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post #7261 of 9381
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Originally Posted by MIkeDuke View Post

Sorry my non answer was not helpful. But glad you got it all worked out smile.gif.
Don't worry, after all that gnashing of teeth and wailing he's not actually going to buy one.
post #7262 of 9381
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Originally Posted by Stereodude View Post

Don't worry, after all that gnashing of teeth and wailing he's not actually going to buy one.
Then and only then will he truly understand what it feels like to be "Submersified"
Chris
post #7263 of 9381
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Originally Posted by Stereodude View Post

Don't worry, after all that gnashing of teeth and wailing he's not actually going to buy one.

He was probably never going to buy one. We have a name for them in my business. His loss!!
post #7264 of 9381
I re-arranged my front Submersives last night and put them in the front corners. My corners are treated with corner bass traps (Gik sofit traps) and I didn't think that it would make much of a difference with the bass. Boy was I wrong! I thought that the seat vibrated before, now it rocks.
post #7265 of 9381
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Originally Posted by bsoko2 View Post

I re-arranged my front Submersives last night and put them in the front corners. My corners are treated with corner bass traps (Gik sofit traps) and I didn't think that it would make much of a difference with the bass. Boy was I wrong! I thought that the seat vibrated before, now it rocks.
So you put one in one corner and one in the other? How did you have them before. Glad a little movement made such a difference.
post #7266 of 9381
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Originally Posted by MIkeDuke View Post

So you put one in one corner and one in the other? How did you have them before. Glad a little movement made such a difference.

Had them against the wall about 1/3 length from the front with the 3rd sub against the rear wall centered (still there).
post #7267 of 9381
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Originally Posted by audioguy View Post

He was probably never going to buy one. We have a name for them in my business. His loss!!

And I have names for people who play backstabbing rumor monger games while people are on vacation. And businesses who disrespect customers, especially in these economic times, go out of business. Don't be quick to bad mouth customers as there are too many other businesses out there who do respect potential customers. Care to say what your business affiliation is and what the name is you have for these customers so in advance, potential customers know what you think of them? If you're going be public about what you think about your customers, be bold and be open as to what you think of them.

You guys never stop with the digging and drama. I'm on vacation in the Sierra high country. I check in to see what's what with you guys, just in time to see more immature sniping. Good for you guys. Lake Tahoe, shrouded in it's storm mantle was a visual delight and the Fall Sierra-Nevada colors, with snow dusted peaks are absolutely stunning. Stopped in at 8,400' to say hi to Bodie, California.

And for the record, I have already stated, I have dental work to pay for and need to knock the credit card down (between the dental and the card, about $8.5k worth) and then I can step up and buy a Rosenut HP with an eye on a second one. It would be nice to receive the subwoofer without an uncalled for layer of hate attached. Until I return from vacation, can you guys see if you can keep the uncalled for back biting under control. If just so this forum can represent maturity of interaction? And if you can't hold it together, at least hold off on the backstabbing until I come off vacation. I understand, some people can only feel good about themselves by putting other people down.

From Bridgeport, CA, it's South, down Hwy 395 to Yuma, AZ and then out to the California Central Coast in Cambria. The point, life is too short to waste on childish backstabbing drama. People get fired from good paying jobs for far less than what is posted on these pages. A suggestion guys, to those my comments apply to, grow up and try being nice.

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Edited by BeeMan458 - 11/2/12 at 2:55am
post #7268 of 9381
All those wasted posts when "just letting it go" is an option too.
Beeman
Getting the last word in(or post) is not as important as your familys vacation so
enjoy and take things with a grain of salt. If you do end up owning a Subm HP oneday you will
understand why "words are wasted" when trying to explain the "Submersive experience".
Not responding to posts that fire you up is not the same as "backing down" . It becomes a case of
"it is not what you say but what you do."
GoodLuck and BEE careful while driving
Chris
Edited by countryWV - 11/2/12 at 6:27am
post #7269 of 9381
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Originally Posted by bsoko2 View Post

I re-arranged my front Submersives last night and put them in the front corners. My corners are treated with corner bass traps (Gik sofit traps) and I didn't think that it would make much of a difference with the bass. Boy was I wrong! I thought that the seat vibrated before, now it rocks.

proving that room modes can be your friend... smile.gif
post #7270 of 9381
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Originally Posted by ccotenj View Post

proving that room modes can be your friend... smile.gif

. . . and the spl went up by 6+ db.
post #7271 of 9381
^^^

yea, not surprising after you corner loaded the subs... smile.gif
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Originally Posted by ccotenj View Post

^^^
yea, not surprising after you corner loaded the subs... smile.gif

Now if I got another submersive and stacked them 2 high in each front corner . . .
post #7273 of 9381
^^^

hey, you told us you were "done"... tongue.gif
post #7274 of 9381
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Originally Posted by ccotenj View Post

^^^
hey, you told us you were "done"... tongue.gif

All "ahoilcs" say that !!
post #7275 of 9381
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Originally Posted by bsoko2 View Post

. . . and the spl went up by 6+ db.

