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post #241 of 2598
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Originally Posted by g0wave View Post

Has anyone set this up with a Harmony 880 remote yet? Trying to figure that out... Help appreciated!

I have set it up with the 880. You have to program it to send mulitple off signals to the projector to turn it off. Let me know if you have any questions. It took me a few times to get it right, but it works great now.
post #242 of 2598
I programmed it with my 880 and it worked flawlessly without any tweaking. You might need the newest version for this, though. Flash the firmware!
post #243 of 2598
I received my HD1000 last Thursday and finally got it mounted last now. I'm still amazed by the picture this thing throws. It was definitely a worthwhile upgrade from my X1

I've encountered one issue however. When the projector is inverted, whether ceiling mounted or just sitting on a table upside-down, the front right exhaust fan makes a vibration / whining sound every few minutes. It's almost like a resonance.

I've had PC fans that do this in the past. Sometimes it resolves itself other times I've had to replace the fan. I haven't decided if this annoys me enough to return the PJ as I usually forget about it when watching a move / playing a game but in quiet scenes it's definitely a distraction...

Anyone else experience this?
post #244 of 2598
It shouldn't be that loud. I had the colorwheel start making noise on a 3000u after about a week (constant high pitch whine in that case). It and my current 1000u are very quiet in low lamp mode.
post #245 of 2598
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Originally Posted by talon95 View Post

It shouldn't be that loud. I had the colorwheel start making noise on a 3000u after about a week (constant high pitch whine in that case). It and my current 1000u are very quiet in low lamp mode.


After about 70 hours of use my HD1000's color wheel is making more noise than it did when new, by an appreciable amount. Still not as loud as my IF4805 but kind of annoying. Hope it is a temporary issue that resolves itself.
post #246 of 2598
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Originally Posted by talon95 View Post

It shouldn't be that loud. I had the colorwheel start making noise on a 3000u after about a week (constant high pitch whine in that case). It and my current 1000u are very quiet in low lamp mode.

It's definitely not the colorwheel in this case, though I did experience that with my X1 as it aged. It's just one of the front cooling fans. The sound it makes is a plastic whine / whurring sound. It's not constant, but I do hear it for 30 seconds or so every 4-5 minutes.

Just out of curiosity I will try low lamp mode later tonight. I've been running in normal mode until now..
post #247 of 2598
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Originally Posted by auburnu008 View Post

I have set it up with the 880. You have to program it to send mulitple off signals to the projector to turn it off. Let me know if you have any questions. It took me a few times to get it right, but it works great now.

Yeah that was my issue as well. The re-confirm off button. After tinkering a bit it seems to work fine. Watched Return of the Jedi last night and was absolutely blown away
post #248 of 2598
Who here is using a Playstation 3 with their HD1000u? I am, and I'm trying to figure out the best way to send video from the PS3 to the HD1000u, and to deal with the various settings in the PS3's menu in regards to playing Blu Ray movies and games at various resolutions.


Currently, I'm going from my PS3 to the HD1000u via HDMI. In the PS3 menu, I'm not using the automatic settings for HDMI, I'm using custom, to make sure my games are in 720p and not 480p, and to make sure my Blu Ray movies are 1080i and not 480p. I'm wondering if "automatic" will do the same thing?


Does the HD1000u have someplace in the menu where it will tell you the signal it's currently being fed? The PS3 has a few issues with certain games that are 720p "only "being displayed as 480p, and it has some issues where if you set the rez to 720p and watch a Blu Ray movie, you get 480p too. I'm definitely trying to avoid that. I can avoid that if I go in and manually make sure of my resolution (in the PS3's XMB), but it's kind of a hassle to have to do this every time I go from a game to a movie or vice versa. There is also the issue of the optical audio output when using HDMI, but since this is the projector forum no need to get into all that in here.
post #249 of 2598
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Originally Posted by Anthony1 View Post

Who here is using a Playstation 3 with their HD1000u? I am, and I'm trying to figure out the best way to send video from the PS3 to the HD1000u, and to deal with the various settings in the PS3's menu in regards to playing Blu Ray movies and games at various resolutions.


