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post #31 of 2606
Mits. dealer sites and Mits. website all say it's a 1 year warranty.
post #32 of 2606
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Originally Posted by Reid_T View Post

I just received my HD1000U yesterday, and watched "The 5th Element" last night. I'm blown away. I can't find anything to complain about.

My current setup is pretty crude (will improve over the next few weeks as more equipment shows up.) I don't have a screen yet, so I'm just projecting on a blank wall, textured and painted a dark gold color. I don't have a progressive DVD player yet, and just used component video cables to hook an old Sony DVD player directly to the projector.

My expectations for this temporary arrangement were extremely low, but from 14 feet, with a 120" picture, it still looked extremely good. I certainly don't expect it to get worse with a screen, decent DVD player, etc.

I have a 100% light-controlled room, and can easily use low-power mode, even, to some degree, with the lights on. Currently, the pj and DVD are sitting right next to me on the sectional, and I can't hear the fan if there's any audio on the movie at all. Its slightly more noticable in high-power mode, but once its hanging from the ceiling I don't expect I'll be able to hear it.

A comment about the warranty: I've heard a lot of people complain that Mitsubishi only offer a 1 year warranty. But sitting here reading the -Mitsubishi- warranty, it says there is a 3-year factory warranty on the projector, and a 90-day warranty on the bulb. As far as I can tell, a 3-year warranty is pretty close to a "lifetime" warranty.

Regarding the offset: this is not a problem for me, I was planning on hanging it from a 10' ceiling. But I did the algebra anyway. If I did the math correctly, for a ceiling mount, there's about a ~6.5 degree offset to the top of the screen, and ~24.5 degree offset to the bottom of the screen. It turns out this is just about perfect for my theater, so I find it hard to complain about it. :-)

Overall: bright, quiet, sharp, great contrast/blacks, great color, good warranty. I'd highly recommend this projector. As I get the ht built out, I'll post more comments/pics.

-Reid

According to other posts, your offset will be about 33% of the screen height. If your screen height is 54" the distance from the center of the lens to the top of the screen will be about 18". (Assuming a ceiling mount). Not sure how that translates to the 6.5 degrees you quoted in your post. Does the manual use degrees to describe the offset?

I am interested in this projector and since you have one in hand, maybe you could measure the actual distances relative to screen height from the center of the lens. There appears to be a lot of us interested in exactly how much the offset is. Would appreciate any further comments you have regarding this issue.

Thank you for your post.

Henry
post #33 of 2606
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Originally Posted by hmcewin View Post

According to other posts, your offset will be about 33% of the screen height. If your screen height is 54" the distance from the center of the lens to the top of the screen will be about 18".

Wow, if that's the case, I hope the keystone works well and doesn't destroy the image. I'm looking at a 26" drop from the top of the ceiling, and don't think I want that much.
post #34 of 2606
anymore Candian resellers recommendations? Hopefully someone from Ontario
post #35 of 2606
The 3-year warranty applies to most PJ but not HD1000U as the PDF from Mits website clearly excludes HD1000U from the 3 year and only 1 year with 90D bulb warranty.
post #36 of 2606
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Originally Posted by rawb01 View Post

I hope this doesn't violate forum rules, but we Canadians have fewer options. I was told by Mits Canada to contact their distributor, Precor Consumer Electronics, who directed me to Absolute Audio Video (in Calgary): absoluteaudio.ca.

I have yet to hear back, but perhaps you will have more luck than I. Let me know...

I talked to a Mitsubishi dealer in Toronto today, and he said that Precor (and Mitsubishi Canada?) will have a meeting on Monday to discuss the pricing of the HD1000. My dealer said that if Precor doesn't lower the price to reflect the US price drop, then he won't even carry the HD1000, as he won't be able to compete with US dealers with a $500 price difference.
post #37 of 2606
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Originally Posted by Jim McC View Post

Mits. dealer sites and Mits. website all say it's a 1 year warranty.

Yes, I agree - I don't have an explanation. But I do have a warranty statement in my grubby little hands from Mitsubishi that clearly states I have a 3 year warranty. So I have to assume I do.

