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post #31 of 565
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Originally Posted by Sy- View Post

Can't you plug it into a monitor since it has a DVI port and a 1/8" audio jack?

I had just assumed it was DVI-D, and would only talk to digital monitors. I tried it on a flat panel, but the only one I had handy was a 23" 1920x1200 display, and it no likey. Didn't bother to try a DVI to VGA adapter and a standard CRT.

I didn't want to barge in and hook it up to someones Dell 24"... I'm sure that would have worked since it has DVI/RGB/Component/S/Composite.

I'll make it home... eventually... and try it there.
post #32 of 565
I played around with the router to no avail. I even tried (not that I know what I'm doing) to convert a VOB file to AVI to see if that would help, and it might have actually been worse. So far, not too impressed with the product. Not sure if I can find a x-over cable. Someone at work might have one.

Eric
post #33 of 565
Have you contacted Mvix? I'm reading this thread with great interest. I just returned the Galaxy Metal Gear IPTV-TMG (poor implementation) and came across this device today. It sounds too good to be true. I sent them a number of questions today and got pretty quick responses. I'm wondering how their support is.

While I was sending them questions today, I sent them a link to this thread and told them there were mixed results with streaming via wired connections. Haven't gotten a response from them. Hopefully you've heard something.


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I played around with the router to no avail. I even tried (not that I know what I'm doing) to convert a VOB file to AVI to see if that would help, and it might have actually been worse. So far, not too impressed with the product. Not sure if I can find a x-over cable. Someone at work might have one.

Eric
post #34 of 565
I contacted them. You're right, their support is generally pretty quick. They gave me a fairly "canned" answer that didn't meet any of my needs. I'm very frustrated so far. The product itself is much better than the 4000U that I also have, but it doesn't do what I plunked down the $300+ dollars for, which is watch DVDs from my home computer via wired or wireless network. Perhaps technology just isn't there yet. If I can find a cheap hard drive enclosure, I suppose I could just transfer movies to a spart 320GB hard drive that I have, but that's just a band-aid in my opinion.

Eric
post #35 of 565
That concerns me. I'm ready to order this thing but as you say, this might be too bleeding edge to jump in just yet. Seems there are more of these devices coming to market now and with CES 2007 just around the corner, maybe its worth waiting to see what is announced.

My original game plan was to have a MCE machine as my core distribution 'hub' with XBOX 360s in the rooms where I want to watch the distributed media. It would seem that is the least expensive, most practical way of doing this. However, I also did not plan to store all of my media local to the MCE machine. Instead, I wanted to pick up a NAS device, such as the Infrant ReadyNAS, and have it connected to my network directly. This would allow me to use the device not only to store all my media but also allow my wife and I to 'backup' data from our work or other PCs. The problem with this configuration is that MCE extenders (Xbox360) do not recognize mapped drives that are physically external to the MCE machine. Meaning, it won't see data on the NAS device.

So I started looking at these middleware devices. I've owned a couple in the past (Dlink DSM-320 as an example) and was disappointed with their implementation (didn't support nested folders very well, large collections of media, etc.). I was hoping that these devices have come along way since then. However, I'm finding they are all intent on adding more and more interconnects, more media formats and codecs but still lacking the depth and detail that would make them true 'appliances' for distributing media in the home. These devices also don't support the MS-DVR format of the MCE tv recorded video files so MCE would come out of my game plan and I would turn to a standard XP Pro machine with tv tuner card and SageTV.

So there is my dilemma. I'm still tempted to pick up this device as it seems to be the most well rounded. I would prefer it to be out for a bit longer and give the vendor a chance to support it, enhance it, etc. Would be interesting to know how these guys have handled support of the predecessor devices (4000, 5000).



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Originally Posted by perpetual98 View Post

I contacted them. You're right, their support is generally pretty quick. They gave me a fairly "canned" answer that didn't meet any of my needs. I'm very frustrated so far. The product itself is much better than the 4000U that I also have, but it doesn't do what I plunked down the $300+ dollars for, which is watch DVDs from my home computer via wired or wireless network. Perhaps technology just isn't there yet. If I can find a cheap hard drive enclosure, I suppose I could just transfer movies to a spart 320GB hard drive that I have, but that's just a band-aid in my opinion.

