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post #2341 of 2598
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Originally Posted by TF Ghost View Post

Off or standby?

Standby. If the projector was off (which the only way to do so would be unplugging the power) it would not even have power to register your key presses.
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post #2343 of 2598
Just wanted to add that I have also just reset my lamp for the second time and it's still running fine (it's pretty dim, but the the picture's great with the lights off). The color wheel whine is still there, but it has not gotten any worse in the past 9 months, so I guess I can live with it.

The HD1000 has been an awesome little projector that I have gotten TONS of use out of and it's still running strong - so strong that I have a hard time justifiying any upgrade at the moment.
post #2344 of 2598
BMaugans...

I feel the same way... I lust after a 1080p machine, but the picture looks great and the projector is still bright on my 120" screen running in economy even after 1500 hours.

May the Force be with US. :-)
post #2345 of 2598
The HD1000U has and is a outstanding machine! I have not seen a pj that makes me want to get rid of yet and that is just my opinion.
post #2346 of 2598
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Originally Posted by Terence View Post

The HD1000U has and is a outstanding machine! I have not seen a pj that makes me want to get rid of yet and that is just my opinion.

I also love my HD1000U. This weekend I hooked up my Bluray player for the first time (its been hooked up to my plasma, a Samsung 50" 1080p). I have both a Superbit and BR version of "The 5th element", so I loaded them up and A/B'ed them. My DVD player is a Denon 3930CI, hardly a slouch. As good as the Denon is, its PQ just can't compete with the BR resolution. Its a *big* improvement.

So, in my case, getting a BR player has effectively extended the life of the 720p projector. As much as I'd like a 1080p projector, I can wait for a while.

-Reid
post #2347 of 2598
Apparently I'm mildly retarded and I'm just now figuring it out.

Hopefully someone can help me out here.

I was thinking about buying one of these, but is my 7' ceiling gonna be a deal-breaker for me due to this thing's offset? I have plenty of throw room, but a low basement ceiling.

Thanks fellas.
post #2348 of 2598
I love my HD1000u too, but succumbed to "upgrade fever" last week when I saw that the Optoma HD20 could be had for <$1000. So my beloved HD1000u is up for sale on Ebay now, and I am crossing my fingers that when the Optoma gets here tomorrow I will not have major buyers remorse. I don't think that 720p to 1080p change will be very obvious from normal viewing distances, so only real effect may be reduced screen door effect when standing in front of the screen - hah I better not talk myself out of my decision!
post #2349 of 2598
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Originally Posted by BigCrutch View Post

Apparently I'm mildly retarded and I'm just now figuring it out.

Hopefully someone can help me out here.

I was thinking about buying one of these, but is my 7' ceiling gonna be a deal-breaker for me due to this thing's offset? I have plenty of throw room, but a low basement ceiling.

Thanks fellas.

I have mine in my basement theater with a 108" screen. The ceiling is 7' 3" and the screen is about 20" off the floor and everything looks and works great. I do have it tilted up very slightly, but not enough to cause any trapezoidal effects. Let me know if you'd like pics and I'll post some of the screen and projector mounting.

BTW: The mounting plate that the projector connects to is only about 1" from the ceiling.
post #2350 of 2598
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Originally Posted by tustinfarm View Post

I love my HD1000u too, but succumbed to "upgrade fever" last week when I saw that the Optoma HD20 could be had for <$1000. So my beloved HD1000u is up for sale on Ebay now, and I am crossing my fingers that when the Optoma gets here tomorrow I will not have major buyers remorse. I don't think that 720p to 1080p change will be very obvious from normal viewing distances, so only real effect may be reduced screen door effect when standing in front of the screen - hah I better not talk myself out of my decision!

be very careful on ebay with projectors. make sure you mark the unit in some way, as well as the lamp, and make paperwork regarding serial numbers. many horror stories of pj being sold, and lamps being taken out, and replaced with bad ones, and then buyer saying they got a bad pj and paypal refunds the cash....not good.
post #2351 of 2598
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Originally Posted by Legairre View Post

I have mine in my basement theater with a 108" screen. The ceiling is 7' 3" and the screen is about 20" off the floor and everything looks and works great. I do have it tilted up very slightly, but not enough to cause any trapezoidal effects. Let me know if you'd like pics and I'll post some of the screen and projector mounting.