Perhaps the explanation is that the Mitsubishi web site is wrong (which would then mislead dealers). If you look at the Mitsubishi Home Theater web site for the HD1000U (where they state the 1 year warranty), and download the "Product Specification Sheet", you may note that the title of the sheet is "HD1000U XGA DLP projector." Its clearly an WXGA format. Near the top of page two, they list the resolution as "1280 x 720 (Total 921,600 pixels), 600 Video lines". 600?

When I first started researching this unit, these errors concerned me a bit, but I finally wrote them off as an editing and/or translation error - or a misguided attempt to reuse marketing info from an XGA projector.

I'd be curious to hear from other owners on this topic. Or better yet, do OEM's bother to read these forums?

-Reid
post #38 of 2606
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Originally Posted by hmcewin View Post

According to other posts, your offset will be about 33% of the screen height. If your screen height is 54" the distance from the center of the lens to the top of the screen will be about 18". (Assuming a ceiling mount). Not sure how that translates to the 6.5 degrees you quoted in your post. Does the manual use degrees to describe the offset?

I am interested in this projector and since you have one in hand, maybe you could measure the actual distances relative to screen height from the center of the lens. There appears to be a lot of us interested in exactly how much the offset is. Would appreciate any further comments you have regarding this issue.

Henry

The manual only gives a slightly larger table than what is available on the web site. I just did the trig to calculate the angles. Its all consistent with 33%, which turns out to be just about perfect for my room. So I've been assuming that their table is correct, but (given my last post) I'm thinking I might want to check against what the projector actually does. I'll give this a try in the next few days and let you know what I find out.

In the meantime, I'm going to watch a few more movies!!

-Reid
post #39 of 2606
Thanks Reid. I would like to know the actual measurement. Enjoy your new machine and when you get time give us a rundown on the offset.

This looks like my next machine. I have a nine ft. ceiling and a 110 inch screen which will put the top of the screen at twenty four inches from the ceiling.

Thanks.
post #40 of 2606
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Originally Posted by hmcewin View Post

Thanks Reid. I would like to know the actual measurement. Enjoy your new machine and when you get time give us a rundown on the offset.

This looks like my next machine. I have a nine ft. ceiling and a 110 inch screen which will put the top of the screen at twenty four inches from the ceiling.

Thanks.

I spent a few minutes and did some measurements. I put the projector on a coffee table, with the center of the lens at 17.5" above the floor, about 113" from the wall. Caveats - the flooring is a dense pile carpet, so my measurements could be off by .25"-.50". I didn't try to be more accurate than about .25". I also assumed that the table is relatively level, and that the unit is level to the table when all the feet are fully retracted. FWIW...

At maximum zoom, I get an image that is 40.5" in height, 30'5" above the floor. This is an offset of 13", or about 32% of the image height.

At minimum zoom, I get an image that is 33.25" in height, 28" above the floor. This is an offset of 10.5", or about 31.6% of the image height.

So, given my quick, non-scientific measurements, it looks like 33% is pretty accurate. For smaller screens (< 80"), it seems to me that table-mounting is pretty reasonable. The manual does say you can tilt the projector up to 15 degrees, perhaps this would help in table-mounting for larger screens. Well, actually, what it says is that tilting more than +-15 degrees could lead to bulb explosion. But I think that moderate use of the adjustment legs could help mitigate the offset for larger, table-mounted uses.

Hope this is helpful.

-Reid
post #41 of 2606
I can't believe how well this PJ handles (and cleans up) a crappy SD feed of hockey.

Had it on for 3 minutes but wow! Have had X-1, LT-260, SP4805, Ht510, PT-L500u, XR-10X, and HT1100 over the past 3.5 years.

This is a keeper!
post #42 of 2606
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Originally Posted by nnci View Post

I can't believe how well this PJ handles (and cleans up) a crappy SD feed of hockey.

Had it on for 3 minutes but wow! Have had X-1, LT-260, SP4805, Ht510, PT-L500u, XR-10X, and HT1100 over the past 3.5 years.

This is a keeper!

I have the NEC HT510 and am reasonably happy with the picture. Even after 2200 hours on the lamp, it is still very bright on eco mode. Before buying the 510 I tried the Panny 700 and the 510 was as good or better with better black levels for a third of the price.

How would you compare your 510 to the Mits 1000?

Thanks.