Currently, I'm going from my PS3 to the HD1000u via HDMI. In the PS3 menu, I'm not using the automatic settings for HDMI, I'm using custom, to make sure my games are in 720p and not 480p, and to make sure my Blu Ray movies are 1080i and not 480p. I'm wondering if "automatic" will do the same thing?


Does the HD1000u have someplace in the menu where it will tell you the signal it's currently being fed? The PS3 has a few issues with certain games that are 720p "only "being displayed as 480p, and it has some issues where if you set the rez to 720p and watch a Blu Ray movie, you get 480p too. I'm definitely trying to avoid that. I can avoid that if I go in and manually make sure of my resolution (in the PS3's XMB), but it's kind of a hassle to have to do this every time I go from a game to a movie or vice versa. There is also the issue of the optical audio output when using HDMI, but since this is the projector forum no need to get into all that in here.

Dont got a HD1000 but I have a PS3. Right now if you have PS3 set at 720p, games will play in HD but BD wont be. You have to switch to 1080i if you want BD to be HD until it gets fixed. Before you could just have 720p set and all would work right, so im sure it will be fixed.

So have PS3 set at auto which should be 1080i for movies.
post #250 of 2598
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Originally Posted by Anthony1 View Post

Does the HD1000u have someplace in the menu where it will tell you the signal it's currently being fed? The PS3 has a few issues with certain games that are 720p "only "being displayed as 480p, and it has some issues where if you set the rez to 720p and watch a Blu Ray movie, you get 480p too. I'm definitely trying to avoid that. I can avoid that if I go in and manually make sure of my resolution (in the PS3's XMB), but it's kind of a hassle to have to do this every time I go from a game to a movie or vice versa. There is also the issue of the optical audio output when using HDMI, but since this is the projector forum no need to get into all that in here.

Hit "menu" on the remote. It should be on the RHS of the menu that pops up.
post #251 of 2598
I set my PS3 to 1080p with my hd1000. Movies come in at 1080p which is great, and games play at 720p.
post #252 of 2598
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Originally Posted by Dashnet View Post

It's definitely not the colorwheel in this case, though I did experience that with my X1 as it aged. It's just one of the front cooling fans. The sound it makes is a plastic whine / whurring sound. It's not constant, but I do hear it for 30 seconds or so every 4-5 minutes.

Just out of curiosity I will try low lamp mode later tonight. I've been running in normal mode until now..

Update: It looks like the projector is going back. ProjectorPeople.com wants to put me on a conference call with Mitsubishi before they authorize a return. It's worth a shot if they can come up with a solution.

I'm leaning towards the source of the noise being the color wheel at this point. It only occurs when the PJ is displaying an image. During the power-down / cool-down with only the fans running all is well.

The odd thing is it only makes this noise when the projector is inverted. Ceiling mounted or just sitting on a table....
post #253 of 2598
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Originally Posted by phobus View Post

I set my PS3 to 1080p with my hd1000. Movies come in at 1080p which is great, and games play at 720p.


The HD1000u's native resolution is 1280 x 720, so obviously the movies aren't really being seen at 1080p, so I wonder what exactly happens when the HD1000u gets a 1080p signal? Does it downconvert to 720p? You think your Blu Ray movies look better when the HD1000u scales the 1080p to 720p, rather than having the PS3 output the Blu Ray movies at 1080i? I'm guessing it scales it to 720p, because if your PS3 games are playing at 720p, then it wouldn't be scaling it to 1080i, right?


If anybody knows exactly what this projector does when it is fed a 1080p signal via HDMI, please elighten us..... Next time I fire up the projector, I will change my PS3 HDMI setting to 1080p only and play around with it and see what I can decipher from it. I'll try it with Ridge Racer 7. Ridge Racer 7 is a 1080p game, so if it scales that to 720p, then we would pretty much have to assume that it's scaling the Blu Ray movies to 720p too.
post #254 of 2598
Wouldn't it work like this?
1080p > compressed to 720p
1080i > compressed to 720p
720p > displayed at 720p
480p scaled to 720p
480i > converted to 720p

This is a 1280 x 720 pixal array, so everything is scaled or compressed to fit into that right? (Unless you specify 'real' or native.)
post #255 of 2598
that would bean interesting answer, I am running my 360 and my ps3 @ 1080p. Hopefully it scales it down to 720P
post #256 of 2598
I've read this debate/question a few times and I think I finally have an understanding enough to offer up an explanation/answer.

