like the M-1 for the rears without wanting to shoot myself in the head? Thoughts?

Originally Posted by SeattleHTGuy

You have to make your own choice but I think using the M-1s is too big a compromise. The M-1s are not at all efficient, they barely play to 80Hz and probably start to lose it at 90 Hz. In a 5.1 normal size room, you end up with wonderful fronts and small struggling Surrounds. In a 5.1 system, surrounds do receive a lot of material. Why not look for some used better B&W on wall surrounds. Perhaps a model that can do BiPole or Dipole? Perhaps a used pair of SCMS's or the SCM1's. These would go great with your fronts and give you a lot closer match all around. If this can't work, go get some good in walls.

Here's an idea. Use the 804s as surrounds and go get a pair of 800 Diamonds for the fronts. I'm sure the misses wouldn't mind. Heck, my wife would be thrilled at me for spending more on fronts than a decent car. just kidding....

Originally Posted by jjackkrash

I am running N804's for the front mains and an HTM2 center in a 5.1 system. We just moved and the wife wants me to go from a standing speaker for the surrounds to "something small attached to the wall" or "something in wall." Has anyone run the little M-1's for surrounds? Can I get away with something like the M-1 for the rears without wanting to shoot myself in the head? Thoughts?

Originally Posted by jjackkrash


That's what I was afraid of. I have a pair of B& W DS7 surrounds that were damage by kids poking them with their fingers. Any chance you know where I could get these fixed in the Seattle-Tacoma area?

Originally Posted by flovv

hey,

I think more power would do your cm9s very good !! On my cm7s it was, as I wrote, a really big difference and yours cm9 are even more power hungry then mine so I think that the 3311 would have even more problem to got the most out of the speakers!
For amp I dont have that much experiance, though the NAD 275 is apparently a very good match for the cm9s as well, got acctually that info just yesterday when I asked a Hifi-klubben (a large Hifi store here in Sweden) if I would have any problems upgrading to the cm9s with my NAD and the answer so that it would work great!!

/flovv