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Iamm NTD36HD by Novatron

post #1 of 515
12/5/06 at 6:55am
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Hello to all European AVSForum members,

I recently purchased from eBay Germany the excellent HD media player by the Korean company "Novatron" called IAMM NTD36HD or IAMM NTD-36 HD and would like to start this thread on issues that you faced and resolved, including comments related to this player *only*.

It appears that a player with similar looks and specifications has hit the US market under the name Eureka LX350HD and some US sites mention also the presence of Ximeta's NDAS support, it seems.

So it would be interesting to hear from european owners of the IAMM as well as any american friend who alread owns the Eureka player.

Your input is welcome!
Konsti
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post #2 of 515
12/5/06 at 8:20am
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Latest firmware, as of 28th March 2007:

Version 1.1.152

English manual (~15 MBytes)

Manufacturer's specifications

Ximeta's NDAS driver (Iamm acts as their "NetDisk" product)
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post #3 of 515
12/5/06 at 10:35am
you can find the french version off the lx 350hd in this site: rivertech.fr
as you can see we can find this product in different marks...
visit this site: hdd-player.de/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=223 for all the firmwares and softwares...
i upgrade my mediaplayer to the 1.1.140 version but i have the same bugs ( when i press the remote buttons MOVIE, MUSIC, PHOTO) they link me to the root of the HDD instead of the directories, have you encountered this bug???
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post #4 of 515
12/6/06 at 1:10am
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Hello artcat,

I was under the impression that these menu selections were not meant to point to directories, but simply do a file filtering. That is, if you press e.g. MUSIC, and browse the drive, AVI or MPG etc. files will not be displayed.

I checked the manual and you seem to be right: on page 17, they suggest we do that. I will try this tonight; never really gave any shot because I am mostly using it to browse the network for videos.
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post #5 of 515
12/6/06 at 10:06am
Hello konsti,
another problem is the streaming function , when i browse the network sometimes the mediaplayer can see shared folders and the workstations and sometimes it can't see anything
any idea...
concerning the NDAS have you got any solution, cause it can be very useful for downloading the files to the hdd instead of travelling the mediaplayer to the nearest workstation and plugin via the usb wire...
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post #6 of 515
12/7/06 at 7:07am
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Hello again,

1. Indeed, proper network discovery can take more than a few seconds. What I do is I select again REFRESH on the menu, and I see both shared drives of mine (they are network drives, like Western Digital's "NetCenter"--I am expecting the Synology DS-106e soon, will write more). This is the same with WIRED or WIRELESS connection. It just takes its time

2. Regarding the NDAS feature: I have installed the driver that came with the CD-ROM, it is the same version as the one found on Ximeta's website (http://www.ximeta.com/) and I was able to "mount" the HDD of the Iamm as a USB device on My Computer. You need to enter the "device-key(s)" (specific for your hardware MAC addresses, found at the bottom of the device) and then the "write-key" in order to connect and transfer data over the network. Did you already try this?

Speed was not something I was ecstatic about, but I guess the 5-port 10/100 D-Link switch I am using is not of great quality... I must check this with a friend's switch (not hub, though) and perhaps a direct, cross-linked ethernet cable (between PC and IAMM) for 100% speed testing!

The drivers can be found here.

Let me know if you need further help.
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post #7 of 515
12/8/06 at 4:16am
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I am posting three images from the menus of the Iamm and the latest firmware. These are captures using an LCD Bravia 40 inch set, a tripod and my faithful DSC-717 camera, to be used in an article I am writing for a Greek magazine. The Iamm is connected via component at 720p.

...Just to give a feel to people that consider buying the Iamm!
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post #8 of 515
12/8/06 at 8:31am
congratulation for your pictures,
my mediaplayer is exactly the same as yours but from another korean reseller RIVERTECH, but i 'haven't got the NDAS feature, so i upgrade with the novatron firmware revision 1.1.140 and i installed the ndas software, but i need the device id and the write key...
the problem is that the trademark RIVERTECH has no technical support in France, so where i can find this keys...
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post #9 of 515
12/11/06 at 1:01am
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So you say you've upgraded your Rivertech to the IAMM firmware and it worked? Amazing. But how are you sure that the NDAS functionality is there? There is no mention on the menu screens. Can you still browse the network?

In order to check if you do have NDAS in your box, you need the device ID and write key. These are related to the MAC address of your device, and usually given by the manufacturer as a "sticker" at the bottom of the device. Mine were there, at least (one for WIRED and one for WIRELESS).

