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post #451 of 5209
12/11/06 at 6:45am
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Originally Posted by msmetts View Post

Does this unit have a genuine HDCD decoder or does it just have the ability to play an HDCD?

Genuine decoder. What it does not have is a display on the front panel that indicates that it's kicked in -- only an on-screen display that pops up for a few seconds when you first hit play. But yes, it does decode HDCD.
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post #452 of 5209
12/11/06 at 7:21am
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Originally Posted by Jack Texas View Post

Yeah baby.... my 981 has arrived..... and now I am going to get an adapter for it....
http://www.kgjack.com/oppo981HDrack.JPG

Ewww....a VCR!
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post #453 of 5209
12/11/06 at 7:28am
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Originally Posted by javry View Post

why in the world would a TV upscale to 1080p but not recieve it? I don't get it.

That's why I bought a Mits compared to the Sony, Toshiba, and Samsung models in the store. I don't get it either!
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post #454 of 5209
12/11/06 at 7:47am
Hey there,

I just got my 981 on Saturday and hooked it up to my Mits 65732 using the enclosed HDMI cable. I watched a few Divx movies that looked ok, but then I decided to watch a movie last night and I was a tad disappointed. Since my TV accepts 1080p natively I set the DVD player to output in 1080p and I left everything else set to factory defaults. When the movie started it had white text against a black background (opening credits) and the black was not a uniform black, it was blocky with black and gray. I am unsure if this is macroblocking. I played with the resolution and the black looked best at 480p and 1080i, in essence it was solid black with no evidence of gray. I let the movie play and since this movie came out in the 90s the picture was grainy (which I expected). I then set the player to 1080i because that was the best between the 480p and 1080i.

Is the gray blotches macroblocking? And why would lowering the resolution clear this up? Could it be the scaler in my TV is removing the macroblocking errors?

Thanks!
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post #455 of 5209
12/11/06 at 7:55am
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Originally Posted by Oliwa View Post

That's why I bought a Mits compared to the Sony, Toshiba, and Samsung models in the store. I don't get it either!

This was not unusual when 1080p HD TVs first came on the market. Since there were (and still are) no HD TV broadcasts available in 1080p, the thinking was that the TV would have to convert any incoming broadcast signal to 1080p anyway.

Then the hucksters got into the act. Hype 1080p as the "Next Big Thing." http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-6449_7-6661274-1.html

Dana
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post #456 of 5209
12/11/06 at 8:55am
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

HDMI is digital, so it will be impossible to do a VGA conversion.

DVI is digital too, but still I have a working DVI to component adapter for my ATI graphics card going to my RCA F38310 HDTV.

Seems that a HDMI to component adapter should be quite possible.
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post #457 of 5209
12/11/06 at 9:15am
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Originally Posted by Oliwa View Post

Hey there,

I just got my 981 on Saturday and hooked it up to my Mits 65732 using the enclosed HDMI cable. I watched a few Divx movies that looked ok, but then I decided to watch a movie last night and I was a tad disappointed. Since my TV accepts 1080p natively I set the DVD player to output in 1080p and I left everything else set to factory defaults. When the movie started it had white text against a black background (opening credits) and the black was not a uniform black, it was blocky with black and gray. I am unsure if this is macroblocking. I played with the resolution and the black looked best at 480p and 1080i, in essence it was solid black with no evidence of gray. I let the movie play and since this movie came out in the 90s the picture was grainy (which I expected). I then set the player to 1080i because that was the best between the 480p and 1080i.

Is the gray blotches macroblocking? And why would lowering the resolution clear this up? Could it be the scaler in my TV is removing the macroblocking errors?

Thanks!

When I first hooked up my 981 to my Mits 65732 it looked pretty bad, but I remembered that I hadn't set up the video settings on that HDMI input yet and it was still on factory torch mode. Once I calibrated my Mits 65732 with DVE, the 981 looked great on my set.
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post #458 of 5209
12/11/06 at 9:45am
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Originally Posted by DKDiveDude View Post

DVI is digital too, but still I have a working DVI to component adapter for my ATI graphics card going to my RCA F38310 HDTV.

Seems that a HDMI to component adapter should be quite possible.

