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post #3091 of 8078
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Originally Posted by Picasso Moon View Post

I replaced an HSU VTF3 Mk2 with a SubMersive (one at first, then another ) and can tell you there is no comparison. No doubt the SubMersive goes lower than the HSU but beyond that it has slam and impact that are hard to describe unless you've heard it in person. It has the ability to hit you in the chest with authority and has a tightness when playing music the the HSU could only dream about.

I've upgraded every component in my HT system over the last year and nothing comes close to having the overall impact that going from the VTF3 Mk2 to the SubMersive(s) has had.

Hi Picasso:

Well, I suppose that's about as relevant of a comparison as I could have possibly hoped for. When I think about that visceral quality, I think of the lightning strike in War of the Worlds or the sonic blast scene in Hulk or the helicopter takeoff scene in Blackhawk Down. The HSU does give a bit of a whump in those scenes in WotW and Hulk (it doesn't really deliver much of anything in Blackhawk Down), but I'm looking for a bit more than that.

I guess I should have asked everyone about thoughts on using the Submersive for music too (I got all caught up in asking about the HT aspect). Truthfully, I don't usually use the sub for music, since the mains do a pretty respectable job in my room, but I'm certainly not opposed to integrating the sub for 2ch.


Scott
post #3092 of 8078
There are other threads where where previous owners have compared the JL13 to the SubMersive and I personally had the SVS 13 Ultras. Price not withstanding, the SubMersive is the better of these three choices. I can not comment on the other options.
post #3093 of 8078
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Originally Posted by ssteel01 View Post

OT side note to MikeDuke:
I love the GIK traps and highly recommend them. Very affordable, very effective. Just FYI, the tri traps actually have a smaller footprint in the corner than the 242's. I originally had the 242's angled to cover the corners, but they stuck out pretty far. That said, the 242's do just fine as corner traps. I use 4 tri's in the corners and 242's behind the main speakers and on the back wall. Plus I still have to use the notch filter in my pro to tame a really nasty ~40Hz peak that the acoustic treatments really have a hard time knocking down.
Scott

Here is the thing, at this point I really don't want to put anything that big in the corners themselves. I just have a feeling they will dominate the room too much. But I have been talking with Bryan P and he feels that the plan that I put together is a good one and that it will help out the room overall. I will be experimenting with some other ideas for the corners at some point. Thanks for the feedback.
post #3094 of 8078
Submersive is on the truck for delivery next business day! Hope I get home from work before they show up...
post #3095 of 8078
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Originally Posted by whitehawk View Post

Submersive is on the truck for delivery next business day! Hope I get home from work before they show up...

Mine showed up today. I'm crazy pumped but I don't get off work untill 11pm. Still just the fact that it's in my hands now makes me pretty happy, can't wait to hear it.

Happy to say that I am now "offically" part of the Submersive club
post #3096 of 8078
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Originally Posted by whitehawk View Post

Submersive is on the truck for delivery next business day! Hope I get home from work before they show up...

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Originally Posted by Jeratt View Post

Mine showed up today. I'm crazy pumped but I don't get off work untill 11pm. Still just the fact that it's in my hands now makes me pretty happy, can't wait to hear it.

Happy to say that I am now "offically" part of the Submersive club

I remember well the crummy wait!

Looking forward to your impressions...

Just over 3 months into mine and I'm loving my HT, but actually even more unbelievably impressed with the music capacities of the SubMersive. I've re-discovered my music collection and had a so much fun via netflix with blu-ray concerts. David Glilmour is up next...
post #3097 of 8078
Just remember to eat your Wheaties before you start pushing it around!
post #3098 of 8078
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Originally Posted by millerwill View Post

Just remember to eat your Wheaties before you start pushing it around!


Hahaha, I actually have a buddy coming over to help me out as my Submersive is actually still in my car hatch here at work and I have to haul er' downstairs to the batcave. I consider myself to be fairly fit as I workout regularly but in no way what so ever am I gonna try to tackle this beast by myself. This thing was actually loaded into my car with a fork lift lol.
post #3099 of 8078
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Originally Posted by Jeratt View Post

Hahaha, I actually have a buddy coming over to help me out as my Submersive is actually still in my car hatch here at work and I have to haul er' downstairs to the batcave. I consider myself to be fairly fit as I workout regularly but in no way what so ever am I gonna try to tackle this beast by myself. This thing was actually loaded into my car with a fork lift lol.