Anything you feed to the projector besides it's native resolution is scaled one way or another. But if you feed your projector the native resolution, there is no conversion taking place anywhere.

For instance the case of an upscaling DVD Player... If you have a 720p PJ and plug your every-day DVD player into it via component, the projector will be displaying the DVD at 720p even though the DVD is encoded at 480p. Where as if you purchase an upscaling DVD player, and then feed the projector 720p directly from the player, the conversion will most likely look a lot better.

In short: pixels cannot be rendered if they are not already present(with the exception of anything in CSI:LV) And everything is in the eyes of the beholder....

How'd I do???
post #257 of 2598
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Originally Posted by Mark_Likes_Games View Post

Wouldn't it work like this?
1080p > compressed to 720p
1080i > compressed to 720p
720p > displayed at 720p
480p scaled to 720p
480i > converted to 720p

This is a 1280 x 720 pixal array, so everything is scaled or compressed to fit into that right? (Unless you specify 'real' or native.)


1080i can be deinterlaced to 1080p then downscaled to 720p
1080i is most likely bob/weaved to 540p then 540p is scaled to 720p
480i is deinterlaced to 480p then 480p is scaled to 720p
post #258 of 2598
The HD1000 won't do 1080p -- its HDMI handshaking will report that it can only do 1080i,720p,480p,576p,etc. and the device it is hooked to wil only output at one of those settings so most likely you are getting 1080i sent across the wire and then the Mits scales it to 720p.
post #259 of 2598
What about the post from people that said that it can and does accept 1080p. I even asked pc users to hook the pc up to it . At least one said it does it. Now which is it, does the 1000U accept 1080p or not. I dont care if it scales it I only want to know so I dont have to change res all the damn time from monitor to projector.

And based on what it looks like sure I might feed it 720p its native res but until I get one I can't tell you which I'll be doing.
post #260 of 2598
The manual does not list 1080p among the 28 resolutions they list in the table on page 38. Also my PC only showed 1280x1024 for a progressive resolution greater the 720p.
post #261 of 2598
Did you hook up your computer via DVI-HDMI or via VGA? VGA is capped at 1280x1024. Members here have reported that the HD1000 accepts 1080p over HDMI without issue. I don't have any sources to confirm, but can someone test this out?
post #262 of 2598
Well I have to say the out of box experioence of this projector wowed me as well -- I was without power the first two nights after the projector arrived so I took it on the road and tried it in far less than optimal conditions -- the matte white wall we used had a rough textrure job and quite a few nail holes. The Mits still blew us away playing all of the WMV HD samples from the windowsmedia site and followed up watching the new Pirates DVD using VLC to upscale it from a laptop (DVI out to HDMI set at 720p60). Shut off Overscan so we were at one to one. Screen size about 110".

Last night we got power back so we tried it out at home with some HD Tivo material from HBO and CBS. This time we projected on a yellow wall with a semi-gloss smooth finish at about the same size. I have to say even on a yellow wall this projectors HD blows me away. It will be hard to go back to my DLP RP or my LCD.

I definitely think occassional or even full time ambient lighting is not going to be an issue for most people with this projector depending on its angle from the screen.

My mount arrived today from Mountdirect so tonight I will probably get to start my build out for my theater (if I can keep from just watching what I have so far). When I get done I hope to have the projector ceiling mounted with a fashion grey screen for a 120" 16:9 layout.

Once I have it done I will post more info and pics.
post #263 of 2598
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Originally Posted by absolutezerok View Post

Did you hook up your computer via DVI-HDMI or via VGA? VGA is capped at 1280x1024. Members here have reported that the HD1000 accepts 1080p over HDMI without issue. I don't have any sources to confirm, but can someone test this out?

