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post #2551 of 2606
[quote=golffnutt;19140425]Hi Guys,

Quick question somewhat related to the discussion above. I have an Onkyo 805 AVR and a Mits HD 1000. As we all know the Mits has only 1 HDMI input so I have an HDMI cable going from my Mits to the back of my 805.

The 805 then has 3 additional inputs which I have in use for 2 Blu-ray players (1 is used strictly for 2 channel CD's because of its quality in my opinion on 2 channel, it is the Pioneer 51FD, the other Blu-Ray player is the Pioneer Elite 05FD which is used strictly for DVD's. The third input is for my VIP 722 DVR from Dish Network.

I assume with the connection program as described above, that the 805 is doing the video processing (I am no guru on this stuff that's why I ask). My question is this.

CAN ANYONE HELP WITH MY ABOVE QUESTION, ANYONE PLEASE???????????
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
GOLFFNUTT
post #2552 of 2606
Not necessarily - I don't know much about the 805, but the video processing could be occurring in the receiver or the projector. Most receivers that are capable of scaling/deinterlacing are also capable of turning those functions off and just passing the signals through untouched. You'll want to check out the receiver's setup menu to determine what's being done to the signal. I have a similar setup using a Marantz receiver (that doesn't do any processing) and have found that the image quality is comparable no matter whether I scale at the source or the projector, so I just set all my sources to output 720P and leave them there. This way, the projector and receiver don't take as long to re-sync once I switch sources.
post #2553 of 2606
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Originally Posted by BMaugans View Post

Not necessarily - I don't know much about the 805, but the video processing could be occurring in the receiver or the projector. Most receivers that are capable of scaling/deinterlacing are also capable of turning those functions off and just passing the signals through untouched. You'll want to check out the receiver's setup menu to determine what's being done to the signal. I have a similar setup using a Marantz receiver (that doesn't do any processing) and have found that the image quality is comparable no matter whether I scale at the source or the projector, so I just set all my sources to output 720P and leave them there. This way, the projector and receiver don't take as long to re-sync once I switch sources.

Thank you BMaugans for the reply and your effort to try and help me. While I really appreciate your taking your time to try and help me I am very disappointed in the forum members for whom I know could really help me with my question as there are thousands of members on this website who own both an 805 and projector. I hope you have a very nice holiday and thank you again for your time and comments.
post #2554 of 2606
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Originally Posted by golffnutt View Post

I am very disappointed in the forum members for whom I know could really help me with my question as there are thousands of members on this website who own both an 805 and projector.

I too am very disappointed... In that you didn't think to look in more obvious places for the answer to your question, and that you felt the need to admonish forum members because you didn't get a response in 24hrs on a semi off topic question in a thread that only gets a handful of posts per week....

So... anyway

Since your question is related to the capabilities of the Onkyo... don't you think your question would be better answered on the Onkyo 805 thread? Or the 805 manual? Or the manufacturers website?

Here's the Onkyo thread for starters.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...ight=onkyo+805
post #2555 of 2606
I also cross-posted this on the Mitsubishi DLP rear projection TV set (635/735/835 series 2008+) thread on AVS, and I figured since it involves both the RP Mits and my HD1000 projector, I'd post it here too:

Strange idea here: I own a 60635 which I use for gaming mostly (3D Vision is awesome), and for my family room I have a Mitsubishi HD1000 ceiling projector. I actually have that set up in rear projection with a glass screen in the wall between my living room and high ceiling garage (where the projector lives in a blacked out upper ceiling behind the screen.)

Anyway, the HD1000 is due a lamp (and probably time to upgrade!) So it's 720p, and I love that the 60" DLP does 1080p as well as 3D, but I already have the 92" RP screen built into the wall for the projector, and I'd love that tech there in my family room.

So I wonder if any techs that have worked on the Mits DLP RP sets or projectors would know if it's theoretically possible to make a hybrid projector out of the electronics from the WD60735 light engine, if pulled from the RP cabinet and combined with cannibalized Mits "front" projector parts like the optics, zoom lens, lamp, etc...? In other words, take the input board, DLP (everything up to the lens and lamp) and make them suitable for projection w/ parts/optics from a Mits projector?

I know it would be a hack, and require some kind of custom jury-rigged "case" to house the guts properly, but it's in the ceiling of a garage behind the screen, so who cares what it looks like? Rather than wait for 1080p DLP projectors to become affordable and available, how about making mine from the best parts of two units I already own. Is there any way that is remotely feasible?

You'd think if you use the power supply, lamp and optics from the projector, and replace the "head-end" of it (DLP chip, input board, logic board, etc..) with the ones from the 60735, it might work together. For power, so long as they can run on standard voltages (ala most PCs are all 5V, 12V, etc..) then I don't see why the boards from the RP can't be powered by the projector power supply (which is probably regulated and needed to power the UHP lamp.)