BTW: The mounting plate that the projector connects to is only about 1" from the ceiling.

And that's^^ why this forum is great. Thanks a lot. Pics would be cool, but don't go out of your way, you already told me what I needed to know, thanks.
post #2352 of 2598
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Originally Posted by tustinfarm View Post

I love my HD1000u too, but succumbed to "upgrade fever" last week when I saw that the Optoma HD20 could be had for <$1000. So my beloved HD1000u is up for sale on Ebay now, and I am crossing my fingers that when the Optoma gets here tomorrow I will not have major buyers remorse. I don't think that 720p to 1080p change will be very obvious from normal viewing distances, so only real effect may be reduced screen door effect when standing in front of the screen - hah I better not talk myself out of my decision!

Post back your thoughts between the Mits & Optoma just for kicks I want to know what you think.
post #2353 of 2598
+1 on the Optoma comments.

That's the exact path I see myself taking in a few months.

Would love to hear a comparison, or even, I'll say it....... screenshots?!?!?
post #2354 of 2598
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Originally Posted by Terence View Post

Post back your thoughts between the Mits & Optoma just for kicks I want to know what you think.

My HD20 is due to arrive today - I would prefer to leave the package unopened until "official" test reviews arrive, to keep my return options open. HOWEVER, I may not be able to excercise the required self-control, in which case I will be posting first impressions here (and on the official HD20 thread) within the next day or two (!). Stay tuned.
post #2355 of 2598
First impressions, upgrading from the HD1000u to Optoma HD20. This will focus on the differences I observed, whereas I will post my main review in the official HD 20 thread. Caveat is that my theatre is quite modest - projecting 145 diagonal on a bare white wall, in room with no light control (wait until dark to watch!), white ceiling and very light carpet. Seating distance about 14 feet from screen.

Start up time - HD20 start-up time is significantly faster, and when operating lamp in the low mode, does not step down from high like the HD1000u.
Fan noise - I'm pretty sure the HD20 is quieter in both mode, despite what the dB specs. say.

Optics - perhaps a little better than my HD1000u, since the color fringing on a black and white test pattern is less than with the HD1000u - not that this was a real issue with the Mitsu, however. No signs of uneven focus; across the entire field can see the pixel structure OK.

Light spill - partly since the HD20 cabinet is white, the light spill out the front looks much more prominent, though in this environment (of poor light control) the degree of light spill has no discernible effect on the image.

Shut down time - significantly shorter than the HD1000u, and the fan speed goes WAY up, so is very noisy for about 30 seconds. First time this happened it scared me as I thought maybe that would be the sound for operating lamp on the bright mode (as in the HD1000u), but thankfully it is not. Looks like they just want to do a turbo cool on the hot lamp.

Picture quality (drum roll) - not a dramatic change from the HD1000u when watching HD content from cable, but a more subtle effect, as in a smoother, film-like image due to the smaller pixel sizes. I used the test pattern recorded from HDnet to do some tweaking and evaluation. Initially I thought the HD20 image had lost resolution versus the HD1000u, until I examined the resolution test pattern and realized that dithering or Nyquist frequency effects on the 720p HD1000u make the resolution bars merge in an irregular pattern, whereas on the HD20 there is a smooth transition from the separate bars in the wedge to a smooth blur. This phenomenon undoubtedly makes the images more film-like, and echoes the comments by projection CRT enthusiasts that "digital projectors display harsh edges that are not natural". By the way, I am only getting around 700 horizontal lines on my HDNet test pattern (for either projector), so wonder if my cable company is down-rezzing the channel - has anyone else observed this effect? Shouldn't I be getting >1000 lines since there would in theory be 1920 pixels across the image? Final comment is that I briefly hooked up blu-ray player, and it automatically fed the HD20 an 1080p 24fps signal through HDMI, and the image quality was extremely good - which suggests that my source feed (from cable DVR) is probably so crappy that it doesn't matter whether the PJ can display 720p or 1080p. A proper image test would be to run a blu-ray test pattern disk.

