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Thanks. lol on the SDE vs beer formula. We only had 2 beers each the whole night but we did order an extra large pizza. Does pepperoni affect SDE judgement ? because I think I was over the limit at 4 slices


Well I guess I would pay the difference since I've decided to buy the 810.

After seeing what it can do and how exceptionally well it does it I have no problem with paying it's price and feeling like it's well worth it. If you factor Epsons longer warranty with overnight replacement service, better lens, build quality, D5+ panels the value starts to add up. It will certainly be worth more used than an AX100 or Z5 should I decide to sell it later to upgrade.

Do I wish it was less? Sure, I also wish our grocery bill this week was half what it was, but I still paid it.

An AX100 or Z5 is 50% more than an HD70 or HD1000, some people buy them anyways because they offer something the others don't. This is no different.

We all have to individually decide what we want out of a projector and at what point it corresponds to our budget. I know the price difference won't change my life, but I also know if I don't buy it and settle for less, every time I watch a movie I'll wish I had spent the extra money and got what the better picture because that's what my eyes will see every time. Call it piece of mind.

That's just my thoughts, nothing more.


He was very impressed with it, said the SDE was significantly less noticeable on the 810. He thought blacks were on par with the Z5, but 810 had a certain clarity and crispness he couldn't get over. Kept saying 'oh man look at that'. He was never really a brightness junkie before last night either, but I think he's hooked now. I say this because the 3 of us that don't currently own 810's called eachother to see if we can get a better deal for 3 of them, lol. We'll see how it plays out.

Hmmm the Ax100, I'm glad I got it through costco again. Returning it shouldn't be a problem at all. They're really great about it but I'd hate to abuse their policy, I may need it again someday. Something inside me tells me it's wrong to open the box and mess with it if I already know I don't want to keep it, so I'll probably return it unopened so they can resell it.


I would say around 8 feet was visible, then became more and more difficult to make out the farther back you went. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised that Epson got this right without compromising the image sharpness. You can always slightly defocus the lens by 1 or 2mm to get rid of it completely, but at least you have the choice with the 810.

Guys, Just for information, when I bought my TW700 in Hong Kong I called Epson's warranty line. I checked the serial number and they said that they give 2 years local warranty(which is extendable). They also told me That if I take the projector home to the USA that they would give a full one year international warranty. I figure even if I exceed the year, and then have a problem I can always send it back to HK for service. Worst case is I save over 1200usd on the PJ. I only risk having to maybe mail it for a cost of $125usd. But even that is really unlikely given the Epson quality control. Bulbs are also available on Ebay and elsewhere for around 250, which as I understand is not too bad. Also ther is no duty on projectors imported to the USA.

I could check with the forum powers to see if I can set up a group buy if you guys are interested.

Well said Joe, my feelings exactly.

My only question would be whether I'd be able to work the menu in Japanese

That certainly seems to be the case. Seems like if they adjusted their price just a little and opened up some more distribution channels that they could sell a bunch.

Mine is in Engrish...... I mean English.....been here too long!
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Seriously? Can you tell us where we can order from to import an English language model? I'd do it.

They all support multiple languages, including English.

There's a place to get a good price which imports from Japan, but I don't think we're allowed to mention its name

That site also mentions that this model has an English menu (some projectors on that site indicate Japanese only menu).

Joe,
Any iris issues, being able to see it "pumping/breathing" as some have mentioned with the other DI pjs?

SO....
How do you guys think this epson would best be set up?

I am leaning toward a stewart firehawk at around 1.35 gain. I have good light control, but the side walls are close and I want it to reject light. Also, What sort of height do you think would be best for the PJ vs screen? Viewing distance is about 13-14feet but I think that the PJ is supposed to be level with the top of the screen or lower? How high should I set the screen height? I found a chinese company that builds PJ lifts for cheap and they have a sollid manufacturing background at least by appearances,......I am going to go check them out and see if they can make something work for me......Push one button and pose like Dr Evil as all the widgets and gadgets spring to life, screen descends and the "LASER"...ahem "projector" lowers..
mmmmmm Toys
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Yes. It has a ton of language options. the manual is in a bunch of languages also. The TW700 has the exact same internals as the 810. It says it in the USA 810's manual. I am pretty sure it defaults to english (or mine was dealer preset to english)
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I'm pretty sure all of the Epson 810's internationaly have a language choice menu where you can pick English, Japanese etc.. I think there's really only 2 differences, the outside casing is black in the US the other is white and I would guess the remote would be in whatever language.

I don't know this for sure, maybe SuperFly can confirm.

My remote is english. Almost everything here AV is english. Even my stereo uses USA shapped plugs( but 220 volts). The TW700 was made for Europe Australia etc. English is the universal language.....at least for now!

