Seaton Sound SubMersive1 - Page 244

My first post in this thread, which I have read all the way through (phew!). I currently have two Submersive F2s sitting in a UK Customs shed at the airport waiting 'clearance'. They've been there since last Thursday. As you can imagine, my excitement and frustration are in perfect balance right now ;) As soon as they arrive and have been integrated into my system I will post my impressions here (along with any questions I have of course). I also have the OmniMic so I will be able to make and post some measurements once I am dialed in properly.

Other gear is Onkyo 5509 prepro, MK S150s, M&K SS150 Tripoles, M&K LCR 55 (height channels), and plenty of external amp power from Emotiva XPA-3 for LCR and 2 x UPA-2 for surround and heights. My old subs are 2 x SVS PC12-NSDs so I am going to get a significant upgrade in performance from the F2s. Why the F2?  For the smaller footprint - my HT room is *small* - smaller even than Mike Duke's (thanks Mike for all your encouragement and advice to others in this thread) so floor space is at a premium. I also 'only' have the 1000 watt amps as UK voltage is 230-240v, but in my room I don't expect to have headroom issues with two F2s :)  Oh yes, I have also extensively treated the room with bass traps in 8 of the 12 corners.

I'll report back when I have some positive news... Customs-willing.

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Originally Posted by mphfrom77 

Congrats! What finish did you get? You might have to posts some pics, regardless of finish. I look forward to your future contributions in this thread.

Thanks!  I got the black maple as this will match my existing speakers well. I will post some pics if possible along with my report.

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Originally Posted by batt50 

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Originally Posted by kbarnes701 

My first post in this thread, which I have read all the way through (phew!). I currently have two Submersive F2s sitting in a UK Customs shed at the airport waiting 'clearance'. They've been there since last Thursday. As you can imagine, my excitement and frustration are in perfect balance right now As soon as they arrive and have been integrated into my system I will post my impressions here (along with any questions I have of course). I also have the OmniMic so I will be able to make and post some measurements once I am dialed in properly.

Other gear is Onkyo 5509 prepro, MK S150s, M&K SS150 Tripoles, M&K LCR 55 (height channels), and plenty of external amp power from Emotiva XPA-3 for LCR and 2 x UPA-2 for surround and heights. My old subs are 2 x SVS PC12-NSDs so I am going to get a significant upgrade in performance from the F2s. Why the F2?  For the smaller footprint - my HT room is *small* - smaller even than Mike Duke's (thanks Mike for all your encouragement and advice to others in this thread) so floor space is at a premium. I also 'only' have the 1000 watt amps as UK voltage is 230-240v, but in my room I don't expect to have headroom issues with two F2s  Oh yes, I have also extensively treated the room with bass traps in 8 of the 12 corners.

I'll report back when I have some positive news... Customs-willing.

Congrats !!!!!! I would like to see a pic of the look on your face once you hear them.
That would be a first.

LOL!  Thanks! Is it possible to take a picture of someone's jaw hitting the floor with an iPhone camera?  :)

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Originally Posted by ccotenj 

hey keith, welcome to submersive land... good to see you in here...

Thanks Chris - it is good to be here! I don't think I have ever been so excited with anticipation wrt to any other HT component I have ever had! I have still to read just one negative comment about the SubM... the enthusiasm that comes across in this lengthy thread is palpable.

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Originally Posted by kbarnes701 


[My old subs are 2 x SVS PC12-NSDs so I am going to get a significant upgrade in performance from the F2s.

You are going to have a brain aneurism. About 4 years ago, I went from two Velodyne DD-18's PLUS two SVS PC-13's to two SubMersives (1000 watt version) in a room three times the size of yours and I still can't get the smile off my face. (I since upgraded the amps and bought two more only because I could not stand the lack of symmetry). I can assure you that you have not EVER heard bass in your room.

LOL!  I am sure you are right!

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Originally Posted by kbarnes701 

Thanks Chris - it is good to be here! I don't think I have ever been so excited with anticipation wrt to any other HT component I have ever had! I have still to read just one negative comment about the SubM... the enthusiasm that comes across in this lengthy thread is palpable.