C'mon, man! Mine were delivered to my driveway. I put 'em on a handtruck and wheeled 'em around back, down a hill and into the basement. I unpacked 'em, and placed 'em, all by myself. They're heavy, yeah, ya just need to learn how to use leverage!

Man up!



j/k of course. These suckers are heavy and big/awkward. The more help you can get to lug them around the better.

I'm sure you'll enjoy yours as much as I do mine!

Craig
post #3100 of 8078
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Originally Posted by craig john View Post

C'mon, man! Mine were delivered to my driveway. I put 'em on a handtruck and wheeled 'em around back, down a hill and into the basement. I unpacked 'em, and placed 'em, all by myself. They're heavy, yeah, ya just need to learn how to use leverage!

Man up!



j/k of course. These suckers are heavy and big/awkward. The more help you can get to lug them around the better.

I'm sure you'll enjoy yours as much as I do mine!

Craig

You forgot to mention that you also strapped em on your back and had to walk 5miles.... in the snow...with no shoes.
post #3101 of 8078
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Originally Posted by craig john View Post

C'mon, man! Mine were delivered to my driveway. I put 'em on a handtruck and wheeled 'em around back, down a hill and into the basement. I unpacked 'em, and placed 'em, all by myself. They're heavy, yeah, ya just need to learn how to use leverage!

Man up!

Well, Craig, I did talk the UPS guy into helping me carry it up the entry stairs to our front door. Then I manhandled it down a hall (which fortunately has a rug runner) into the back BR/now HT. Again have some oriental rugs, so not hard to shove it around. All by myself (tipped the boxed on its side to open and slide it out); not bad for a 68 yr old.
post #3102 of 8078
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Originally Posted by Jeratt View Post

You forgot to mention that you also strapped em on your back and had to walk 5miles.... in the snow...with no shoes.

Up hill... BOTH WAYS!!!
post #3103 of 8078
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Originally Posted by craig john View Post

Up hill... BOTH WAYS!!!

lol, knew I forgot something.
post #3104 of 8078
I have no choice but to tackle these beasts on my own. I am going to have to man handle 3 catalysts, 4 sparks and 2 SubMersives. I am thinking doing it in stages, so hopefully I will be finnished moving them a month after they arrive!!!!!!
post #3105 of 8078
Well I didn't have much time last night but I still managed to squeeze in hooking up my Submersive and watched one movie(Jumper). I haven't started pushing it around yet, just placed it where my old sub was but wow do these things PUMP! My HT is even set up in a solid concrete, well insulated basement and I can clearly see I'm still gonna have to be careful not to bump out my neighbours and have the police show up at my door.
post #3106 of 8078
This weekend I'll be making some quality Submersive time lol.
post #3107 of 8078
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Originally Posted by JapanDave View Post

I have no choice but to tackle these beasts on my own. I am going to have to man handle 3 catalysts, 4 sparks and 2 SubMersives. I am thinking doing it in stages, so hopefully I will be finnished moving them a month after they arrive!!!!!!

I hope you don't have to many steps. Stages is a good idea. As long as you have everything just do it a bit a time. Maybe set the two Catalysts up. Then setup the 2 sparks and one sub and run a phantom center. That leaves the center cat, 2 sparks and one sub. The rest should be able to go in without much of a problem. Just a thought . Can't wait to hear what you think of them.
post #3108 of 8078
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Originally Posted by MIkeDuke View Post

I hope you don't have to many steps. Stages is a good idea. As long as you have everything just do it a bit a time. Maybe set the two Catalysts up. Then setup the 2 sparks and one sub and run a phantom center. That leaves the center cat, 2 sparks and one sub. The rest should be able to go in without much of a problem. Just a thought . Can't wait to hear what you think of them.

No need to worry about running a phantom center and such, b/c I still have yet to build the room. Once I get the speakers I am going to finish off the layout and get started on the build. I am looking at about a month to get every thing sorted and installed and a further two months to complete the build. That will include getting the room treated.
post #3109 of 8078
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Originally Posted by JapanDave View Post

No need to worry about running a phantom center and such, b/c I still have yet to build the room. Once I get the speakers I am going to finish off the layout and get started on the build. I am looking at about a month to get every thing sorted and installed and a further two months to complete the build. That will include getting the room treated.