Eric
post #36 of 565
I think in the year or so that I've had the 4000U they've upgraded the firmware 3 times. One of them was pretty major, and the rest were fairly transparent to me. I'm hoping that some other people can jump in here and offer some support, but I may be holding my breath for a while. So far I'm on the fence about the product. I'm willing to jump through some hoops to get it to work, but I don't want to go too crazy. I've probably got about 100 movies on various hard drives. I've ripped almost all of my 3 year old daughter's movies to the 320GB drive that is internal to the unit. It's nice because I don't have to worry about her scratching the DVD's or the DVD's not playing because they're too beat up. I have all of my other movies ripped to my computer and another loose hard drive that I used to switch into the 4000U when my daughter wasn't watching them, but it was such a pain, that's why I wanted a network device. On paper, this device could be perfect for me. In real life, it's not panning out that way. Another HUGE thing would be to be able to display cover art. I inquired about it with my 4000U, but they haven't changed anything. It would be the cat's a$$ to be able to just click on the picture of the cover instead of navigating to the /hdd1/movies/cars/video_ts folder and then clicking on the appropriate file. That's just an inconvenience though. If I had to pick between network functionality and pictures, I'll take the functionality any day.

Eric
post #37 of 565
I hooked mine up this evening and in my opinion it SUCKS. Now that I have your attention let me tell you what I currently use so that you know where I'm coming from. In my house right now I have 3 showcenter 200's hooked up to 3 different HDTV's. My main TV being a 60" Sony sxrd that can run 1080p. The Showcenters are all being served by a 5tb RAID server which holds all my dvd rips. I've never owned a TVIX unit so I can't tell you if the MVIX is any better than those.

First off... I don't know why these manufacturers think everyone like to have these devices standing on end? Mose people have home theater systems with amps, dvd players, vcrs, tivos etc that sit horizontally. xbox 360's and nintendo wii's sit vertically but those are toys. so i guess mvix and tivx want their devices to be considered toys rather than home theater devices?

outputting 1080P, 1080I or 720P over DVI causes the picture to be off center. the menu and the videos are displayed flush right with a black bar on the left side. If i output 480p dvi everything is ok. if I output 1080i over component then it is centered but there are small black bars on the right and left side of the screen.

the remote is very flimsy. it reminds me of the POS remote that comes with the avel linkplayer 2. the remote is very light and narrow. it is very uncomportable to hold. If you insist on getting a mvix get a universal remote.

the user interface sucks. you basically just navigate the directories and select the file you want to play. if you want to see a nice UI check out swisscenter. it is a server side http and sql server that can organize your videos. helpful if, like myself, you have hundreds of movies to navigate.

the box is slow and unresponsive. navigating the menus is slow and it seems taxing on the processor. sometimes if i'm pressing say the settings button i hit it and there is no response so I hit it again still nothing then i hit the power off button and a minute later the device eventually powers off. very very slow.

one good thing about the device it does play iso files. and thats the only good thing about this "toy"

edit... Oh yea... the free t-shirt was cool too

edit again... I also forgot to mention the fan on this this is loud too. There is a destinctive "suck"ing sound coming from this box.
post #38 of 565
Most of my content will be digital photos organized in folders by date of event, DVR files (from PC oriented TV tuners, etc.) and a very extensive (60gb+) music collection organized by artist / album / tracks. My wife's dream is to be able to sit on our patio and listen to music on our outdoor speakers, using a RF remote to change the music she wants to listen to. I would also like to be able to watch or listen to what we want from any location in the house without worrying about the location of the media. It would also be nice to be able to keep movies in ISO files and play them from the centralized storage as well.

I really expect these devices to be nearly plug 'n play. I don't mind some tweaks, enabling sharing of folders and storage devices but not much more than that. I already have my handsful organizing and managing the data store.

Anyway, sorry - didn't mean to move the conversation away from the original topic. I remain interest in this device and hope others can chime in. I realize its new and not sold by anyone other than the manufacturer and possibly 'thinkgeek' so not many have it as yet.

