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post #31 of 2150
11/29/06 at 12:56pm
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Originally Posted by Tigershark View Post

It is packaged in one big box and weighs over 100 lbs. It will not fit in a regular car in the original box (it barely fit in my SUV - the box is quite tall). If I remember correctly, it is packaged with a lot of styrofoam, but not smaller boxes. If you want to pick it up, you could just open the box, and take out the speakers and receivers and arrange the components in your trunk and backseat. The only really big piece is the subwoofer. It is quite large and weighs 30 lbs by itself. Still, all the pieces should fit IF they are taken out of the original box.

Note: All dimensions and weights are listed in the first post above.


Thanks. I did see the dimensions, but I recalled reading in another thread that the refurb'd accessories4less version came in one big box but had 3 smaller boxes inside. If that was the case I would be willing to take it out and shuffle it around a bit, but I don't know if i just want my speakers and receivers bouncing around in the trunk. I guess if I want it I'll just have to wait for it to ship.

I've been eyeballing the 590S as well, I might just get that since I don't really need a 7.1 system. It just looked like a good price.
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post #32 of 2150
11/29/06 at 1:02pm
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Bumsi, when I got to CC web site it says start price of $499.99. So frustrating....

Such is buying on the internet. For the record, the MSRP is $499. You can buy it somewhere for around $450 at any time. A good sale (maybe once a month) brings it down to about $420. And once in awhile, it hits $400. And once in a blue moon, it gets even lower than that. $330 is the lowest I have ever seen for an un-opened system. I bought mine for $360 about 2 months ago and I had waited over a year to get that price. Bottom line, just watch the pricing at your favorite website/store because the pricing bounces all over the place and you have to be ready to buy when the price drops to where you want it.

Best price right now at Circuit City: $500 - $80 instant - $50 Coupon (YEA2M45AGJ) - $30 Rebate = $340 + tax w/ free in-store pickup. That is a great price.
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post #33 of 2150
11/29/06 at 1:09pm
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Thanks. I did see the dimensions, but I recalled reading in another thread that the refurb'd accessories4less version came in one big box but had 3 smaller boxes inside. If that was the case I would be willing to take it out and shuffle it around a bit, but I don't know if i just want my speakers and receivers bouncing around in the trunk. I guess if I want it I'll just have to wait for it to ship.

I've been eyeballing the 590S as well, I might just get that since I don't really need a 7.1 system. It just looked like a good price.


When they sell for refurb'd, the styrofoam is probably long gone, so they re-package it in seperate boxes within the big box.

Be sure to read the threads on the 590S - they seem to have some problems (with thicker speaker wire) that the 790 doesn't have. Given the managable price difference, the better speakers, and the future-proofing of a 7.1 system, I would go with the 790, but that's me.
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post #34 of 2150
11/29/06 at 1:49pm
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Originally Posted by Tigershark View Post

When they sell for refurb'd, the styrofoam is probably long gone, so they re-package it in seperate boxes within the big box.

Be sure to read the threads on the 590S - they seem to have some problems (with thicker speaker wire) that the 790 doesn't have. Given the managable price difference, the better speakers, and the future-proofing of a 7.1 system, I would go with the 790, but that's me.


Yeah I read about those, but I thought I'd roll the dice on that one. Anyway, I ordered it for pickup -- not bad, $395 after taxes in Jersey, and I'll take the $30 if it ever comes but I'm not holding my break. I'm going to take the stuff out and put it in my back seat.

Hopefully I can somehow fit the empty box in my trunk in case I need to take this setup back. Maybe ill flatten it and tape it back up if i need to use it for a refund.

Maybe I can sell the extra surround speakers for a little money for stands and stuff.
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post #35 of 2150
11/29/06 at 2:21pm
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Originally Posted by n0rris View Post

Yeah I read about those, but I thought I'd roll the dice on that one. Anyway, I ordered it for pickup -- not bad, $395 after taxes in Jersey, and I'll take the $30 if it ever comes but I'm not holding my break. I'm going to take the stuff out and put it in my back seat.

Hopefully I can somehow fit the empty box in my trunk in case I need to take this setup back. Maybe ill flatten it and tape it back up if i need to use it for a refund.

Maybe I can sell the extra surround speakers for a little money for stands and stuff.

CC has been real good with rebates with me...I fill them out online and submit, they send confirmation and 4-6 weeks later cha-ching $$ Took a while to figure out how to do the online rebate though....grrrrrr!

$365.00 after rebate with NJ taxes is still a real good deal for this system IMO.
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post #36 of 2150
11/29/06 at 2:28pm
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Originally Posted by steen995 View Post

Bumsi, when I got to CC web site it says start price of $499.99. So frustrating....


