Black Hawk Down review....best P/Q on either format.

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I am definetely getting this one.

I just hope the reviewer has seen all the high definition movies on both formats to make that statement. There are quite a few ref. titles that people have endorsed.

best PQ doesn't seem good enough for a 5 out of 5 a DVDTALK and highdefdigest
http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/read.php?ID=25207
http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/blackhawkdown.html

I don't know about best PQ...but it's certainly at the top for SQ.

I'm just saying highdef gave Enemy of the State and The Transporter the better PQ rating. You must love BR quite a bit to defend it so strongly.

Well DVDTalk has many editors and only a few are credible. It's High DEF Digest and no they are not biased. In fact, alot of recent BD releases have gotten 4 stars of higher. And BHD is not that great, a solid 4 if you ask me.

I've only seen little pieces of BHD, but there are some weird issues there. Could be in the master, but there are some things that don't look right (like a bad halo like effect that is pretty thick around one guy).

--Darin

The sound was unbelievable in this one. Makes me glad the Panny has 7 analog outs. Of course when that firmware arrives...

Darin it does have slight EE, like most Sony stuff, Tears had EE more severe, neither are to a point of ruining either, but they are there

BHD also has very slight black clipping, but the DVD was the same

BBHD is 27 Mbps Mpeg2 and it shows, not one compression artifact or posterization, unlike Tears which has a few of both

I would give both a 4 out of 5 on video, my reference for a video 5 would be Red Dragon

5 out of 5 for each on audio, they both rock hard in PCM

-Gary

For the past 6 months all Ive been paying attention to is PQ. When I finally got around to hooking up the analogs and watching this movie, I remembered what got me into this hobby...... the audio!!!

I just watched it on a Samsung 61" 1080p DLP RPTV with picture "enhancements" turned off, and my new PS3 via HDMI. Yes, I know the DLP chip uses wobulation so I'm not getting every single little pixel available (it isn't my TV), but it still looked pretty darn good.

It's not prettily photographed (very gritty and grimy), but I saw only slight EE (there really should be none--- studios take heed!) and virtually no MPEG artifacts even with ultra fast moving objects.

Detail could have been a tad better in some shots, but it could be the digital post processing that Ridley Scott subjected the negatives to for stylized effects. Hard to tell without having Ridley compare the master print to this disc.

Can't wait to hear it on a system with HDMI connections! I think this is supposed to be one of Sony's first 24 bit LPCM tracks if I'm not mistaken.

Dan

I don't think BHD is the best quality of any format. King Kong looks more polished. But I can see how someone could make that claim. Some of the bright sceneries look very sharp and gorgeous!!

The AQ on BHD is outstanding. Among the very best.

By a halo I meant something much bigger than that. I'm not sure what part of the movie it was in as somebody else was showing me, but it was almost like a bubble of distortion around one guy that I think would have been measured in inches on an 8' screen. If the shot had been in front a blue screen I might have thought it was some bad special effects, but I think he was near the beach or something like that and it looked like a real shot except for that weird effect.

--Darin

I own BHD down...definitely NOT the best PQ "on either format", but certainly a solid film transfer.

The sound however...wow...

Red Dragon huh? I've had that sitting on my shelf since it arrived. I'm gonna have to make it my next watch now. Thanks for the suggestion.

Yeah the audio is unbelievable. Glad I'm not the only one noticing the halo issues though, it's in just about every scene however slight. Even the worst HD-DVD in terms of EE (The Italian Job) doesn't look this bad.

the best pq in both formats? from this grainy of a movie? even if it is intended to be there (which it is) this is hardly the pq winner overall, maybe in blu-ray but not overall. Not even close imo.

There's good PQ because of detail, and I agree completely. This has a lot of detail down to the sweat and the pores on faces.

But there's also PQ from pure vivid colors, eye candy material that says : "Pretty picture!"... There's nothing really pretty here. The closest is the blackhawks moving in to mogadishu, and with the detail of the buildings. Once the dust kicks up and blood splattering everywhere, the pretty picture side of it pretty much is gone.

There is a lot of gore in this movie. Want to know what a large calibre bullet going through someone's neck looks like, you have it here. Severed hand from RPG hit, got that too.

I like it not because of the gore, but because it tells a good story. Unfortunately, it is not a movie you can show to friends with children, so not good demo material.

I had the superbit version SD DVD and it was amazing. I could only imagine the HD version, BRD or HD-DVD. However, the movie is kinda sad and knowing the lead character the film is based on came home from Mogadishu and molested his younger daughter prevents me from wanting to watch the movie over and over.

Geeeze. I didn't know that. Now I have a bad taste in my mouth for this film as well.

Considering that the location where this film was shot looks nothing like Somalia, I think it's best not to think of this film as being so closely tied to the events or people it was based on.

Agreed.

To the poster making the claim, link please.