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post #8581 of 9372
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Originally Posted by jlpowell84 View Post

Oh I got ya. Yea it's already gonna be 7.5 hours on the road today though. Perhaps another time. What kinda gear do you run?

My gear is in my signature except for the sw. I never know about that. At this time a DIY dual PR 12” SDX. Anyway that's nice of you..Thank you for the thought. It's wet today so be carfull.
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My gear is in my signature except for the sw. I never know about that. At this time a DIY dual PR 12” SDX. Anyway that's nice of you..Thank you for the thought. It's wet today so be carfull.

Yea it's crazy wet! Last night in Eugene it was like monsoon type weather. The Oregon vs California game last night was crazy wet, thick sheets of water!
post #8583 of 9372
Well two Submersives about killed me. Wake up call to how out of shape I am in. I used to feel like this after a p90x workout! Headin south...
post #8584 of 9372
Congrats on the new additions !!!
Pics when you have them installed!
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Yea! Actually moving to a new rental that has been stalled this weekend by rain and being sick. So I am taking them back to my current place and already have my AVR, two little satellite speakers set up so I could test my new amp. Now I will just carry in the Submersives, insert and play!
post #8586 of 9372
Just gonna have a little fun before I move them in to the new rental this week!




Edited by jlpowell84 - 9/29/13 at 4:28pm
post #8587 of 9372
Ah yes !!!
there you go !!!
post #8588 of 9372
You placed the one on top of the other by yourself???
post #8589 of 9372
Sub awesomeness! I can tell from just looking those they are great subs! Big driver, big enclosure and power supply. It would be nice if you didn’t have to go to work today. tongue.gif
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You placed the one on top of the other by yourself???

 

If he did, he may want to bookmark this page... ;)

post #8591 of 9372
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Originally Posted by jlpowell84 View Post

Just gonna have a little fun before I move them in to the new rental this week!


Hey, are those your left and right mains next to that gargantuan amp on the table? Those subs make them look so small!!wink.gifbiggrin.gif
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You placed the one on top of the other by yourself???

I actually carried one out of Bill's room up over his Berkline couch to the entry/hall where we hand trucked it to the SUV. The second I slid on the top to the entry. I lifted both into the SUV. I had help at home because I was spent by then. I am 5'11" 245. Broad football type build. Yes it was crazy, they killed me!
post #8593 of 9372
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Hey, are those your left and right mains next to that gargantuan amp on the table? Those subs make them look so small!!wink.gifbiggrin.gif

Those are Definitive Technology Pro Monitor 1000's. I just broke them out to test all the channels on the new Sherbourn amp. I will be getting LCR 212 LP Noesis in March. I have these two JBL XPL 140's to run until then as mains. 88db sensitivity (18 yrs old), 6ohm, 500 watt max. Having the bottom 8" woofers rebuilt at Orange County speaker. So I will be running a 4.2 system until spring. The Submersives definitely go deeper than my single HSU VTF 15 H!

These are the JBLs.

They have a piano black finish, really nice!
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If he did, he may want to bookmark this page... wink.gif

I got it Keith. I work in the power transmission industry. Heavy bearings, pulleys, gearboxes, etc. I am always smart but got love crazy with the subs!
post #8595 of 9372
I recalibrated my system with the dual Submersives and got it to sound just like the Quad setup. Jason, with the duals you will never need any other subs in this lifetime.

Bill
post #8596 of 9372
Yes, the super Lycan scene has all of the hollow doors in the kitchen/living area flapping uncontrollably!
post #8597 of 9372
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Originally Posted by kbarnes701 View Post

If he did, he may want to bookmark this page... wink.gif

I got it Keith. I work in the power transmission industry. Heavy bearings, pulleys, gearboxes, etc. I am always smart but got love crazy with the subs!

 

:)  They will be the last subs you ever buy I can guarantee. Unless you go for two more of course!

post #8598 of 9372
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Originally Posted by bsoko2 View Post

I recalibrated my system with the dual Submersives and got it to sound just like the Quad setup. Jason, with the duals you will never need any other subs in this lifetime.

Bill

 

This is so true.  My current calibration (no smoothing):

 

 

Just look how flat they are to 10Hz! 

 

Here's the overall response:

 

This is without the +3D boost to the subs that I use for real listening. Also DEQ is off in this graph too. I'm flat +/- 3dB from XO to 20kHz and flat +/- 3dB 20Hz to XO too, allowing for the deliberate boost that I've applied with Pgm 2 (see below). All in all, I could not be happier.

