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post #691 of 8062
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Originally Posted by Mark Seaton View Post

I will need to talk with my account rep to confirm I have quoting sorted out on shipping to Canada, as it requires some convoluted efforts at the moment. I wanted to note than the $200 shipping estimate was a few weeks back and that it was to the Toronto area, which is much closer than some regions of Canada. The oversize charge for the packed dimensions make up about $45 USD of the fee shipped to the US or Canada. Canadian shipments get hit with another $45-50 USD fee for what FedEx describes as a "clearance entry fee." I suspect some of the furthest areas of Canada (from Chicago) could come in at up to $285 USD for total shipping costs.

My current understanding is that there should be no duty to be paid.

Also remember a packed SubMersive is roughly 30" x 30" x 23" and 138 lbs, so shipping options aren't as plentiful as in the case of a 12" cube.

Mark,

I have imported many loudspeakers from the US to Canada. The costs to ship to the buyer should be 1.)courier charge based on weight, size and distance, 2.) a brokerage fee for customs purposes, 3.) US to Can dollar currency conversion, then the buyer pays provincial sales tax on the total. Shipping company should handle all the paperwork on your behalf and they will pass these costs on to the buyer.
There are no duties to import loudspeakes made in the US to Canada.
post #692 of 8062
Any new owners of Seatons products?
post #693 of 8062
I will be a new owner any day now. I think there are a few of us who are waiting for the most recent batch to be finished and shipped (maybe a dozen give or take); so you should be seeing some new impressions soon.
post #694 of 8062
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Originally Posted by Adam-DiVine View Post

I will be a new owner any day now. I think there are a few of us who are waiting for the most recent batch to be finished and shipped (maybe a dozen give or take); so you should be seeing some new impressions soon.


Congrats. I await your impressions. I can't wait until I can wait for mine like you. I'm watching Lord of the Rings and I can only imagine what a submersive would do with this amazing soundtrack.
post #695 of 8062
WOW! I could have afforded the Submersive at the sale price and was in the market but never opened this thread!!!

Mark do you do this kind of thing from time to time?
post #696 of 8062
check his forum. I'm not sure when the sale ended or if it has quite ended yet. You may get lucky and be able to get one of the last ones on sale.
post #697 of 8062
Ok I found his board, miread the sale price ha... I'll save my pennies and possibly sometimes next year I should be ready since I just bought a PB13 Ultra....

Does he list the demensions of it anywhere?

the Pb13 was a big mistake for me because I can't place it anywhere where it works very well.
post #698 of 8062
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Originally Posted by goonstopher View Post

Ok I found his board, miread the sale price ha... I'll save my pennies and possibly sometimes next year I should be ready since I just bought a PB13 Ultra....

Does he list the demensions of it anywhere?

the Pb13 was a big mistake for me because I can't place it anywhere where it works very well.

24.25" W x 17.5" D x 25.5" H
weight about 120lbs I think. It is built sort "long" ways with the drivers on either side of the W dimension. I think there are pictures in the beginning of this thread.
post #699 of 8062
So about the same as the Pb13.... Damn I need a dedicvated area rather than a bedroom because I'll never have proper placement options.
post #700 of 8062
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Originally Posted by goonstopher View Post

So about the same as the Pb13.... Damn I need a dedicvated area rather than a bedroom because I'll never have proper placement options.

Just out of curiosity, could you stack a pair of HSU ULS-15's in your room?

Just off the top, I think a pair of ULS-15s would be pretty close to a Submersive in output and extension.

Maybe you would have been a good candidate for the PC -13 Ultra, since the cylinder footprint is rather small.
post #701 of 8062
Well I have the PB13 now... Its a good sub but I dont think any single sub can fill the middle of my room.
post #702 of 8062
You're taking the wrong approach.

If I were to venture a guess, I'd say that you're having phase cancellations. A lot of that going around.

You could add 3 more subs, but if their not properly intergrated it wouldn't make any difference.....other than to your bank account.
post #703 of 8062
I'll send you pics soon jim... haven't gotten a minutes to pull them up.
post #704 of 8062
So, how LOW does this sub play? Is it comparable to the HSU ULS-15? (dual drive)
post #705 of 8062
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Originally Posted by JimP View Post

You're taking the wrong approach.