There are some DVI-to-VGA and DVI-to-component adapters around - they are basically video DAC's. The trick is finding one that is also HDCP compliant. Odds are that your adapter is not, meaning that it wouldn't work with HDMI. This one used by Jack Texas is HDCP compliant and could be used with HDMI sources, but as a general rule I assume that such devices are not HDCP compliant until I can prove differently.
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post #459 of 5209
12/11/06 at 9:48am
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Originally Posted by membot View Post

When I first hooked up my 981 to my Mits 65732 it looked pretty bad, but I remembered that I hadn't set up the video settings on that HDMI input yet and it was still on factory torch mode. Once I calibrated my Mits 65732 with DVE, the 981 looked great on my set.

I used my Avia disc to calibrate and after I adjusted my contrast, brightness, and sharpness the picture was not very bright and didn't pop. I increased the brightness a bit as well as the contrast and the picture looks better, but like I said in my original post, the 1080i looked better than 1080p.
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post #460 of 5209
12/11/06 at 10:06am
Anyone using 981 with Onkyo TX-SR674? Any issues? I am asking because I am experiencing video dropouts with my Samsung HD960 when connected through the receiver and wondering if switching to Oppo would fix it.

Thanks!
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post #461 of 5209
12/11/06 at 10:47am
I know that the 981 has a DTS decoder based on other info in the thread. However, I wanted to make sure it would pass the DTS audio over the HDMI since that appears to be missing on many of the competing models.
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post #462 of 5209
12/11/06 at 10:58am
I haven't tried it (no HDMI support in my surround processor), but my understanding is that it passes exactly the same bitstreams over HDMI as it does over SPDIF - which would include DTS. Others around here with HDMI receivers or processors may be able to offer first-hand confirmation of that.
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post #463 of 5209
12/11/06 at 11:37am
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Originally Posted by Oliwa View Post

When the movie started it had white text against a black background (opening credits) and the black was not a uniform black, it was blocky with black and gray. I am unsure if this is macroblocking. I played with the resolution and the black looked best at 480p and 1080i, in essence it was solid black with no evidence of gray. I let the movie play and since this movie came out in the 90s the picture was grainy (which I expected). I then set the player to 1080i because that was the best between the 480p and 1080i.

Is the gray blotches macroblocking? And why would lowering the resolution clear this up? Could it be the scaler in my TV is removing the macroblocking errors?

Thanks!

Macroblocking should show up in every resolution. Are you positive that the set is properly calibrated at 1080p? It sounds like you are seeing BTB macroblocks that should not be visible. A quick and dirty test to see if it's BTB calibration go to setup->video->RGB ...-> and set to enhanced, if the black is still blotchy then it's not the BTB calibration.

The enhanced setting blows out BTB and WTW at the player and is normally only used for computer monitors, but here it's a handy test for clalibration.
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post #464 of 5209
12/11/06 at 12:28pm
Sorry if this is a repeat, but I am in a hurry and don' t have time to peruse this entire thread...

I just ordered my 981HD and am on my way to pick it up locally...

I have a Sony 60A2000 and my current DVD player is not even a progressive scan unit (it is a very old unit)...

I am seeing the discussions on "Macroblocking", etc... Is this the best player for me to be getting at this point?

What the heck does "Macroblocking" mean to me on a day-to-day basis?

Thanks all...
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post #465 of 5209
12/11/06 at 12:40pm
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What the heck does "Macroblocking" mean to me on a day-to-day basis?

Probably not much.

Since you live close enough to pick-up/drop-off then what's the worry, hook it up, calibrate, test for 29 days and if you have any trouble return it for the 970.
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post #466 of 5209
12/11/06 at 12:41pm
I've seen reports in this thread that the Sony SXRD's (specifically your A2000) have not had macroblocking issues, and since they are 1080p displays the 981HD would seem to be your best bet.
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post #467 of 5209
12/11/06 at 12:44pm
Thanks gonk/snowmoon!

Really appreciate your help here... The only "downside" have i have seen so far (and not sure how much of a downside it really is) is that the subwoofer crossover is fixed at 80hz...

I am off to pick this bad boy up now!
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post #468 of 5209
12/11/06 at 12:49pm
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Originally Posted by gonk View Post

I haven't tried it (no HDMI support in my surround processor), but my understanding is that it passes exactly the same bitstreams over HDMI as it does over SPDIF - which would include DTS. Others around here with HDMI receivers or processors may be able to offer first-hand confirmation of that.

I'll be glad to report when I can. But, at the moment, my 981 - having crossed the country from CA. to Maine - is sitting at the FEDEX Ground terminal because that service doesn't deliver on Mondays. Grrrr.

Dana
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post #469 of 5209
12/11/06 at 12:51pm
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Originally Posted by drbonbi View Post

I'll be glad to report when I can. But, at the moment, my 981 - having crossed the country from CA. to Maine - is sitting at the FEDEX Ground terminal because that service doesn't deliver on Mondays. Grrrr.