I will provide one negative comment: The darn things are addictive. On the positive side, I will tell you that adding the SubMersives provided the highest fun factor and greatest improvement in my home theater in the 20 years that I have had one.

I'm anticipating the same. I also like having that nice feeling that I will never need to upgrade my subs again. I can’t go the route of adding more F2s even if it made sense - there just ain't any space for more!

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Originally Posted by kbarnes701 

I can’t go the route of adding more F2s even if it made sense - there just ain't any space for more!

WRONG!! There is ALWAYS ROOM FOR MORE. If you have an eight foot ceiling, you can stack three together and have 6 of them. You can never have too much woofage !!

Hahaha. Good point in fact. I was forgetting I can turn the F2s on their sides.... hmmm.... that makes one about 20 inches high.... 96 divided by 20 - FOUR high!  Each side of the room - that'll be EIGHT then....  The French have experimented with using sound as a military weapon... I wonder if Mark is aware of that? :)

'You can never have too much woofage' ought to be a bumper sticker :)

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Originally Posted by RUR 

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Originally Posted by kbarnes701 

My first post in this thread, which I have read all the way through (phew!). I currently have two Submersive F2s sitting in a UK Customs shed at the airport waiting 'clearance'. ....

A purchase you'll never regret. Enjoy!

Thanks, to you and everyone, for the warm welcome into the thread and for the good wishes. I just know I am taking my small HT to the next, and probably ultimate, level now.

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Originally Posted by kbarnes701 

Thanks, to you and everyone, for the warm welcome into the thread and for the good wishes. I just know I am taking my small HT to the next, and probably ultimate, level now.

Wow, 2 F2's. Sounds like you have taken Marks signature line to heart. Congratulations and don't even give those Catalysts a thought as new LCR"S to match up with your F2's ...;)

:)  Thanks. Fortunately (or unfortunately, depending on how you look at it) the Catalysts really are just too big to physically accommodate in my room.... otherwise.... 

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Originally Posted by Vincent Kompany 

quick question: how well does the subM HP perform when crossed at, say, 100 or 110 hz?

Mark has actually recommended that, measurements etc willing, I cross over my F2s at 100 Hz or 120Hz - this is to LCR set of MK S150s. I'll have to take the actual in-room performance into account of course but I am hoping that I get a flattish response in the XO region with 100Hz - I am sure the articulation and other terrific characteristics of the SubMs will reward me with that sort of XO. I will also try 120Hz per Mark's suggestion. Measurements and listening will then guide me.

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Originally Posted by BrolicBeast 

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Originally Posted by kbarnes701 

My first post in this thread, which I have read all the way through (phew!). I currently have two Submersive F2s sitting in a UK Customs shed at the airport waiting 'clearance'. They've been there since last Thursday. As you can imagine, my excitement and frustration are in perfect balance right now As soon as they arrive and have been integrated into my system I will post my impressions here (along with any questions I have of course). I also have the OmniMic so I will be able to make and post some measurements once I am dialed in properly.

Other gear is Onkyo 5509 prepro, MK S150s, M&K SS150 Tripoles, M&K LCR 55 (height channels), and plenty of external amp power from Emotiva XPA-3 for LCR and 2 x UPA-2 for surround and heights. My old subs are 2 x SVS PC12-NSDs so I am going to get a significant upgrade in performance from the F2s. Why the F2?  For the smaller footprint - my HT room is *small* - smaller even than Mike Duke's (thanks Mike for all your encouragement and advice to others in this thread) so floor space is at a premium. I also 'only' have the 1000 watt amps as UK voltage is 230-240v, but in my room I don't expect to have headroom issues with two F2s  Oh yes, I have also extensively treated the room with bass traps in 8 of the 12 corners.

I'll report back when I have some positive news... Customs-willing.

As a fellow dual F2 owner, I bid thee welcome to the Submersive F2 family! I must warn you that your teeth (and other bones) WILL rattle with ULF!!!

Thanks Brolic!  I have followed your comments and review of the F2s closely and also watched your videos on YouTube - your experience and enthusiasm with the F2s was partly responsible for my decision to go that way. I will surely keep you posted! :)

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Originally Posted by audioguy 

You can never have too much woofage !!

That is great, thanks for making my day!!

I might get this slogan printed on a T-shirt :)