Regards,
David

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Originally Posted by perpetual98 View Post

I think in the year or so that I've had the 4000U they've upgraded the firmware 3 times. One of them was pretty major, and the rest were fairly transparent to me. I'm hoping that some other people can jump in here and offer some support, but I may be holding my breath for a while. So far I'm on the fence about the product. I'm willing to jump through some hoops to get it to work, but I don't want to go too crazy. I've probably got about 100 movies on various hard drives. I've ripped almost all of my 3 year old daughter's movies to the 320GB drive that is internal to the unit. It's nice because I don't have to worry about her scratching the DVD's or the DVD's not playing because they're too beat up. I have all of my other movies ripped to my computer and another loose hard drive that I used to switch into the 4000U when my daughter wasn't watching them, but it was such a pain, that's why I wanted a network device. On paper, this device could be perfect for me. In real life, it's not panning out that way. Another HUGE thing would be to be able to display cover art. I inquired about it with my 4000U, but they haven't changed anything. It would be the cat's a$$ to be able to just click on the picture of the cover instead of navigating to the /hdd1/movies/cars/video_ts folder and then clicking on the appropriate file. That's just an inconvenience though. If I had to pick between network functionality and pictures, I'll take the functionality any day.

Eric
post #39 of 565
I hooked mine up this evening and in my opinion it SUCKS. Now that I have your attention let me tell you what I currently use so that you know where I'm coming from. In my house right now I have 3 showcenter 200's hooked up to 3 different HDTV's. My main TV being a 60" Sony sxrd that can run 1080p. The Showcenters are all being served by a 5tb RAID server which holds all my dvd rips. I've never owned a TVIX unit so I can't tell you if the MVIX is any better than those.

I can see why you would think that the unit "sucks" From the sounds of it, you're not the target audience that the manufacturer is after. You're way more high end.

First off... I don't know why these manufacturers think everyone like to have these devices standing on end? Mose people have home theater systems with amps, dvd players, vcrs, tivos etc that sit horizontally. xbox 360's and nintendo wii's sit vertically but those are toys. so i guess mvix and tivx want their devices to be considered toys rather than home theater devices?


I agree, both the new one and my 4000U stand up. It doesn't really bother me though.

outputting 1080P, 1080I or 720P over DVI causes the picture to be off center. the menu and the videos are displayed flush right with a black bar on the left side. If i output 480p dvi everything is ok. if I output 1080i over component then it is centered but there are small black bars on the right and left side of the screen.

There MAY be some settings in Setup to change that, but I don't even have an HDTV that I've tried it on, so I can't comment. It would be annoying if you can't fix it though. Bring it up with Mvix and inquire about fixing it in a firmware update. I don't think that Mvix is even the manufacturer though, I think that Unicorn is.


the remote is very flimsy. it reminds me of the POS remote that comes with the avel linkplayer 2. the remote is very light and narrow. it is very uncomportable to hold. If you insist on getting a mvix get a universal remote.

If you thinks THIS remote is bad, you should see the one for the 4000U!

the user interface sucks. you basically just navigate the directories and select the file you want to play. if you want to see a nice UI check out swisscenter. it is a server side http and sql server that can organize your videos. helpful if, like myself, you have hundreds of movies to navigate.

I agree

the box is slow and unresponsive. navigating the menus is slow and it seems taxing on the processor. sometimes if i'm pressing say the settings button i hit it and there is no response so I hit it again still nothing then i hit the power off button and a minute later the device eventually powers off. very very slow.

one good thing about the device it does play iso files. and thats the only good thing about this "toy"


I agree again

edit... Oh yea... the free t-shirt was cool too

I'm a big fat American. Do you think a Large shirt would fit me? lol
post #40 of 565
To be honest, I don't think any of these devices in the under $1000 category are suitable for the audience you would think the features indicate. Most of these devices are more appropriate for someone with hundreds of mp3 files, dozens of videos and a couple years of photos.

For the rest of us that want to manage our media 'libraries' of 10s of gigabytes of music, lifetime supplies of photos and endless video libraries from ripped or DVR recorded media, I get the feeling we are still better suited for the higher end Escient type devices that are intended to focus on music or video and do what they do pretty well.

I'm hoping a vendor proves me wrong soon! I think the time and functional requirements warrant having a middleware appliance that sits between your media server (be it a NAS, NDAS or PC with mass storage) and your output device of choice (TV, projector, PDA, etc.) and allows you to navigate using some means of browsing conveniently through artists, genres, etc., with great speed and efficiency.

I think the market is ready and I think the number of products attempting this is indicating that we are in need of convergence 'middleware appliances' to help us do this.


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Originally Posted by perpetual98 View Post

I hooked mine up this evening and in my opinion it SUCKS. Now that I have your attention let me tell you what I currently use so that you know where I'm coming from. In my house right now I have 3 showcenter 200's hooked up to 3 different HDTV's. My main TV being a 60" Sony sxrd that can run 1080p. The Showcenters are all being served by a 5tb RAID server which holds all my dvd rips. I've never owned a TVIX unit so I can't tell you if the MVIX is any better than those.