Dana


Got mine today from FedEx ground ( At least I think it was ground... it was the cheap shipping ).
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post #470 of 5209
12/11/06 at 1:20pm
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Originally Posted by drbonbi View Post

I'll be glad to report when I can. But, at the moment, my 981 - having crossed the country from CA. to Maine - is sitting at the FEDEX Ground terminal because that service doesn't deliver on Mondays. Grrrr.

Dana

Ah, FedEx Home Delivery... FedEx is headquartered here in Memphis, but even though they provide a nice bit of support for the local economy I still find that their Home Delivery service tends to be excessively difficult to deal with.
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post #471 of 5209
12/11/06 at 1:21pm
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Originally Posted by snowmoon View Post

Got mine today from FedEx ground ( At least I think it was ground... it was the cheap shipping ).

Gee, thanks for sharing. That makes me feel better.

Actually, I made a mistake. Mine is coming FEDEX Home (Blue/Green logo.) aka really cheap delivery.

Dana
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post #472 of 5209
12/11/06 at 1:26pm
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Originally Posted by snowmoon View Post

A quick and dirty test to see if it's BTB calibration go to setup->video->RGB

I was unaware of the setting! It's not in the manual and is off the bottom the screen on that menu.

I'm not clear what "enhanced" does. I still have to adjust Brightness and Contrast in the player in order to see BTB and WTW on the display. This was not the case on the 971.

-Bill
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post #473 of 5209
12/11/06 at 3:38pm
I am thinking about getting the DV-981HD , You guys think will work good with the Vizio VX37L.
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post #474 of 5209
12/11/06 at 4:07pm
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Originally Posted by drbonbi View Post

I'll be glad to report when I can. But, at the moment, my 981 - having crossed the country from CA. to Maine - is sitting at the FEDEX Ground terminal because that service doesn't deliver on Mondays. Grrrr.

Dana

I am in the same boat. It was put on a local fedex truck very early Saturday morning... I got a TV delivery from Fedex on Saturday that was also put on a truck the same time. So basically they came to my house late on Saturday evening around 8:45, brought the TV a gift to my mother-inlaw... but not the 981. I got the same we don't deliver Fedex home on Monday stuff... Pretty lame.
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post #475 of 5209
12/11/06 at 4:28pm
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

I was unaware of the setting! It's not in the manual and is off the bottom the screen on that menu.

I'm not clear what "enhanced" does. I still have to adjust Brightness and Contrast in the player in order to see BTB and WTW on the display. This was not the case on the 971.

-Bill

I ran across it by accident and then looked it up.

Enhanced blows out BTB and WTW for proper display on PC monitors that don't have a brightness/contrast setting. It is in the manual, at least in the PDF I read this afternoon. Generally you want to leave it off unless it's the only way to get BTB and WTW to calibrate properly.
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post #476 of 5209
12/11/06 at 4:41pm
Picked mine up locally this afternoon... Will be checking out the quality this evening...

Man, they packaged it very nicely... Comes wrapped in a nice "high class" looking black slip... Probably not all that expensive to package it this way, but I was expecting the typical clear plastic bag wrapper!
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post #477 of 5209
12/11/06 at 4:46pm
More later... but so far I would say I can see very subtle improvements in 1080p over 720p with a 971 on my 42PX60U. I will confirm my suspictions later with a full DVE setup and resolution check.
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post #478 of 5209
12/11/06 at 5:45pm
TIP: For those who are using the 981 for watching your PAL DVD's, I have found that using video2 and setting tv type to NTSC (default is AUTO) works just perfectly for me. I was previously having trouble reading some PAL dvd's until switching tv type to NTSC.

-Bruce
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post #479 of 5209
12/11/06 at 5:49pm
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Originally Posted by rsxwolf View Post

TIP: For those who are using the 981 for watching your PAL DVD's, I have found that using video2 and setting tv type to NTSC (default is AUTO) works just perfectly for me. I was previously having trouble reading some PAL dvd's until switching tv type to NTSC.

-Bruce

That's funny...the default is NTSC on mine.
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post #480 of 5209
12/11/06 at 5:53pm
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Originally Posted by roadsterdoc View Post

That's funny...the default is NTSC on mine.


Yea, it says the default is NTSC in the manual as well, but for some reason my player was defaulted to AUTO...maybe it was just mine...oh well....


Cheers
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