Sounds like a plan. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts on this setup. You will have 9200 watts of clean power to play with. Just be careful.
post #3110 of 8078
Managed to squeeze in another movie last night(Inglourious Basterds). Not a whole lot of bass but the couple gunfights that come up sure had some punch to them. I'm seriously considering maybe talking to my neighbours asking them to call me if things are too loud. This thing seriously shakes my whole house and would prefer to get a phone call from them rather then police showing up at my front door... looks like I might have to move to a farm soon lol j/k.
post #3111 of 8078
A two acre suburban house in a nearby town will be sufficient.
post #3112 of 8078
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Originally Posted by Jeratt View Post

Managed to squeeze in another movie last night(Inglourious Basterds). Not a whole lot of bass but the couple gunfights that come up sure had some punch to them. I'm seriously considering maybe talking to my neighbours asking them to call me if things are too loud. This thing seriously shakes my whole house and would prefer to get a phone call from them rather then police showing up at my front door... looks like I might have to move to a farm soon lol j/k.

You aren't too far off. I've watched a few segments of movies (Iron Man, Watchmen) and a few TV shows and a few cds, and I don't think I can run this beast at even a 1/4 of its ability (probably much less than that even). My closest neighbor's house is 150 ft away, but he heard it easily monday night... After him the next closest house is about 500ft away.

To say the least - I'm very impressed. Bass has never had such a full sound, or the depth that I'm hearing and feeling. A more detailed review will follow after some more listening, but for now - this thing is just awesome.
post #3113 of 8078
If your closest neighbor is 150 feet away and can hear your theater, I am in deep ka-ka. While my theater is in the basement, I am only about 30 feet from his home and I have 4 SubMersives. Fortunately, he is a renter so what can he do.

I may have to crank it up and go outside and find out what my neighbors are hearing. Or maybe I won't since I've heard that ignorance is bliss.
post #3114 of 8078
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Originally Posted by audioguy View Post

If your closest neighbor is 150 feet away and can hear your theater, I am in deep ka-ka. While my theater is in the basement, I am only about 30 feet from his home and I have 4 SubMersives. Fortunately, he is a renter so what can he do.

I may have to crank it up and go outside and find out what my neighbors are hearing. Or maybe I won't since I've heard that ignorance is bliss.

LOL, poor guy! Or he could consider himself lucky and synchronize any movie you watch and he could get all his bass for free...
post #3115 of 8078
would a dual drive HSU ULS-15 be as good as a single submersive?
post #3116 of 8078
I installed an Hsu Dual Drive system recently for a friend. I have dual Submersives in my own HT. I can't compare a single Submersive to Dual Drive Hsu's, but my "gut" is this:

The Dual Drive system will have similar output, extension and sound quality to a single Submersive. It will have the advantage of being able to place two subs within the room for better FR. It will have the disadvantage of having to place two subs within the room. Pick your poison. I doubt you could go wrong with either choice.

It's *nice* to have choices.

Craig
post #3117 of 8078
thanks a lot, i appreciate the response.
post #3118 of 8078
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Originally Posted by Kimwyn View Post

would a dual drive HSU ULS-15 be as good as a single submersive?

I use Dual SubMersives and an HSU ULS-15 QuadDrive System in my HT. I use an SVS-EQ1 for correction.

The dual SubMersives are up front and a co-located pair of ULS-15's are placed along each rear side wall.

I haven't done a direct comparison but agree with craig john.

John
post #3119 of 8078
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Originally Posted by John H View Post

I use Dual SubMersives and an HSU ULS-15 QuadDrive System in my HT. I use an SVS-EQ1 for correction.

The dual SubMersives are up front and a co-located pair of ULS-15's are placed along each rear side wall.

I haven't done a direct comparison but agree with craig john.

John

How do you find the different subs? Does this cause any problems?
post #3120 of 8078
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Originally Posted by John H View Post

I use Dual SubMersives and an HSU ULS-15 QuadDrive System in my HT.

You use SIX (6) subs in your room which is eight (8) 15 inch drivers! I thought I was one of the few loonies who did that (4 SubMersives). How large is your room?
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