Henry
post #43 of 2606
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Originally Posted by Reid_T View Post

I spent a few minutes and did some measurements. I put the projector on a coffee table, with the center of the lens at 17.5" above the floor, about 113" from the wall. Caveats - the flooring is a dense pile carpet, so my measurements could be off by .25"-.50". I didn't try to be more accurate than about .25". I also assumed that the table is relatively level, and that the unit is level to the table when all the feet are fully retracted. FWIW...

At maximum zoom, I get an image that is 40.5" in height, 30'5" above the floor. This is an offset of 13", or about 32% of the image height.

At minimum zoom, I get an image that is 33.25" in height, 28" above the floor. This is an offset of 10.5", or about 31.6% of the image height.

So, given my quick, non-scientific measurements, it looks like 33% is pretty accurate. For smaller screens (< 80"), it seems to me that table-mounting is pretty reasonable. The manual does say you can tilt the projector up to 15 degrees, perhaps this would help in table-mounting for larger screens. Well, actually, what it says is that tilting more than +-15 degrees could lead to bulb explosion. But I think that moderate use of the adjustment legs could help mitigate the offset for larger, table-mounted uses.

Hope this is helpful.

-Reid

Thanks Reid. Your measurements are very helpful.

Henry
post #44 of 2606
I just bought the hd1000u and my throw distance will be 13', screen size 100", viewing distance 13'. My ceilings are 8'. I was going to mount the projector at about the 6 1/2 to 7' range from the ceiling. My screen will be about 16 inches from the floor. Will this work out ok? I looked at the projector calculator and the throw, screen size and viewing distance seem to be right, I am just worried that the way it will be mounted from the ceiling will be alright. Any help with be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
post #45 of 2606
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Originally Posted by hmcewin View Post

I have the NEC HT510 and am reasonably happy with the picture. Even after 2200 hours on the lamp, it is still very bright on eco mode. Before buying the 510 I tried the Panny 700 and the 510 was as good or better with better black levels for a third of the price.

How would you compare your 510 to the Mits 1000?

Thanks.

Henry


The 1000 blows the 510 away in all areas thus far. Haven't tried the de-interlacer yet, the 510 had a realy good one. Nice to see another "old timer" in the thread!
post #46 of 2606
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Originally Posted by nnci View Post

The 1000 blows the 510 away in all areas thus far. Haven't tried the de-interlacer yet, the 510 had a realy good one. Nice to see another "old timer" in the thread!

Thanks,

Henry
post #47 of 2606
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Originally Posted by tqn View Post

I talked to a Mitsubishi dealer in Toronto today, and he said that Precor (and Mitsubishi Canada?) will have a meeting on Monday to discuss the pricing of the HD1000. My dealer said that if Precor doesn't lower the price to reflect the US price drop, then he won't even carry the HD1000, as he won't be able to compete with US dealers with a $500 price difference.

Thanks for the heads up. Pending the outcome of said meeting, there may be no choice but to go with the HD70, although I would prefer to have the choice...
post #48 of 2606
you can get the hc1100 in canada it's even better.
eastporters dot comm is one place that has it
post #49 of 2606
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you can get the hc1100 in canada it's even better.
eastporters dot comm is one place that has it

The HC1100 (can't even find it on projector central and this site can't even be bothered to list it's native resolution) is roughly $500 more than a optima hd70 and is the same lumen number, 1000. So why would i want one?
post #50 of 2606
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Originally Posted by dreamstate View Post

The HC1100 (can't even find it on projector central and this site can't even be bothered to list it's native resolution) is roughly $500 more than a optima hd70 and is the same lumen number, 1000. So why would i want one?

Don't quote me on any of this, and feel free to correct me if I'm wrong: I don't believe it is being imported into the States, hence its absence from PC. I understand that it has much in common with the HD1000 (resolution for example; although I have seen 768 floating around in these forums, all documentation and reviews I have read stated 720), but differences include the lack of a clear segment in the wheel. This has some benefits, but is responsible, at least in part, for the resultant reduction in output. If you need the lumens, however, I suppose the 1000 is the only option.

I have seen the 1000 online, in Canada, for only slightly less, so the price is not unreasonable. If prices were equal, I would daresay that the HC1100 is the middle ground between the HD1000 and the HD70.