Sorry, figured it out now. I didn't realize you still had to enter the coupon code. I've ordered it. Hopefully they'll let me return the other. What a joke to only offer the rebate with an on line order.


Call 1-800-843-2489 (option #2) explain the issue and demand their 110 % best price guarantee for the system you have now. Cancel the online oreder while you have them on the phone.
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post #37 of 2150
11/29/06 at 5:14pm
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Originally Posted by Bumsi View Post

Call 1-800-843-2489 (option #2) explain the issue and demand their 110 % best price guarantee for the system you have now. Cancel the online oreder while you have them on the phone.


Thank you Bumsi, finally got 'r done. I ordered, called Circuit City for the price match, which at first they claimed they couldn't do with the on line rebate. I pointed out that all they were doing was losing money by paying to ship because then I was just going to return the box back to them.... Sooo, supposedly I'm going to get a price match+ check. The wait is on. I'm trying not to get too excited.

Now I'm just excited to see what kind of calibration information this thread comes up with!
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post #38 of 2150
11/29/06 at 5:52pm
Well, just got back, it was a pain in the butt but I got the system home (CC guy helped me break the box down and take everything out to put in the back seat)

Took it home and I realized I have no optical cables to use Guess I need to wait a couple of days before I can put it through the paces. I'll be keeping my eye on this thread for any tips/advice, thanks to the previous page I already know the stands I want. Thanks!

--Oh, does anyone recommend using banana jacks or just bare wire? I was on monoprice buying cables and noticed the reviews for their banana jacks sucked, I'll probably stick with bare wire (16ga) unless anyone notices a difference.
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post #39 of 2150
11/29/06 at 6:53pm
Hey guys,
i got the 42" panasonic plasma during black friday and was thinking about bouncing on the silver version of this.. however, this unit does not have hdmi.. i think my TV has 2 hdmi-in (still sitting in the box, i just moved in) so that's not a big deal, right?

the last thing i want to do is have to swap cables when i want to switch from cable, dvd, xbox, wii...

thanks for educating this noob..

reading another thread it looks like the 894 might be a good choice too, but it doesn't come in silver! arg

also, any recommendations on a good dvd player to do with this? i'm so clueless when it comes with dts/dolby all that other stuff
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post #40 of 2150
11/30/06 at 1:03am
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Well, just got back, it was a pain in the butt but I got the system home (CC guy helped me break the box down and take everything out to put in the back seat)

Took it home and I realized I have no optical cables to use Guess I need to wait a couple of days before I can put it through the paces. I'll be keeping my eye on this thread for any tips/advice, thanks to the previous page I already know the stands I want. Thanks!

--Oh, does anyone recommend using banana jacks or just bare wire? I was on monoprice buying cables and noticed the reviews for their banana jacks sucked, I'll probably stick with bare wire (16ga) unless anyone notices a difference.

Congrats on the purchase. Once you get the optical cables, you are set.

As for speaker wire connections, I haven't had experience with Banana plugs, but I know there are some drawbacks with using them. Like I said earlier, you can go as thick as 14 ga wire without using Banana Plugs. Any thicker probably won't make much difference with these speakers. Your 16 ga is probably fine as well. Enjoy your new system!
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post #41 of 2150
11/30/06 at 1:12am
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Originally Posted by young24601 View Post

Hey guys,
i got the 42" panasonic plasma during black friday and was thinking about bouncing on the silver version of this.. however, this unit does not have hdmi.. i think my TV has 2 hdmi-in (still sitting in the box, i just moved in) so that's not a big deal, right?

the last thing i want to do is have to swap cables when i want to switch from cable, dvd, xbox, wii...

thanks for educating this noob..

reading another thread it looks like the 894 might be a good choice too, but it doesn't come in silver! arg

also, any recommendations on a good dvd player to do with this? i'm so clueless when it comes with dts/dolby all that other stuff


The lack of HDMI inputs or outputs concerned me at first, but then I realized that I would run HDMI from my source (say DVD player) to my plasma, and a seperate digital audio cable to the receiver. So no problem. You just can't find a true HDMI receiver for this kind of money (the few in this price range are just a pass-through, which is basically worthless). The included receiver gives you four digital inputs (1 coaxial, 3 digital), which is more than some other systems in this price range. I have my DVD (coaxial), cable box (optical) and PS2 (optical) hooked up via digital cable, so I have one more available.

On a side note, the Nintendo Wii uses red/white (no digital) audio out - say what?