 

Incidentally, this is with Audyssey on, calibrated using Pgm 1 but then switching the subs to Pgm 2 post-cal. I did dally with Pgm 1 post-cal for a while, and while it has its advantages, I am addicted to room-shattering bass it seems, so I have gone back to Pgm 2.

post #8599 of 9372
Yes, I tried PGM 2 for playing around last night. Didn't run audyssey on that little funky setup. Just set levels evening with a spl meter.

Keith am I remembering right that you set a 100hz crossover from your Submersives to mains?
post #8600 of 9372
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Originally Posted by jlpowell84 View Post

Yes, I tried PGM 2 for playing around last night. Didn't run audyssey on that little funky setup. Just set levels evening with a spl meter.

Keith am I remembering right that you set a 100hz crossover from your Submersives to mains?

 

Yes, following advice from Mark who had had extensive experience with my model of speakers (M&K S150s).  I currently have my centre XO set at 80Hz though. This came about as a result of optimising the splice using REW. I found the overall smoothest response at the splice came with the R&L XOs set at 100Hz and the Centre XO at at 80Hz. There is some compromise involved - I could get a slightly smoother blend at the L&R with all three set to 100Hz XO, but the centre/sub blend was worse. Adjusting the centre XO to 80Hz made the centre much better at the expense of a slight worsening for the L&R. But overall, this was the best I could get it.   I have no idea of the reasoning behind this - it is just based on lots of measurements and tweaks as per the Sub Distance Crossover Tweak Guide. I suspect it has something to do with the relative positions of the speakers in the room - the L&R are closer to (but not in) corners and the centre is way away from corners (obviously!). Experimentation seems to be the best advice.

post #8601 of 9372
Yes, I am a couple weeks away from experimenting with REW!
post #8602 of 9372
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Originally Posted by kbarnes701 View Post

This is so true.  My current calibration (no smoothing):




Just look how flat they are to 10Hz! 

Here's the overall response:



This is without the +3D boost to the subs that I use for real listening. Also DEQ is off in this graph too. I'm flat +/- 3dB from XO to 20kHz and flat +/- 3dB 20Hz to XO too, allowing for the deliberate boost that I've applied with Pgm 2 (see below). All in all, I could not be happier.

Incidentally, this is with Audyssey on, calibrated using Pgm 1 but then switching the subs to Pgm 2 post-cal. I did dally with Pgm 1 post-cal for a while, and while it has its advantages, I am addicted to room-shattering bass it seems, so I have gone back to Pgm 2.

That first response is incredibly smooth. I wish i had that!
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Originally Posted by jlpowell84 View Post

Yes, I am a couple weeks away from experimenting with REW!

Congratulations on the new subs smile.gif
post #8604 of 9372
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Originally Posted by Ashi777 View Post

Congratulations on the new subs smile.gif

Hey thanks Ashi! You ever make any progress on a smoother response?
post #8605 of 9372
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Originally Posted by jlpowell84 View Post

I actually carried one out of Bill's room up over his Berkline couch to the entry/hall where we hand trucked it to the SUV. The second I slid on the top to the entry. I lifted both into the SUV. I had help at home because I was spent by then. I am 5'11" 245. Broad football type build. Yes it was crazy, they killed me!

Congrats on the subs.....Small Fry.
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Originally Posted by jlpowell84 View Post

Hey thanks Ashi! You ever make any progress on a smoother response?

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Nope, not yet. But I have found a solution. Its going to involve moving a lot of stuff around in the room. Will get right on to it after my exams are over!
post #8607 of 9372
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Originally Posted by Ashi777 View Post

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Nope, not yet. But I have found a solution. Its going to involve moving a lot of stuff around in the room. Will get right on to it after my exams are over!

Nice, what about a mini dsp? They give you parametric EQ capabilities
post #8608 of 9372
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Originally Posted by Ashi777 View Post

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Nope, not yet. But I have found a solution. Its going to involve moving a lot of stuff around in the room. Will get right on to it after my exams are over!
Just don't tear out any walls! eek.gif

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Craig
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Just don't tear out any walls! eek.gif

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Craig

We haven't heard from him lately !
post #8610 of 9372
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Originally Posted by audioguy View Post

We haven't heard from him lately !
Audioguy, how are your Submersives going? Still got the 4 or or have you added more?
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