That said, I still want to know pricing for the 1000, as I don't see a cut on the 1100 coming.
post #51 of 2606
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Originally Posted by nnci View Post

I can't believe how well this PJ handles (and cleans up) a crappy SD feed of hockey.

Had it on for 3 minutes but wow! Have had X-1, LT-260, SP4805, Ht510, PT-L500u, XR-10X, and HT1100 over the past 3.5 years.

This is a keeper!


Being a SP4805 owner, how does the HD1000's black level and shadow detail compare? I currently own a SP4805, and I'm thinking of upgrading to the 4805, but I'm worried about the HD1000's white segment affecting black level and constrast. My other choice is the HD3000, but it's ~$500 more.
post #52 of 2606
I have a 12 foot ceiling does that mean I have to lower the projector to around 8 feet to use it on a 100" screen. The room is 28 x 28 but I have sloped walls. Are there any mounts that I could use for the walls. Assuming I that the average bottom of the screen is mounted 2- 2.5 feet above the floor
post #53 of 2606
For all you HD1000U owners out there. I am planning on buying the HD1000U very soon and was wondering what type of screen to use. I want an inexpensive motorized screen and am probably going to get an Elite, unless anyone knows if there is a better motorized screen available at the price of an Elite. Should I get a white or gray screen? I will be using the projector in a light controlled room, but I would like to be able to watch with some ambient light on. Plus my ceiling is white and my walls and carpet will be neutral colors (multi-purpose room).

Second, I want to check my figures for the offset. From the other posts I read, it seems like the offset is approx 33%. So if my ceiling is 8 feet and I am using a 100" screen, does that mean the bottom of my screen will be approx 24" from the ground (assuming the projector lense will mount 6" from ceiling)?

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, MIZZOU.
post #54 of 2606
I've had my HD1000u for a couple of weeks; previous projector was BenQ PB6200. I am extremely happy with the new projector (it is hard to over-state that). Loved the BenQ, but this is definitely a nice step up, in terms of better black level, native widescreen, smaller pixels, and fan noise with low lamp setting. Just delighted!

Very simple set-up projecting 145"diagonal onto a white wall, watching from about 16 feet back, room not light controlled so wait until dark to watch movies (that's one advantage of early sunset times in the winter!
post #55 of 2606
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Originally Posted by tustinfarm View Post

I've had my HD1000u for a couple of weeks; previous projector was BenQ PB6200. I am extremely happy with the new projector (it is hard to over-state that). Loved the BenQ, but this is definitely a nice step up, in terms of better black level, native widescreen, smaller pixels, and fan noise with low lamp setting. Just delighted!

Very simple set-up projecting 145"diagonal onto a white wall, watching from about 16 feet back, room not light controlled so wait until dark to watch movies (that's one advantage of early sunset times in the winter!

Man, I really appreciate your feedback on the HD1000u as my viewing environment, desired image size, and throw distance are all pretty close to yours. What's your throw distance if you're watching from about 16 feet? My pj will be at 17' and viewing will be around 15'.

My last concern w/ this pj is the fact that I really need to do a shelf mount in the back of the room behind the seating instead of ceiling. That means it would have to be mounted on the bottom of a shelf pretty high up. I have a 10' ceiling but not sure if an inverted shelf mount around 9' would work.
post #56 of 2606
There doesn't seem to be a price cut on the Canadian end for at least until Jan '07.

Was considering the HC1100 but it's $500 more than a HD1000U that I can obtain from the US. To me being a projector newbie and a cheapskate I can't justify the difference.

How good is Mitsu warranty? Had anyone had to warranty a Mitsu projector before?

I have only read positive things about this projector any negatives?


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Originally Posted by rawb01 View Post

Don't quote me on any of this, and feel free to correct me if I'm wrong: I don't believe it is being imported into the States, hence its absence from PC. I understand that it has much in common with the HD1000 (resolution for example; although I have seen 768 floating around in these forums, all documentation and reviews I have read stated 720), but differences include the lack of a clear segment in the wheel. This has some benefits, but is responsible, at least in part, for the resultant reduction in output. If you need the lumens, however, I suppose the 1000 is the only option.

I have seen the 1000 online, in Canada, for only slightly less, so the price is not unreasonable. If prices were equal, I would daresay that the HC1100 is the middle ground between the HD1000 and the HD70.