The best choice of DVD player will depend on your display, so check out the DVD player forum for suggestions. I have been pleased with my Sony DVP-NC85H upconverting DVD 5 disc changer - one of the few out there.
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post #42 of 2150
11/30/06 at 7:12am
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Originally Posted by Tigershark View Post

The lack of HDMI inputs or outputs concerned me at first, but then I realized that I would run HDMI from my source (say DVD player) to my plasma, and a seperate digital audio cable to the receiver. So no problem. You just can't find a true HDMI receiver for this kind of money (the few in this price range are just a pass-through, which is basically worthless). The included receiver gives you four digital inputs (1 coaxial, 3 digital), which is more than some other systems in this price range. I have my DVD (coaxial), cable box (optical) and PS2 (optical) hooked up via digital cable, so I have one more available.

On a side note, the Nintendo Wii uses red/white (no digital) audio out - say what?

The best choice of DVD player will depend on your display, so check out the DVD player forum for suggestions. I have been pleased with my Sony DVP-NC85H upconverting DVD 5 disc changer - one of the few out there.

awesome, thanks for the input!

in for one silver one

it's funny, before BF i was just going to get whatever TV i could for 500 bucks.. now i've spent 1200 on the TV (i got the BB additional warranty) and now another 350 on this and i guess i'll have to pick up a bunch of cables from monoprice

same thing happened when i was replacing my headphones.. wanted something for 50 bucks, ended up getting something for 200

gotta stop navigating the tubes of this internet thing
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post #43 of 2150
11/30/06 at 7:29am
The Wii comes shipped with the standard RCA (composite) Cables. You can order the Component ones online from the official Nintendo website, but good luck finding them. None have shipped to any B&M's yet, so they are pretty hard to come by right now.

I'm actually in a dilemma over this system. I wanted to get the 790S, but I noticed it does not come with HDMI connections. I noticed the 894 has HDMI, but it's only 5.1 surround sound. The 907 has HDMI like the 894, and 7.1 surround like the 790. Only thing is, it's about $500 more than what CC is offering the 790.

I was originally looking for more component inputs since my Samsung plasma only has 2. I have an Xbox, 360, Wii, and they are all using the component cables, and they are run through the wall. You can't imagine the pain it is to unplug and replug these things in when I want to use them. Especially when you can't see anything. I noticed that most component switch boxes were $200+ and not very nice looking.

I also plan on getting a PS3 and my cable box is connected via HDMI, so that leaves me with only one HDMI port available.

I was planning to replace my surround system anyway. I'm using the a 5 year old Sony dream system that has worked great for years, but I figured with a new plasma, might as well get a real surround system. I can always move the Sony into the bedroom.

So basically, do I go for the 790s , where I'd eventually have to get an HDMI swticher as well as a DVD player to go along with it, or do I just bite the bullet with the 907 and get it over with? The lack of the 7.1 on the 894 puts it out of the running unless someone can justify it.

Advice?
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post #44 of 2150
11/30/06 at 7:31am
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Originally Posted by young24601 View Post

awesome, thanks for the input!

in for one silver one

it's funny, before BF i was just going to get whatever TV i could for 500 bucks.. now i've spent 1200 on the TV (i got the BB additional warranty) and now another 350 on this and i guess i'll have to pick up a bunch of cables from monoprice

same thing happened when i was replacing my headphones.. wanted something for 50 bucks, ended up getting something for 200

gotta stop navigating the tubes of this internet thing

I will say this for Monoprice, their cables are fantastic quality and low priced to boot. You can't go wrong with them.

I know how you feel. I was originally looking for a component switch box, and now I'm looking at a whole new surround system!!
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post #45 of 2150
11/30/06 at 8:16am
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Originally Posted by akumaxv View Post

The Wii comes shipped with the standard RCA (composite) Cables. You can order the Component ones online from the official Nintendo website, but good luck finding them. None have shipped to any B&M's yet, so they are pretty hard to come by right now.

I'm actually in a dilemma over this system. I wanted to get the 790S, but I noticed it does not come with HDMI connections. I noticed the 894 has HDMI, but it's only 5.1 surround sound. The 907 has HDMI like the 894, and 7.1 surround like the 790. Only thing is, it's about $500 more than what CC is offering the 790.

I was originally looking for more component inputs since my Samsung plasma only has 2. I have an Xbox, 360, Wii, and they are all using the component cables, and they are run through the wall. You can't imagine the pain it is to unplug and replug these things in when I want to use them. Especially when you can't see anything. I noticed that most component switch boxes were $200+ and not very nice looking.

I also plan on getting a PS3 and my cable box is connected via HDMI, so that leaves me with only one HDMI port available.