Bottom line - a nice, incremental upgrade from the HD1000u, but if you're happy with your HD1000u, you shouldn't feel like you're missing out on a hidden world by postponing an upgrade to the HD20. This is my opinion formulated after 3 hours of exposure, so keep that in mind, too, and await the professional test reviews get some hard facts.
post #2356 of 2598
Thx for the honest feedback sir, also please link us to your pro review when it is up.

Thx again tustinfarm!
post #2357 of 2598
Did you happen to grow up in Tustin, CA?
post #2358 of 2598
"...By the way, I am only getting around 700 horizontal lines on my HDNet test pattern (for either projector), so wonder if my cable company is down-rezzing the channel – has anyone else observed this effect? Shouldn’t I be getting >1000 lines since there would in theory be 1920 pixels across the image? Final comment is that I briefly hooked up blu-ray player, and it automatically fed the HD20 an 1080p 24fps signal through HDMI, and the image quality was extremely good – which suggests that my source feed (from cable DVR) is probably so crappy that it doesn’t matter whether the PJ can display 720p or 1080p..."

There are a number of variables that could be at work:
(1) broadcasting company could be sending @720p;
(2) worse yet, could be sending 480p on hd channel;
(3) your stb could be set up for 720p output - I set my comcast stb to output everything at 1080i...

How is SDE with the HD20 vs. the HD1000u? Enjoy, I'm still enjoying my new HC1600, which was a great upgrade over my IF X1.
post #2359 of 2598
[quote=Brown Radagast;17026352
There are a number of variables that could be at work:
(1) broadcasting company could be sending @720p;
(2) worse yet, could be sending 480p on hd channel;
(3) your stb could be set up for 720p output - I set my comcast stb to output everything at 1080i...

How is SDE with the HD20 vs. the HD1000u? Enjoy, I'm still enjoying my new HC1600, which was a great upgrade over my IF X1.[/QUOTE]

I experimented with 1080i & 720p outputs on the DVR, and 108oi provided the highest sharpness on the HDnet test pattern (as it should), but looks like a blu-ray test disc will be the definitive resolution check, since the cable company is probably down-rezzing the HD channels.

Regarding the SDE versus HD1000u, it is significantly reduced, as one would expect based on the smaller pixel size, but let's face it the HD1000u SDE is pretty minimal unless one is very close to the screen. At normal viewing distances the indirect effect is that the rolling movie credits lose the last bit of jagged edges that tell you it's a digital image.

I don't see any reason not to keep enjoying your HD1000u or HC1600 PJs - to step up to 1080p is nice, but still an incremental change, hard to match that "first home projector" feeling, which for most people is life-changing or jaw-dropping...but I digress.
post #2360 of 2598
I appreciate your comments....

I have the HD1000u in a town-home and the picture is quite good...... I even compare it quite favorably with my Infocus SP-7210 which sold for about 7x's the Mits price.

Yes, both are 720p machines and like most people I always have upgrade-i-tes but everytime I turn either one on I am struck by how lovely a job they do.
post #2361 of 2598
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Originally Posted by tustinfarm View Post

... I don't see any reason not to keep enjoying your HD1000u or HC1600 PJs - to step up to 1080p is nice, but still an incremental change, ...

As a happy HD1000 owner, thanks for your comparison of the HD1000u and the HD20.