That said, I still want to know pricing for the 1000, as I don't see a cut on the 1100 coming.
post #57 of 2606
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Originally Posted by tustinfarm View Post

I've had my HD1000u for a couple of weeks; previous projector was BenQ PB6200. I am extremely happy with the new projector (it is hard to over-state that). Loved the BenQ, but this is definitely a nice step up, in terms of better black level, native widescreen, smaller pixels, and fan noise with low lamp setting. Just delighted!

Very simple set-up projecting 145"diagonal onto a white wall, watching from about 16 feet back, room not light controlled so wait until dark to watch movies (that's one advantage of early sunset times in the winter!


Hey, could you share some thoughts on the performance of your new mitsu? How was the SD so far? What DVD are you using? I read a review that the HD1000u scaler performs well in scaling a standard SD source of 480p to it's native reso. Is it? Sure, HD is great but I'm interested on how this baby display 480p from ordinary DVD without a fancy DCDi or de-interlacer.
post #58 of 2606
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Originally Posted by icculus631 View Post

I have a 12 foot ceiling does that mean I have to lower the projector to around 8 feet to use it on a 100" screen. The room is 28 x 28 but I have sloped walls. Are there any mounts that I could use for the walls. Assuming I that the average bottom of the screen is mounted 2- 2.5 feet above the floor

You might want to check out this thread

HD1000U Ceiling Mount
post #59 of 2606
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Originally Posted by StormyQ View Post

Man, I really appreciate your feedback on the HD1000u as my viewing environment, desired image size, and throw distance are all pretty close to yours. What's your throw distance if you're watching from about 16 feet? My pj will be at 17' and viewing will be around 15'.

My last concern w/ this pj is the fact that I really need to do a shelf mount in the back of the room behind the seating instead of ceiling. That means it would have to be mounted on the bottom of a shelf pretty high up. I have a 10' ceiling but not sure if an inverted shelf mount around 9' would work.

My projector is 17.3 feet back from wall, so with zoom maxed out I get 145" diagonal. Projector is not mounted - just sitting on piece of furniture in the back of room; haven't measured height but maybe 30 inches from floor. Have to use the projector feet to tilt it down a little - I suppose there is keystoning in theory, but it is not obvious to me, so I am not going to get out the measuring tape for fear it would then bother me ;>. Yes, this setup is quite primitive, so would be troubling for the "serious theatre" folks out there, but I am delighted with the movie watching experience.
post #60 of 2606
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Originally Posted by cyberianman View Post

Hey, could you share some thoughts on the performance of your new mitsu? How was the SD so far? What DVD are you using? I read a review that the HD1000u scaler performs well in scaling a standard SD source of 480p to it's native reso. Is it? Sure, HD is great but I'm interested on how this baby display 480p from ordinary DVD without a fancy DCDi or de-interlacer.

Compared to my BenQ PB6200 (XGA), performance with SD material is much better. The BenQ has just awful composite and S-video input performance, so I suppose almost any projector would be better than that. Currently watching DVDs using PC with PowerDVD software, with resolution matched to the PJ (1280 X 720). Normally watch HD content from a Sony DVR (HDD500), and quality is phenomenal through either HDMI or component. Have experimented with feeding it the test patterns recorded from HDNet, using either 720p or 1080i output from the DVR, and it looks like 720p is just a hair better in resolution....but it is SO close. Also, in very brief comparisons between component and HDMI inputs it looks very close - I need to do some more comparisons between the two before rendering a final opinion, and also this is as much a comparsion of the DVR output quality from component versus HDMI so would be hard to call this a scientific experiment.

Brief testing with a cheapie DVD player (Cyberhome DVD recorder) feeding it component video, looks quite good, and I believe the 480i looked a little better than 480p from the DVD - again all this says is that the projector does a better job of de-interlacing than than the Cyberhome player. I think that PC is still better for watching DVDs - but I can't emphasize this enough - the DVD player I used might be a real "dog" so I would guess getting a decent DVD player with HDMI might give me a good match to the PC quality.

So, yes, these are all very qualitative observations so far, but WOW, this is an amazing device to have for watching DVDs or HD content, depite it being an "entry level" PJ. Hard to believe there isn't some kind of law against this kind of thing, it is that good ;>.
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