I'm not sure what the 60735 and similar RP DLP sets have in terms of a "lens"; I'd bet it's fixed focal length and short (but of course there is a mirror too in RP cabinets.) Mainly I wonder if relatively long-throw ceiling projector optics from the projector could somehow mate up with the more advanced light engine on the RP TV? Any ideas?
post #2556 of 2606
Quick question -

I moving into a new house with a dedicated HT room. The room is big ~ 16x24

Currently my HD1000u is setup about 14ft back and it's about 108" image and looks great.

In my new room the PJ is going to be about 17ft back. With seating about 15ft back. The calculator says about 140".

I'm wondering if can still use this PJ from that throw distance and screen size? It's going to be ceiling mounted. The ceiling is 10ft. Calc says image will only be 22inch off the floor! Will it be bright enough? Do I need a extra gain? I'm planning to buy a fixed frame screen for this room. Right now I have it on black out cloth.

I'm trying to avoid upgrading since this PJ still has a great picture!

Thanks in advance for any advice!
BK
post #2557 of 2606
I am no expert but 144" seems a LOT to big for any of the consumer projectors.
projector central shows you can have a 120" screen at 17+ ft with a FL of 17.
If I were you, I would just try it out before making anything perm. Put the projector on a table and use the wall as your screen Paint it white if you have to .. can always be repainted.
post #2558 of 2606
I agree with Doug as far as trying it out goes.....

However, depending on the screen you could go 140"... but I would suggest giving yourself some leeway by using something like the Elite Power Gain (1.8 gain) screen at 135" diag. I have this screen and it works very well.


Although I am currently using this screen with my InFocus 7210, I am planning on bringing in one slightly bigger for the "Barn" and moving this screen over to my HD-1000U.

With a 10' ceiling you should not have any difficulty at all mounting it... if you need to I would use a small amount of "tilt" on the projector and if there is any trapezoidal image as a result of the tilt... just let the image fall slightly onto the black border of the frame rather than using Keystone to correct the image. (IMHO)
post #2559 of 2606
Hi Guys,

Have a quick question that I was wondering if any of you might know the answer to.

I have heard that this projector has handshake problems with AVR's which utilize the Reon chip for video processing. Something about the Reon chip that the 1000 does not like. Have any of you heard this? Are any of you using the 1000 with an AVR which has the Reon chip? I am getting ready to purchase an AVR with the Reon chip is the reason for asking as I already own and like the 1000. Thank you for helping me out on this.
post #2560 of 2606
Hey Guys,

Just picked up a new Pioneer VSX-33 AVR to do audio/video switching between my LCD and Mitsu HD1000u. I can't seem to get any video display on the HDMI input when connected to the AVR. If I go direct to the source, it works fine. This thread is 77 pages now, I thought I'd post before I dig in, in hopes someone has a good solution.

If I switch the input on the hd1000u to video, the AVR starts working and playing sound, just no video.

Thanks in advance!
post #2561 of 2606
Try turning off HDMI control on the VSX33.
post #2562 of 2606
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Originally Posted by NOHDjunkie View Post

Try turning off HDMI control on the VSX33.

Just tried, no go. Any other suggestions? Looks like HDMI control is only available on output 1 as well.
post #2563 of 2606
Good to see there is help still around for HD1000 owners, I gave mine to my brother and moved on to my first 1080p pj a Sharp XV-Z15000 an amazing machine! I will point him to this thread should he any issues or questions.
post #2564 of 2606
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Originally Posted by highvoltz View Post

Just tried, no go. Any other suggestions? Looks like HDMI control is only available on output 1 as well.

I don't remember if the vsx33 has simultaneous output on the HDMI outputs? That can be an issue.

Might sound stupid... But try unplugging the AVR from the wall (for a few minutes at least - the longer the better)

Assuming you've done the obvious, like tried both outputs, tried it without the flat screen hooked up, eliminated cabling as the culprit, have tried with the resolution set to 720p, 1080i etc.

last resort... RTFM or call Pioneer
post #2565 of 2606
Tried hooking the projector up to HDMI out 1, no go (Shorter cable that I know works because it was working with the TV). Tried numerous different video settings no go. I swapped it back to the TV, and the tv had no video. tried changing inputs on the tv to get it to sync up, didn't sync. shut everything off, powered on the receiver, then appletv2, then tv, and finally got it to work on the TV.

I can't seem to get any combo consistent. Is there a certain order I need to power everything on?
post #2566 of 2606
Can anyone recommend a decent place for a replacment bulb for this unit?
post #2567 of 2606
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Originally Posted by Wytchone View Post

Can anyone recommend a decent place for a replacment bulb for this unit?

Projector People
post #2568 of 2606
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Originally Posted by golffnutt View Post

Hi Guys,

Have a quick question that I was wondering if any of you might know the answer to.

