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post #5041 of 8164
Both of my Submersives HP's started humming when i had no signal running to them. They are positioned on opposite sides of my room and I can't figure out why they are doing this. I have disconnected the sub cable and tried unplugging everything in my system to try and find a solution. I need help with this because it is getting really annoying!! Please help!
post #5042 of 8164
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Originally Posted by JamMasterJames
Hey guys , so I recently got a new receiver, an Onkyo TX-NR3008 , it has Audyssey MultEQ XT32. Anyhow, for Audyssey set-up the first thing you do is put the Audyssey microphone at ear height at the listening position and it sends a sound to the subwoofer and it asks you to set the gain to 75db, I have to dang near turn the gain off on my SubMersive HP to get close to 75dbs, actually it takes just 2 clicks on the gain to get to ~75db! My question is this: can the SubMersive amp reach anywhere near full output with the gain set so low? As I said ~75db for me is just 2 clicks on the gain! thanks
Pretty sure that is not a problem. My gain knob(s) are just before the last poition on mine as well and I am still above 75
post #5043 of 8164
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Originally Posted by audioguy View Post

Pretty sure that is not a problem. My gain knob(s) are just before the last poition on mine as well and I am still above 75

When Craig was helping me out with Calibration with the XT32 and the new HP am we had to turn the way down PLUS we had to lower the level in the Integra 80.2 way down but it still kicks ass. I am above 80db even at that level of calibration. Nothing I can do about it.
post #5044 of 8164
Simply an overkill choice of sub for the location.
post #5045 of 8164
Not possible, you can never ever ever have too much sub

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Originally Posted by Gary J View Post

Simply an overkill choice of sub for the location.
post #5046 of 8164
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Originally Posted by Gary J View Post

Simply an overkill choice of sub for the location.

Do you never quit? Mike has A SINGLE SUB. That would be one or not quite two. What it REALLY means is that Mike was smart enough to invest in a sub with which he will not run out of headroom (although, apparently, he can run out of power

You can NOT have too many or too much subwoofer if it/they is/are integrated properly into the rest of your system. More headroom means lower distortion means better bass.
post #5047 of 8164
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Originally Posted by audioguy View Post

Mike has A SINGLE SUB.

Who said otherwise?

One HP sub TWO FEET from the MLP = unfortunate choice. The good news is he's ok with it.
post #5048 of 8164
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Originally Posted by Gary J View Post

One HP sub TWO FEET from the MLP = unfortunate choice.

What qualifies you to make such a statement?
post #5049 of 8164
Experience, research, common sense.

An attorney by chance? Sounds like a if you can't argue the facts, argue the law type question.
post #5050 of 8164
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Originally Posted by Gary J View Post

Who said otherwise?

One HP sub TWO FEET from the MLP = unfortunate choice.

By whose definition?
post #5051 of 8164
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Originally Posted by audioguy View Post

That would be one or not quite two.

Must have missed your answer on that point?

Look we all make mistakes. Most of us learn from it, get over it and move on. He won't be recommending a HP for a spot TWO FEET from the MLP again. Besides like I said the owner is ok with it. In basketball they call it no harm-no foul.

Carry on.
post #5052 of 8164
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Originally Posted by Gary J View Post

Experience, research, common sense.

An attorney by chance? Sounds like a if you can't argue the facts, argue the law type question.

The "facts" are that lots of people use nearfield placement of their subwoofer with excellent results. You have never been in Mike's room, nor heard his system. You have no frame of reference to make such a statement, and you are just flat wrong.

I don't know what makes you think you're qualified to make value judgments for other people, especially when you have no frame of reference for your comments. Just because you have no clue how to properly integrate a subwoofer, (other than to simply run Audyssey ), doesn't mean that others can't get excellent results from proper measurements and setup, even in challenging environments.

Mike's system sounds fantastic and there is absolutely *nothing* unfortunate about that.

Craig

PS. And, no, I'm not an attorney.
post #5053 of 8164
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Originally Posted by audioguy View Post

By whose definition?

I wish you guys would stop quoting him. It makes the ignore list function obsolete.
post #5054 of 8164
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Originally Posted by JamMasterJames View Post

Hey guys , so I recently got a new receiver, an Onkyo TX-NR3008 , it has Audyssey MultEQ XT32. Anyhow, for Audyssey set-up the first thing you do is put the Audyssey microphone at ear height at the listening position and it sends a sound to the subwoofer and it asks you to set the gain to 75db, I have to dang near turn the gain off on my SubMersive HP to get close to 75dbs, actually it takes just 2 clicks on the gain to get to ~75db! My question is this: can the SubMersive amp reach anywhere near full output with the gain set so low? As I said ~75db for me is just 2 clicks on the gain! thanks

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Originally Posted by Gary J View Post

Who said otherwise?

One HP sub TWO FEET from the MLP = unfortunate choice. The good news is he's ok with it.