If I were to venture a guess, I'd say that you're having phase cancellations. A lot of that going around.

You could add 3 more subs, but if their not properly intergrated it wouldn't make any difference.....other than to your bank account.

Jim do you have any links I can check out about how to fix "phase cancellation"...
post #706 of 8062
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Originally Posted by Jrunr View Post

So, how LOW does this sub play? Is it comparable to the HSU ULS-15? (dual drive)

A lot of people get it flat to 8Hz....
post #707 of 8062
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Originally Posted by Johnsteph10 View Post

A lot of people get it flat to 8Hz....

Which is insane! Especially for a sealed sub.
post #708 of 8062
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Originally Posted by Dbuudo07 View Post

Which is insane! Especially for a sealed sub.

Especially for a sealed sub? It would be much more noteworthy for a ported subs to be flat to 8hz.
post #709 of 8062
anyone w/a estimated ship date feb 6-13 get a shipping notification yet? i know mark is swamped right now but curious...
post #710 of 8062
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Originally Posted by Jrunr View Post

Is it comparable to the HSU ULS-15? (dual drive)

good question
post #711 of 8062
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Originally Posted by Johnsteph10 View Post

A lot of people get it flat to 8Hz....

at what SPL?
post #712 of 8062
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Originally Posted by bonedoc2be View Post

at what SPL?

Now this is a good question!

Anyone have an answer here?
post #713 of 8062
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Originally Posted by bonedoc2be View Post

at what SPL?

Not sure if anyone has done MAX readings at 8-10hz but on run of the mill signal sweeps the spl line is typically not to far from flat at that frequency. Well, maybe not total flat in some cases, but I think you get the point.
Rather than just post graphs here, I recommend that people go to Mark's forum and poke around there. Many people have posted graphs. I will give you hint on how to find them. On Mark's site sort the posts by name. Then go to the posts by Stress and n737nc. There a few more on the site and the good thing is there are rooms that are different sizes. Just poke around there.
post #714 of 8062
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Originally Posted by kawika36 View Post

anyone w/a estimated ship date feb 6-13 get a shipping notification yet? i know mark is swamped right now but curious...

I'm still waiting for mine. I really hope I am in the first batch!
post #715 of 8062
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Originally Posted by lalakersfan34 View Post

Especially for a sealed sub? It would be much more noteworthy for a ported subs to be flat to 8hz.

I should have said in the commercial subwoofer world, flat to 8hz is insane. I've never heard of another sealed design that can do that at usable spls. Most companies use ported designs to increase output.
post #716 of 8062
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Originally Posted by Dbuudo07 View Post

I should have said in the commercial subwoofer world, flat to 8hz is insane. I've never heard of another sealed design that can do that at usable spls. Most companies use ported designs to increase output.

See all this kills me!!

I wish I saved a few more dollars and got one over a PB13. The 13 is good but leaves me wanting a bit more (my room is baaaad).

Will it be impossible to blend these two? Should I just get a PC13 for my second sub so its a closer match?
post #717 of 8062
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Originally Posted by goonstopher View Post

See all this kills me!!

I wish I saved a few more dollars and got one over a PB13. The 13 is good but leaves me wanting a bit more (my room is baaaad).

Will it be impossible to blend these two? Should I just get a PC13 for my second sub so its a closer match?

I would not mix the two. Either get another PB13 Ultra, a PC13 Ultra or sell the ultra and get a SubMersive. IMHO mixing a ported and a sealed sub. even two high quality subs as the SVS and Marks', would present some challenges beyond the normal challenges that normally occur when you try and integrate two subs. But that is just my opinion. I have never heard an Ultra so I really can not make a guess as to what you may gain or lose in the switch.
post #718 of 8062
got my shipping notification today!!! The submersive should be here for this weekend. I will post some impressions as soon as I get it hooked up.
post #719 of 8062
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Originally Posted by adam-divine View Post

got my shipping notification today!!! The submersive should be here for this weekend. I will post some impressions as soon as i get it hooked up.

post #720 of 8062
I want my Terraform XLs, dern it!
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