I was planning to replace my surround system anyway. I'm using the a 5 year old Sony dream system that has worked great for years, but I figured with a new plasma, might as well get a real surround system. I can always move the Sony into the bedroom.

So basically, do I go for the 790s , where I'd eventually have to get an HDMI swticher as well as a DVD player to go along with it, or do I just bite the bullet with the 907 and get it over with? The lack of the 7.1 on the 894 puts it out of the running unless someone can justify it.

Advice?

Well, from looking at the specs, it looks like getting the 907 buys you basically 1 additional HDMI port (2 on the receiver, which takes up 1 on the TV). So I don't know if it's worth it, unless the speakers are also leaps and bounds ahead or you get other features that you may need. I recall reading that the HDMI standard might be changing soon as well, so wait until you run out of HDMI ports and then just get a switcher sounds like it would be a good plan.

Also, I got a component video switcher (its called a game console switcher) from EB or ToysRUs, it was only like 20-30 bucks made by Pelican. It doesn't do any fancy audio switching, only RCA so I don't know if it's for you.
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post #46 of 2150
11/30/06 at 10:01am
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Originally Posted by steen995 View Post

Thank you Bumsi, finally got 'r done. I ordered, called Circuit City for the price match, which at first they claimed they couldn't do with the on line rebate. I pointed out that all they were doing was losing money by paying to ship because then I was just going to return the box back to them.... Sooo, supposedly I'm going to get a price match+ check. The wait is on. I'm trying not to get too excited.

Now I'm just excited to see what kind of calibration information this thread comes up with!

Glad it worked out for you. I think you will find that CC will honor their commitment to send your check. It is always good to see someone get a good deal. It's even better to get one yourself.

Yeah, I'm hoping for some good info here also. Did you check out the stands I posted earlier? Jakeman also posted some banana plugs for $2.85 a pair which will allow for large speaker wires if needed.

Good luck
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post #47 of 2150
11/30/06 at 11:41am
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Originally Posted by n0rris View Post

Well, from looking at the specs, it looks like getting the 907 buys you basically 1 additional HDMI port (2 on the receiver, which takes up 1 on the TV). So I don't know if it's worth it, unless the speakers are also leaps and bounds ahead or you get other features that you may need. I recall reading that the HDMI standard might be changing soon as well, so wait until you run out of HDMI ports and then just get a switcher sounds like it would be a good plan.

Also, I got a component video switcher (its called a game console switcher) from EB or ToysRUs, it was only like 20-30 bucks made by Pelican. It doesn't do any fancy audio switching, only RCA so I don't know if it's for you.

HDMI switching
I agree that, for now, paying more for a receiver with HDMI switching is probably not worth it. I was going to wait it out, let the new HDMI standard (1.3?) become more widespread, and buy a "real" audio system then. Right now, these receivers still have composite and S-Video inputs taking up space.

If you really need a HDMI switch, here are two highly rated ones from Monoprice:

2-way Manual HDMI switch - $29 + shipping

5-way HDMI with equalizer and remote - $113 + shipping

Since my Plasma has only one HDMI input, I am thinking about the 5-way switch further down the road when I get more HDMI devices.


Component switching

Don't forget that the included receiver with the 790 does Component switching (but not component up-converting). That means you can plug three sets of component video inputs (with matching red/white or digital audio) into the receiver, then one set of component cables to your display. I don't, because I would rather run the video straight to the display rather than add another step in the process, but if you don't have enough component inputs on your display, this is an option.
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post #48 of 2150
11/30/06 at 12:53pm
Im about to pull the trigger on this system
Just trying to figure out where to install it when I get it
what kind of wall mounts should I get ???
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post #49 of 2150
11/30/06 at 1:18pm
Does anyone has this set hooked to any of the up-converting DVD players? Im picking this up for my new home and am thinking of getting a up-converting DVD player. My TV is a 2 yr old 57" RPHDTV Hitachi S500.

So from one of the posters above, if I do get a upconverting DVD player with HDMI, I can hook the DVD player directly to my TV using HDMI and then use a optical cable from the player to the receiver?

Thx
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post #50 of 2150
11/30/06 at 4:25pm
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Does anyone has this set hooked to any of the up-converting DVD players? Im picking this up for my new home and am thinking of getting a up-converting DVD player. My TV is a 2 yr old 57" RPHDTV Hitachi S500.

So from one of the posters above, if I do get a upconverting DVD player with HDMI, I can hook the DVD player directly to my TV using HDMI and then use a optical cable from the player to the receiver?