I was hooked up via DVI to HDMI (from an ATI 9600 PRO). The drivers list 1080p when I select "List All Modes" in Advanced Display Properties. Hovever it didn't show 1920x1280 in the standard properties screen. I don't have any other way to try 1080p so I can't say for sure that some other issue is in effect but my first tries seemed to indicate that the HD1000 wasn't going to accept that res. the only post I saw saying it did 1080p was in this thread http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=759909
And that post confused me since that could only be component or VGA if I understand the HD output from the XBOX 360.
Hopefully someone else could answer who knows for sure their card really is doing 1080p.
post #264 of 2598
OK, to try to answer the question of whether this proj accepts 1080p, I played with different settings on my HTPC hooked up via DVI-HDMI to my HD1000. The card is an Nvidia 7900GS with the 93.71 drivers. The NVidia control panel was a little confusing, with settings for various dual display modes, and a separate setting for the HD signal, etc, etc.

So here is what I found out. I managed to output a 1080p/60 signal to the HD1000. I verified this was the case when I brought up the menu on the proj and it showed "1080p 60". However, the picture was really bad...it looked like half the lines were thrown out...text was almost unreadable. I then switched to 1080i 60 and it looked better. It was still kinda fuzzy, but text was readable. My normal setting is the proj's native resolution of 720p, and here everything is razer sharp.

So what does it all mean? Far as I can tell, the proj is capable of accepting 1080p, but it looks like garbage (at least with a Windows desktop). 1080i is better. And of course, 720p is best.
post #265 of 2598
I agree that 1280X720X60Hz is best for HD1000u using DVI->HDMI. How did your desktop look? On mine (Radeon 9800 Pro, Catalyst 6.9) the Start bar is off the screen at the bottom and the left handside icons are cut off a little. I do get 1:1 pixel mapping with DVI 1280X720X60Hz using "real" mode on HD1000u but my desktop looks like it's a little bigger and some items are off the screen. Play DVD videos showed normal image without any cut off.
post #266 of 2598
Hometheaterforum.com now has a HD1000 review posted in the TV/Projectors section. It was calibrated by a ISF guy before the review, saying it needs a lot of work out of the box. Is that right? Sorry, I don't know how to post a link.
post #267 of 2598
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Originally Posted by Jim McC View Post

Hometheaterforum.com now has a HD1000 review posted in the TV/Projectors section. It was calibrated by a ISF guy before the review, saying it needs a lot of work out of the box. Is that right? Sorry, I don't know how to post a link.

Reveiw is here

When I compared the 1000 to my 4805, I noted a definite difference in some blue shades (blue on the 1000 tended to darker, more towards purple). Not the same as what they say in the review (they saw yelowish greens), but I wonder if it's related. I also found that no amount of tweaking of the greyscale controls would fix this.

Over the Christmas break I may go back and compare again now that the bulb in the 1000 has some hours on it.
post #268 of 2598
Here's the difference in blue that I saw. You can see it in the pics from Projectorreviews:

HD1000

IN76

You can see it in the blue shade of Arwen's cloak.

Full reviews are here:

1000u

IN76

Edit: this is more likely the colorspace difference Kras has talked about before. If you go look, the 3000u image is similar to the 1000u.
post #269 of 2598
I dont get it, can anyone help please.

My room is 75'' high, where is the best place to put the HD1000, table or ceiling ? I need the bottom of the 92'' screen to be atleast 30'' of the ground.

Please help if you can.
post #270 of 2598
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Originally Posted by user7800 View Post

I dont get it, can anyone help please.

My room is 75'' high, where is the best place to put the HD1000, table or ceiling ? I need the bottom of the 92'' screen to be atleast 30'' of the ground.

Please help if you can.

If your requirement is to have the screen 30" from the floor, your screen will be mounted at the ceiling. 30" + 45" screen height is 75" . So forget about a ceiling mount.

The offset for a 92"screen is about 15.5 inches. You could mount it on a low table of about 14" and the image will be projected about 30" from the floor.

You may want to consider a projector with more mounting flexibility. (Lens Shift and longer zoom).

Hope this helps.
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