I have heard that this projector has handshake problems with AVR's which utilize the Reon chip for video processing. Something about the Reon chip that the 1000 does not like. Have any of you heard this? Are any of you using the 1000 with an AVR which has the Reon chip? I am getting ready to purchase an AVR with the Reon chip is the reason for asking as I already own and like the 1000. Thank you for helping me out on this.

Anyone??????????????????????????????????????
post #2569 of 2606
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Originally Posted by golffnutt View Post

Anyone??????????????????????????????????????

I never heard of this issue before, my 1000 worked flawless (4 yrs) with my Integra DTC-9.8 pre/pro with the Reon chip in use!
post #2570 of 2606
I never heard of it either. When you turn on your components, make sure to turn on the projector last. The couple times I had problems was when I turned on the projector first.
post #2571 of 2606
Did some more troubleshooting-

I hooked up Component from the cable box to the receiver, with HDMI out 2 to the projector. This did not work, which is weird as the receiver was doing all the processing and it should have worked (the receiver was generating the HDMI signal). This drove me nuts, so I pulled the TV out of the bedroom and brought it out, and hooked it up the same way. This worked... which means it's definitely a problem with the receiver / projector configuration, and its not dependent to any specific source. The HDMI port on the projector is verified working, if I use a cable directly from the cable box it works.

What settings could possible cause the projector to not see the HDMI signal?

Another thing to note, if I swap the receiver to the HDMI output, I hear the sound ONLY when the HDMI cable is not plugged into the projector. As soon as I plug it in, the sound stops like the projector locked it up...
post #2572 of 2606
Thanks guys, really appreciate that info and advice. Have a nice weekend.
post #2573 of 2606
My projector turned itself of after a year of flashing 'replace lamp'. I tried holding <> and power but the status light won't stay green and it won't power up. Power light just keeps flashing green and red. Is this just the bulb or a problem with the projector itself? Would like to know so I don't order a new lamp for nothing. Thanks.
post #2574 of 2606
Our Mitsu HD1000 has been warning about the bulb for almost a year as well. I called Projector People and they said (as does the manual) that once the bulb hits 3,000 hours it shuts itself off automatically. Is there some way you can check your bulb hours? I am tempted to reset the bulb hours if I can to keep this from happening as the bulb is still in great shape.
post #2575 of 2606
To check the lamp hours press Menu and arrow over to the Installation menu To reset the lamp counter press the left and right arrows and power button on the projector all at the same time.
post #2576 of 2606
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Originally Posted by Noose View Post

My projector turned itself of after a year of flashing 'replace lamp'. I tried holding <> and power but the status light won't stay green and it won't power up. Power light just keeps flashing green and red. Is this just the bulb or a problem with the projector itself? Would like to know so I don't order a new lamp for nothing. Thanks.

The lamp warning starts at 2850 hours and if you don't reset it before it reaches 3000 hours it won't start anymore. You have to do the lamp reset before 3000 hours. From page 31 of the manual: When the lamp operation time exceeds 3000 hours, the projector automatically shuts off and can’t be used until the lamp is replaced and the lamp operation time is reset.

http://www.aboutprojectors.com/pdf/m...00u-manual.pdf
post #2577 of 2606
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Originally Posted by Legairre View Post

The lamp warning starts at 2850 hours and if you don't reset it before it reaches 3000 hours it won't start anymore. You have to do the lamp reset before 3000 hours. From page 31 of the manual: When the lamp operation time exceeds 3000 hours, the projector automatically shuts off and can't be used until the lamp is replaced and the lamp operation time is reset.

http://www.aboutprojectors.com/pdf/m...00u-manual.pdf

Thank you for the heads up. Looks like I will splurge for a new lamp off eBay for $125 shipped. This one was starting to dim anyway. I wanted a new projector but only watch sports and the odd Blu-Ray on it so will not drop the extra coin for now.
post #2578 of 2606
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Noose View Post


Thank you for the heads up. Looks like I will splurge for a new lamp off eBay for $125 shipped. This one was starting to dim anyway. I wanted a new projector but only watch sports and the odd Blu-Ray on it so will not drop the extra coin for now.

I'd reset it. I reset mine and the bulb went for a few thousand more hours fine before I sold it, and it was still looking strong when I sold it.
post #2579 of 2606
I don't think he can reset it because he didn't reset it before it hit 3000 hrs. It starts flashing the lamp message at 2850 hrs and if you don't reset it before 3000 hrs it won't start at all without replacing the lamp and resetting the counter.
post #2580 of 2606
I decided to buy an Epson 8350 instead of replacing the lamp. My lampless Mits HD1000 is on eBay for $300 less shipping in case anyone is interested. I noticed there are lamps for it for $100 on eBay.
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