Thx
F

That's what I'm doing for my sony upconvert dvd player. Actually I'm running digtal coax into my 990 from the dvd player, optical from my HD box, and optical from my 360. HDMI from the dvd player straight to my tv. Works and sounds great.
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post #51 of 2150
11/30/06 at 5:50pm
After looking it the manual, is it correct that the speaker level settings disappear each time you go to standby? Do you have to redo it everytime you turn the system on??
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post #52 of 2150
11/30/06 at 6:27pm
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That's what I'm doing for my sony upconvert dvd player. Actually I'm running digtal coax into my 990 from the dvd player, optical from my HD box, and optical from my 360. HDMI from the dvd player straight to my tv. Works and sounds great.

I have the exact same set-up (except a PS2 instead of a 360). HDMI from my Sony DVP-NC85H upconverting DVD changer to display, then digital coaxial from DVD, digital optical from cable box and PS2 to receiver. Sounds great!
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post #53 of 2150
11/30/06 at 6:37pm
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Originally Posted by Tigershark View Post

I have the exact same set-up (except a PS2 instead of a 360). HDMI from my Sony DVP-NC85H upconverting DVD changer to display, then digital coaxial from DVD, digital optical from cable box and PS2 to receiver. Sounds great!

Yeah, I have the 85h also. It's a pretty nice upscaler.
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post #54 of 2150
11/30/06 at 9:49pm
I just ordered this today for my bedroom.

I have been a HT installer for 8 years and can't wait to hear how this budget system compares to the systems i work on everyday. The only thing that worries me about this system is the weak sub, but for $320 you really can't beat this deal.
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post #55 of 2150
12/1/06 at 6:47am
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Yeah, I have the 85h also. It's a pretty nice upscaler.


hey leftey, i was thinking of this dvd player also but it says "Dolby Digital and DTS 5.1 Channel Output"... So what happens given that the 790 is a 7.1 speaker setup? sorry for the noob question
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post #56 of 2150
12/1/06 at 12:35pm
I don't know much about audio system and bought S790 without having much clue except seen good reviews about it for the budget that I had, Yet to unpack from the box.

I tpyically hear music from the regular CD's and what will be good multiple CD playing that can go with this, Is buying Onkyo 6 CD changer with S790 needed or I can buy pretty much anything.

Also interested in sets which could play DVD and Audio CD but can hold more DVD/CD in reasonable budget.

Thanks
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post #57 of 2150
12/1/06 at 12:38pm
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Originally Posted by ERICK ZENITH View Post

Im about to pull the trigger on this system
Just trying to figure out where to install it when I get it
what kind of wall mounts should I get ???


Browse this thread (or search) and you will see several suggestion and or links, a couple I put there and folks like Jakeman have posted many links for mounts/stands as well as banana plugs wire and cables.
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post #58 of 2150
12/1/06 at 3:44pm
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hey leftey, i was thinking of this dvd player also but it says "Dolby Digital and DTS 5.1 Channel Output"... So what happens given that the 790 is a 7.1 speaker setup? sorry for the noob question


Almost all DVDs are in 5.1 audio. Therefore, a 7.1 receiver like this one takes the 5.1 input and either plays it as is through the 5 speakers or simulates the rear surround speakers and plays through all 7 (you choose). Frankly, I just let it simimulate the rear surrounds and it sounds great.
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12/1/06 at 3:47pm
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Originally Posted by caryraleigh View Post

I don't know much about audio system and bought S790 without having much clue except seen good reviews about it for the budget that I had, Yet to unpack from the box.

I tpyically hear music from the regular CD's and what will be good multiple CD playing that can go with this, Is buying Onkyo 6 CD changer with S790 needed or I can buy pretty much anything.

Also interested in sets which could play DVD and Audio CD but can hold more DVD/CD in reasonable budget.

Thanks


This system will work with any CD / DVD player. I don't believe the Onkyo DVD players are that highly rated - go with a brand and model you like. Also note that any DVD player can play CDs, so unless you are building an only audio system, it is probably a better bet to go with a DVD player, unless you are looking at a high end CD system or a huge capacity changer.
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post #60 of 2150
12/1/06 at 5:00pm
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I typically hear music from the regular CD's and what will be good multiple CD playing that can go with this, Is buying Onkyo 6 CD changer with S790 needed or I can buy pretty much anything.

Also interested in sets which could play DVD and Audio CD but can hold more DVD/CD in reasonable budget.


Onkyo 704 6-Disc DVD/CD Carousel Changer with HDMI
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...goryNavigation

If you don't need the HDMI feature
http://www.accessories4less.com/cgi-bin/item/ONKDVCP702

I just got this CD changer this week. I already had a DVD player.
http://www.accessories4less.com/cgi-bin/item/ONKDXC390
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