While I haven't tested these particular systems recently, we're pretty confident such issues come from strong modal peaks that skew the pink noise based level adjustments. My recommendation is to set the sub to about 80-85dB in this test and see how it comes out in the displays for the before/after EQ.
post #5055 of 8164
I really don't see what the problem is Garry, Please don't use me as an example of what not to do. You have never been to my room. Mark S has been to my room. In addition Craig has and one of his friends has. So I would trust their word more the I would trust yours. So how about you just drop it and lets not derail the thread by saying how much of a mistake I made by putting a SubMersive in my room.
post #5056 of 8164
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Originally Posted by JamMasterJames View Post

Hey guys , so I recently got a new receiver, an Onkyo TX-NR3008 , it has Audyssey MultEQ XT32. Anyhow, for Audyssey set-up the first thing you do is put the Audyssey microphone at ear height at the listening position and it sends a sound to the subwoofer and it asks you to set the gain to 75db, I have to dang near turn the gain off on my SubMersive HP to get close to 75dbs, actually it takes just 2 clicks on the gain to get to ~75db! My question is this: can the SubMersive amp reach anywhere near full output with the gain set so low? As I said ~75db for me is just 2 clicks on the gain! thanks


James,
Whether you know it or not, some of your past comments as well as feedback from others, led me to purchase the SubMersive HP.
I think I remember you stating a while back that you previously had a big peak in your room, I cant remember the exact peak number or Hz but I thought you eventually bought a Antimode and it resolved most of it.
Are you still using the Anti-Mode? If you still have it, have you tried running it first and then running Auydessy? Since your SubMersive gain is so low, I’m starting to wonder if you may be having the same issue that MikeDuke is having where Auydessy may be raising the levels to match the peak instead of the other way around.
post #5057 of 8164
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Originally Posted by Gary J View Post

Who said otherwise?

One HP sub TWO FEET from the MLP = unfortunate choice. The good news is he's ok with it.

There are good reasons to own a SubMersive that have nothing to do with max SPL output, therefore your tunnel-vision conclusion is false.
post #5058 of 8164
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Originally Posted by rossandwendy View Post

your tunnel-vision conclusion is false.

"There are good reasons". I think a HP for a spot 2' from your MLP is not a good choice. I stand corrected because as you say rossandwendy "there are good reasons". Got it now - thanks.
post #5059 of 8164
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Originally Posted by Gary J View Post

I think a HP for a spot 2' from your MLP is not a good choice.

You're entitled to your opinion, even if it's baseless. You've expressed it *numerous* times now, and we have read it. There is no need to keep repeating it.

Craig
post #5060 of 8164
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Originally Posted by craig john View Post

There is no need

Thanks for the advice but within forum rules I will decide what I need (or want).

I would like to respectfully request no more PMs from you though.
post #5061 of 8164
Wow, the ignore really does work.
post #5062 of 8164
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Originally Posted by sandbagger View Post

Not possible, you can never ever ever have too much sub

The simple truth. ^^
post #5063 of 8164
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Originally Posted by Mark Seaton View Post

While I haven't tested these particular systems recently, we're pretty confident such issues come from strong modal peaks that skew the pink noise based level adjustments. My recommendation is to set the sub to about 80-85dB in this test and see how it comes out in the displays for the before/after EQ.

It is still early but from what I have experienced so far Audyssey MultEQ XT32 is an awesome system for setting up your home theater, I am loving it so far. Funny you say try 80-85db because that is where I set it last night but I set it to 75db the first time....and you know what? It sounds great both ways. Audyssey gets the subwoofer where it wants it at 75db and 85db. Every receiver needs Audyssey MultEQ XT32!

thanks Mark.
post #5064 of 8164
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Originally Posted by Bunga99 View Post

James,
Whether you know it or not, some of your past comments as well as feedback from others, led me to purchase the SubMersive HP.
I think I remember you stating a while back that you previously had a big peak in your room, I cant remember the exact peak number or Hz but I thought you eventually bought a Antimode and it resolved most of it.
Are you still using the Anti-Mode? If you still have it, have you tried running it first and then running Auydessy? Since your SubMersive gain is so low, I'm starting to wonder if you may be having the same issue that MikeDuke is having where Auydessy may be raising the levels to match the peak instead of the other way around.


That makes me feel good that I was able to convince others that the SubMersive rocks. Thanks for mentioning that.
I sold the Antimode awhile back, the peaks in my room are not really THAT bad, I mostly used the 8033 for its lift modes. And as of right now, Audyssey MultEQ XT32 is all I need and want. My old receiver had MultEQ XT which is certainly better than Mult EQ but MultEQ XT32 blows the others away.
post #5065 of 8164
If anyone wants Audyssey MultEQ XT32, you can find which receivers have it right HERE.
post #5066 of 8164
SubMersive owners with two subwoofers might want Audyssey Sub EQ HT

Id sure like to try it on my new receiver but I only have one, heck the receiver even has two subwoofer connections, Sub1 and Sub2. Maybe its time for SubMersive #2 hmmm.

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Sub EQ HT:
Equalize and integrate two discrete subwoofers for fantastic bass.
post #5067 of 8164
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Originally Posted by MIkeDuke View Post

Wow, the ignore really does work.

You'd think he would realize how frequently he comes across as an as$ when multiple members in the same thread put him on their ignore lists. Then again, there are people who get off on intentionally being pri*ks to others.

Yeah, the ignore function is pretty sweet
post #5068 of 8164
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Originally Posted by audioguy View Post

by whose definition?

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Originally Posted by sb1 View Post

i wish you guys would stop quoting him. It makes the ignore list function obsolete.

classic! :d:d:d:d:d
post #5069 of 8164
Has anyone tried any of the wireless devices to set up their submersive? I am reconfiguring my HT/Living room and was wondering if I can remove some of the wires and go wireless... Please let me know if you guys think it will work well or not.

Thanks!
post #5070 of 8164
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Originally Posted by Jrunr View Post

Has anyone tried any of the wireless devices to set up their submersive? I am reconfiguring my HT/Living room and was wondering if I can remove some of the wires and go wireless... Please let me know if you guys think it will work well or not.

Thanks!

What kind of wireless devices are you referring to?
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