Joe is right. except I think all the remotes are english. At least they are in Hong Kong. There is one more difference. The power cord that is included is a UK style cord. But it is a fully detachable IEC standard plug so it costs $5 to replace at radio shack or whatever. The TW700 is fully multi voltage and takes NTSC PAL SECAM in every flavour. Also another differance is that the TW700 has a japanese SCART connection added. This is useless, but it is in addition to the US models connections ( I think). It doesnt have any less connections than the 810.
I do know that you can get scart to component video adapters, which may be usefull for another connection option.to avoid a switcher if you wanted to hook up say a PS2 or something.

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Seem's Epson's dual iris in the 810 works very well. We never heard or noticed it. We threw quite a few space scenes at it from Star Wars ROTS and Star Trek Nemisis with the iris on. At the beginning of Nemesis there's a space scene where the Enterprise pan's into the screen getting bigger until it almost fills the screen (picture an 8 ft bright white Enterprise on a 10 foot screen),but there's still some space and stars around it. It's a good iris test for an LCD to see what happens to the blacks and stars in the background. In lesser lcd projectors the black looks grey and you notice the iris trying to adjust the image and you'll lose stars and detail. It was seamless on the 810 and the blacks stayed black.

This seems to be inline with Art's review at projectorreviews of the 800(has a single iris) last year where he said it's real competition wasn't other LCD projectors but DC3 DLPs instead. He also compared it to a $14500 Marantz VP12S4 DLP.

Supa,
I think the Firehawk would be awesome! It would lower the blacks and still have some gain to make it really pop.

If I'm not mistaken, it has a 100% vertical lens shift. If 0 position is center of screen, then on a 106" diagonal (52in high), wouldn't that allow you to put the pj 52in above center or 26" above the top of the screen? Or did I mess up the math?

[Edit] I'm looking at the manual right now. It doesn't give very good instructions on the lens shift/placement. It says that you should place it between the top and bottom of the screen or you'll have to use keystone.

Maybe I don't understand what 100% vertical lens shift means then?

Where are the intake/exhaust vents on this thing. It looks like a vent on the front, but I don't see one anywhere else.

Going from memory, but I'm quite certain the intake was at the bottom and exhaust through the front.

You have to realize that this projector basically just came out... As well, Epson projector purchases are not really considered mainstream either which doesn't help. You could purchase from Japan through an authorized dealer that offers a international warranty & purchase the ship-back option for fairly cheap.

I'm not totally sure where Epson originates but a North American manufacturer will not honor a Epson warranty from Japan unless you strick some sort of deal with them... but don't count on it at all.

Downfall from buying from Japan??? I'm asking myself that same question right now. I will most likely end up buying this from a Canadian retailer that imports it & I will purchase the 1 year shipback option. (free 1 year warranty as well)

I believe this projector supports all languages so that is not a issue. All of the dealers selling the TW700 (Jap. version) state it has english menus. The remote is also in english.

Not that its relevant to this thread, but according to a epson rep the 1080p will be out this year, at "just under/around 5,000"

i doubt you will see the 810 for much less then 3, if any. we were told thats what we have to sell it for. if a company lets there stuff get sold all over the internet in the us for low prices, the name gets run into the ground, and if any one can get them at a killer price, integration companys wont sell them. they have a name/image to keep up....but anyways

i too did not notice any SDE on the projector, but this was a 40 minute demo, 110" screen from like 14'. i didn't get much closer. we did see it playing on a HD-DVD and the picture was extemely bright and vibrant, very impressive.

The 800 was not set up in the demo for a comparison, but again according to the rep, the 810 is mostly a improvement in sharpness and contrast. the only other things i can say about this fp was that it has a very powerful zoom / lens shift, which is nice for installers, and a outstanding warranty. if your FP goes bad, they ship you a new one before they even have yours, absolutely NO dead pixels for 2 years. the only thing the warranty doesn't cover is the bulb, which is 90 days

can anyone confirm or deny if it comes with a extra bulb? ive heard it does, that helps some with the price

This is the new Epson 1080 projector
http://www.gizmodo.com/gadgets/home-...80p-217394.php

There an AVS thread for it already: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=734929

Guys,

I have noticed that even the authorized internet dealers require you to call in. You can't click and order they make you call. I can't remember if it was in this thread or another on, but even though Epson has very tight channels that they operate through sometimes you can catch an authorized internet dealer selling for MSRP and offering a 200-400 cash card bonus to purchase other electronic goodies. I have only seen this done once, but if has been done once it will be done again (hopefully anyway) Having said that I firmly believe that owing an Epson such as the 810 is at a 500-700 dollar premium over the "competition " The 400 however is pretty comparably priced within its particular class.

Regards,

RTROSE