I can see why you would think that the unit "sucks" From the sounds of it, you're not the target audience that the manufacturer is after. You're way more high end.
post #41 of 565
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Originally Posted by perpetual98 View Post

edit... Oh yea... the free t-shirt was cool too

I'm a big fat American. Do you think a Large shirt would fit me? lol

I don't know if I should be insulted or pleased. They sent me an XL T-Shirt.

How did they know?

;-)
post #42 of 565
FWIW, I'm watching a movie on my player via a USB external drive with no problems. I can always take the external drive up to my computer and move movies around that way, but again, that's not the reason I bought this thing.

Eric
post #43 of 565
There is no way I'm buying into these devices unless I can use everything in the location intended through automated interconnectivity.


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Originally Posted by perpetual98 View Post

FWIW, I'm watching a movie on my player via a USB external drive with no problems. I can always take the external drive up to my computer and move movies around that way, but again, that's not the reason I bought this thing.

Eric
post #44 of 565
Well, I'm running into problems with HD transport streams. The problems others are having with DVD over network also crop up with HD from the built-in HD.

When there is a lot of motion, the video pauses. It appears it is having trouble dealing with a lot of motion vectors or higher bitrates... not sure yet.

Black level on the component output is wrong... and gamma appears to be wrong. Details in dark areas are lost if you try and correct the black level with the brightness control (at least on HD transport streams.)

The brightness and contrast controls are WAY too course. In one step you go from losing all detail in dark areas to a washed out grey in black areas.

When selecting an .IFO, just before the movie starts, it may show a totally different media file name.

This is firmware revision 0.2.61108

Time to give them a call and ask what they plan to fix.
post #45 of 565
I expect a firmware update in the not too distant future. Hopefully it addresses some issues. I don't have anything Higher-Def than a normal DVD, and I don't have it hooked up to my HDTV player, which is in my bedroom, but maybe this weekend I'll try the DVI port and see how things look.

Does anyone know if you can access this thing via the network? If I could push things to the hard drive and delete thing via the network, that would be cool.

Eric
post #46 of 565
This was in an email that i just got from them:

Q: "...but what if I want to transfer files wirelessly to the 'Mvix'-HDD?"
A: OK, you got us there... SORT OF. Although the ability to transfer files across the wireless signal is not an option YET, we will be releasing a FIRMWARE update that will allow you to enable this drive as a NAS/NDAS device, which means you will be able to manage (transfer/delete/move) the files on the internal hard drive via your network computers. We have no ETA on this firmware update yet, but STAY TUNED because this feature is coming!

Q: "So you are telling me that I can watch videos and movies stored on my PC by simply connecting this media center to my PC and TV?"
A: YES, ABSOLUTELY - that's one of the cool features of Mvix Wireless HD Media Center. Now you don't have to copy and move any media from your main PC. Simply hook up the MX-760HD to your HDTV or Plasma and then enable wireless/wired connection to your PC, share all folders and files on your PC... and now you can stream all the media to your TV.


They forgot to mention "in theory" on the second question. lol
post #47 of 565
I concur, the MX-760HD is not ready for prime time. I did not think a company would release a product buggier than the DirecTV HR20. Must have been rushed out for the season, I'm guessing. Same problems as others have noted: off center, lock-ups, slow menu response, etc.

Based on the previous message, I thought that NAS was only a wireless limitation. I could not figure out how to do it, even in wired mode. I'll be quite surprised s is the case. I was able to stream MPG and IFO files for a little while before it locked up.

I was hoping this was going to work. I do like the price, the portability and that it's quiet and does not generate a lot of heat. Seems like an HTPC with WMC or Vista with the My Movies plug in is a better way to go, however.
post #48 of 565
Does the MX760HD display photos in High Definition?

Is there a blackout or lag between pictures during a Slideshow. Please describe.

Does it play internet radio?
post #49 of 565
It started out very good, that I was almost hooked with it. Now it turned out to be a sucked one. Some one has a post saying that any product under $1000 cannot be good as a reliable wireless hard drive media player. In fact, I kept watching and waiting for a good one < $500. Is there one in the market any of you knows about? Thanks for sharing.
post #50 of 565
Interesting note... I did hook up a DVI to VGA adapter, and the mvix does do VGA, although it has a limited number of VGA resolutions it will do... 640x480, 800x600, 1024x768, 1280*960, 1280*1024.