Bill,

What RC or EQ are you currently using? Did you re-run it after you moved the subs? If so, the SPL should not have changed. It should have been re-calibrated to the same level. The benefit of corner loading, (with recalibration), is an increase in system headroom. If you kept the levels the same as they were before, you're no longer calibrated properly. If that's what you want, that's fine. Just realize it's not the "correct" calibration.

Craig
post #7276 of 9381
^^^

i assumed that was a "raw" measurement, re: spl... but i shouldn't do that...

iirc, he's using an antimode... it wouldn't be surprising (correct me if i'm wrong, you know a lot more about this than i do) that corner loading the subs is giving the antimode a "better" spot to work from... possibly giving him better response in the area givin him the tactile sensation...

just a guess... if has graphs, it would eliminate the guess... smile.gif
post #7277 of 9381
Raw measurement with spl meter at the seat and I do use the Anti Mode 8033S.
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Been a long time since Ive visited this thread. My first gen subM is still doing great! Watched War Horse yesterday and the hoofbeats and cannon fire were awesome. I did get one clipping instance in a particular loud thump scene, maybe I should get the upgraded amp!
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Originally Posted by bsoko2 View Post

Now if I got another submersive and stacked them 2 high in each front corner . . .

^^Sounds like a good candidate to beta-test a Terraform XL...
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I re-arranged my subs a bit and the drivers are pretty close to the wall - 3.5 inches. Is that enough room between the driver and the wall?

thanks
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That's what I have mine and it's


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Originally Posted by carp View Post

I re-arranged my subs a bit and the drivers are pretty close to the wall - 3.5 inches. Is that enough room between the driver and the wall?
thanks
That's probably a tad close. I'd move it off another inch or so.
post #7283 of 9381
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Originally Posted by carp View Post

I re-arranged my subs a bit and the drivers are pretty close to the wall - 3.5 inches. Is that enough room between the driver and the wall?

thanks

iirc, mark said 3 inches minmum is good... so you should be good to go... smile.gif
post #7284 of 9381
^^^ Yep..You're right.
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Originally Posted by Mark Seaton View Post

You only need about 3" from the face of the driver to the wall for spacing. You can gain another 5/8" if you remove the grill. In my own system I usually have the amplifier facing the side wall with the long 24" dimension of the footprint running front-back. Also remember that in many homes you will have >1/2" for a baseboard or molding at the floor line, and you only need that 2.5-3" from the wall. The twist-locking (PowerCon) power connection and XLR connector protrude 2" from the box.

post #7285 of 9381
^^^

good to know i haven't killed off all of my brain cells... tongue.gif
post #7286 of 9381
Ok, great - thanks guys.

I did something a little crazy. I put both Submersives in the same corner stacked on each other. In my LP the frequency response sounds just as good, and I get more headroom. Rest of the room be damned because no one else that comes over here cares anyway. smile.gif
post #7287 of 9381

My first post in this thread, which I have read all the way through (phew!). I currently have two Submersive F2s sitting in a UK Customs shed at the airport waiting 'clearance'. They've been there since last Thursday. As you can imagine, my excitement and frustration are in perfect balance right now ;) As soon as they arrive and have been integrated into my system I will post my impressions here (along with any questions I have of course). I also have the OmniMic so I will be able to make and post some measurements once I am dialed in properly.

 

Other gear is Onkyo 5509 prepro, MK S150s, M&K SS150 Tripoles, M&K LCR 55 (height channels), and plenty of external amp power from Emotiva XPA-3 for LCR and 2 x UPA-2 for surround and heights. My old subs are 2 x SVS PC12-NSDs so I am going to get a significant upgrade in performance from the F2s. Why the F2?  For the smaller footprint - my HT room is *small* - smaller even than Mike Duke's (thanks Mike for all your encouragement and advice to others in this thread) so floor space is at a premium. I also 'only' have the 1000 watt amps as UK voltage is 230-240v, but in my room I don't expect to have headroom issues with two F2s :)  Oh yes, I have also extensively treated the room with bass traps in 8 of the 12 corners.

 

I'll report back when I have some positive news... Customs-willing.

post #7288 of 9381
Congrats! What finish did you get? You might have to posts some pics, regardless of finish. I look forward to your future contributions in this thread.
post #7289 of 9381
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Originally Posted by carp View Post

I re-arranged my subs a bit and the drivers are pretty close to the wall - 3.5 inches. Is that enough room between the driver and the wall?
thanks
I had mine pretty close to the wall at one point. I don't think there was any issue at all. I only moved it because Craig wanted to experiment to see if moving it out of the corner would give it a better starting FR for the EQ and it did. But I was also told that it was OK to have it that close to a wall. So you should be good to go.
post #7290 of 9381
Hey guys,

I was wondering what is the connection type for the original 1000 watt ICEamp for the Submersive?
I currently have a Belkin subwoofer cable. It goes into one of the left right slots in polk sub which I have at the moment. Is this the slot that the submersive uses?


Hope someone can help me with this!


Thanks!
Ash
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