Since my normal seating distance does not allow me to resolve individual pixels, I would expect only slight resolution benefits from a 1080p unit. My HD1000 is about 30 months old with about 1500 hours on the lamp. With a good Blu-ray disc, the picture quality still amazes me. So my HD1000 is a keeper. In a couple of years when I'll need a new lamp, I'll probably go 1080. But much of my TV content will still be 720p and I'll still be watching DVDs...
post #2362 of 2598
My HD1000 just arrived at my house per the missess! This is my first pj, and I've been spending the last few days making my screen (painting 4x8 hardboard with Wagner). Can't wait, hopefully I'll be watching a blu ray on it tonight!
post #2363 of 2598
I keep forgetting to post this, so I will before I forget again. My Mits HD1000u was replaced after about a year due to service complications. Nothing at all to do with the equipment - it was an issue of how local service, then Mits service in CA messed up the projector. Anyway, I ended up getting a new projector after the headache was over. After that, I felt I was hyper critical of the unit and for the first time, really noticed light leakage. It was off to the left side and very noticeable to me during dark, dark scenes.

What I did to get rid of probably 70-80% of the light leakeage was I just put a piece of rubberized weatherstripping around the lens. The strip is about 1/8 inch thick. Probably the biggest, cheapest tweak that has worked for me so far.

I've had it on now for almost two years. No issues with heat buildup or anything. So, if anyone is kinda bothered by the light leak, I highly recommend this and I hope it helps some dudes out there.

My lamp is on 1700 hours and going strong. I love this pj.
post #2364 of 2598
So, I have my HD1000 set up in my basement, and I absolutely love it, I'll never go back to plasma or lcd for my gaming/movies.

But, during dark scenes, there are what my daughter calls "polka dots" of light visible. Is this considered light leakage, dust blobs, or something else? There's probably ten of them ranging from 2" to 5" in circumference.

Is there anything I can do about it? I tried cleaning the front of the lens to no avail. Any ideas fellas?
post #2365 of 2598
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Originally Posted by BigCrutch View Post

So, I have my HD1000 set up in my basement, and I absolutely love it, I'll never go back to plasma or lcd for my gaming/movies.

But, during dark scenes, there are what my daughter calls "polka dots" of light visible. Is this considered light leakage, dust blobs, or something else? There's probably ten of them ranging from 2" to 5" in circumference.

Is there anything I can do about it? I tried cleaning the front of the lens to no avail. Any ideas fellas?

Sounds like the dreaded "dust blobs" to me. These are typically on the interior optical surfaces that can't be accessed without partial disassembly. Despite the fact that the DLP PJs all have "sealed optics", this just means that mirrors on the chip will never have dust, but it is the exterior surfaces of the sealed chip "chamber" which can still get dust blobs, manifested as out of focus grey circles visible on a dark field.

I would do a "dust blob" search in this thread to see if anyone has described the best method to remove them. On one of my previous PJs I tried to solve this problem by using canned air to thoroughly blow out the interior dust - WRONG thing to do - it caused a massive dust blob problem. In my case, thankfully someone had posted detailed instructions on how to take the PJ apart and get to the interior surfaces and clean them. Hopefully this is not required for the HD1000u.
post #2366 of 2598
Thanks for your advice. I'll look around fro some info and post my findings.
post #2367 of 2598
Well, I looked at all the posts, no dice on cleaning advice.

I can still buy a Squaretrade warranty (within 30 days of purchase) Anyone know if they'll cover dust blobs?

I looked at their website, and it doesn't specify. I'll call them if I must, but I'd rather not.

Thanks
post #2368 of 2598
Are the polka dots on the screen or on the ceiling?
post #2369 of 2598
They are on the screen and to the side of the screen.
post #2370 of 2598
Gotcha. I occasionally get some spots when the lens is 100% open, but closing it a bit remedies it.

Don't think it's the same issue by any means.
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