Frustrating that it doesn't do TV resolutions out the VGA connector (720P, 1080I, 1080P).
post #51 of 565
I apologize for disappearing from this thread. I agree with other owners of this device, the network streaming sucks. I tried streaming a dvd from my basement pc to the 760hd through my linksys wireless router and had dropouts up the ying yang.

A few days later I tried streaming from my laptop that I connected to the router via a cat5 cable so that there was no wireless involved at all and still had streaming problems.

Next I will try converting to divx format and then stream the movie that way. I'm having problems finding a program that converts dvd files to divx that is compatible with the 760hd. I tried the one they recommend on their site (SuperG) but I don't see an option for 5.1 sound. The one that seems to work so far is AutoGK. I'll keep you informed.
post #52 of 565
Thanks for your update. I think that Mvix has "closed" my support ticket, even though they really did nothing to resolve it. I also inquired about the NAS/NDAS firmware and he said that they didn't know when it was coming and that it would be in their newsletter. I'm not holding my breath at this point, and to be honest, I regret my decision to plunk down the money for this unit. On the other hand, my brother-in-law will be the lucky recipient of my 4000U, so he should be happy and I'm adequately content I suppose.
post #53 of 565
After looking at all the other similar mdeia players I bought this one because of the wireless networking in the hope that I will eventaully be able to "push" data onto the internal HDD from my PC. So far the until functions adequatley - playing xvid and .iso from the internal HDD with no problems (over the DVI @ 1080i). However although I have the woreless correctly configured and working I can't see any shares on the PC - I haven't been able to install the NETBEUI protocol even when following the MS instructions! Can anyone who has managed to get this working give me some pointers - it seems a bit bizzare that you need to install 3 network protocols as the instruction manual seems to suggest.
post #54 of 565
Adam,
If you get a chance ......

download some of the large 1080p WMV-HD examples from Microsofts website and see if they play on your MVIX from the internal HDD:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/win...tshowcase.aspx

Also, using your internal HDD, try a few regular Video_TS folders from some ripped DVD's and see if they are cool too.

your report will help others (namely me) make decisions on getting this unit.
post #55 of 565
Video_TS folders from ripped DVDs work fine in the internal and the USB attached drives.
post #56 of 565
perpetual,
Did you ever try your DVI connection like you said you would? I know you don't have anything higher then a SD DVD, but I was wondering if the video image is off-center using the DVI connection and if the colors were off like Sy- claims, or if his situation is an isolated incident.
post #57 of 565
No, I haven't tried it yet. Let me give it a whirl the next day or two.
post #58 of 565
wow, sounds like a lot of bad news. i do believe that it has $300 worth of features, but the problems make me want to pass this one up. the htguys gave a review of this product today and it sounds like they had more success. they only really tested performance of various formats over the wireless connectivity, and they reported what was expected (it had a harder time displaying hd content and stuff like that). they failed to have any of the other problems you guys were mentioning, like the upscaled output not filling the screen or slow gui. maybe these can be fixed with a firmware update? i'm not sure how often mvix releases updates, but i wanted to trust this particular product (and mvix) so much.

the big feature here is the ethernet/wireless, but if it can't do that up to standards, then it isn't worth buying. not yet, anyway. it also seems like there's software that needs to be installed for the wireless to work, which could potentially be a hassle.

someone already asked, but does anyone know if there are any similar products that have ethernet at the very least? a reputable brand, preferred. i know there's some other product that looks like this mvix, rebranded; wireless and all. i was also looking at the latest tvix (for awhile) which seems to do everything this mvix can, minus the wireless feature. at this point, i know wireless isn't the best thing to use for all media, so it's not so important to me. i suspect i'll be doing a search right now.
post #59 of 565
FWIW, I was listening to mp3 files via wireless last night. I didn't have any streaming problems. The interface really needs to be cleaned up though. It does nothing with ID3 tags and only file names, and it takes too long to scroll through the file name to see what song you've got (if you've got a long file name)

My other beef, and I've contacted Mvix, is that I can't get repeat to turn off, which is rather annoying as I have to play each track one after another.

Hopefully they get back to me.

I also couldn't figure out how to do a photo slideshow while listening to music. I was able to listen to some tunes and play a photo from folder full of photos, but I had to manually move back and forth between photos.
post #60 of 565
Hello

Is this Mvix player better than Helios X5000?

Thanks
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