Where did you buy yours? PixMania? What is the exact model number? Do you have WiFi connectivity?

FIRMWARE UPDATE: The IAMM site posted the new firmware, version 1.1.142

It's a shame no-one else seems to bother posting his/her reviews and comments on the IAMM
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post #10 of 515
12/12/06 at 8:08am
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I should have known, but I think it's true: the NDAS feature on the Iamm is software-based. I was considering buying the RAPSODY N35 prior to discovering the Iamm, and the N35 features hardware NDAS support, making it even faster.

I thought that the network behaviour of the IAMM was slow, but now it explains it. Moving files TO the Iamm takes quite some time; 3000 KB/sec (maximum achieved) on a 100Mbit network... and I thought it was my ethernet switch!
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post #11 of 515
12/22/06 at 2:43pm
Hi,

I just got the same device under the brand Cibox. NDAS functionality is supported and I have already mounted the disk as a remote wireless device on two different machines. Same problems as for some of you :
- Takes some time to detect remote PC shared resources (but finds them in the end)
- Rather low information throughput over 54g (max 5MB/s) sufficient for streaming divx and midres Mpgs in both direction
- Haven't checked the wired connection so far, but from what I read above, looks like a better transmit rate is not to be expected.
I connected My Cibox to my 32" Sharp LCD using a DVI HDMI cable in auto DVI mode (current mode is 1080i), pictures are really brilliant and sharp ! a real pleasure to watch my DVD collection.
- One disappointment concerning still picture display : they rather look blurr with step effects when resolution is above 2Mpix. Did any one check this functionallity using other display modes (720p Yuv, 1366x768 VGA....)
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post #12 of 515
12/23/06 at 7:46am
Just consider for a moment if Novatron had decided to implement Upnp so that the IAMM could connect to Twonkymedia and do internet radio, collect video and audio files sorted by genre and other categories. Instead, they embarked on an NDAS project that really is not of any use at the speed that a software solution provides. Unfortunately, the manufacturer (Novatron) is not listening to customers at all, does not even reply to inquiries. That, of course, also means that a better scaler for JPEGs will probably never be introduced, leaving us with a rather pricy toy that plays videos well but really does not live up to expectations otherwise.

Happy Holidays,

Michael
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post #13 of 515
12/27/06 at 4:55am
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Hello clasami, phil42a, SEASON GREETINGS!

You are both right. Regarding the IAMM network capabilities, the NDAS feature is just OK for basic needs, and the uPNP could had come in handy. I am facing a problem with the Synology DS-106e file server (NAS) and the IAMM refuses to see the shared folders contents.

I noticed (via the wireless AP) that the IAMM obtains an IP address, but provides no network/workgroup device name! This renders it INVISIBLE on the network, and you can only PING it or connect via NDAS. So my investment on the (supposedly) best NAS server, is a waste. I can't see any files.

And indeed, NOVATRON just ignores my comments, for a third time I wrote an e-mail. I guess if they actually receive those e-mails or if they go to some spam mailbox ;-)

Did anyone else try to setup a file server, except their computer?

And yes, my IAMM is connected via component to my 40" Bravia LCD at 720p and the photos are BLURRY. Amazingly mediocre scaler (software, too).

Konsti
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post #14 of 515
12/27/06 at 12:53pm
For some reason, the IAMM has no problem to see my NSLU2 NAS with the attached USB drives (5 total). Works like a charm.

Michael
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post #15 of 515
12/30/06 at 4:19am
Season greetings to you all !

I upgraded my Cibox to the latest firmware avalaible on the novatron site (1.1.142). The Cibox logo on the welcome screen is now replaced by novatron (of course...Hope I will not experience problem with the unit, Cibox after sales might not appreciate... ).
Apart from this I can now read original DVD title from an attached USB DVD drive (good feature since I no longer need my previous DVD player which I now intend to sell).
Surprisingly the Wireless throughput seems to be a bit higher (not that much though) I can now expect to downlod a Complete DVD rip in about 3 hours with this firmware revision (the original CIBOX was 1.1.131).
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post #16 of 515
1/9/07 at 2:46am
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Guys, some info on using the IAMM with the Synology DS-106e server.

The IAMM can access open/public folders on my MacOS X and Windows as GUEST, i.e. no read restrictions.

However, the latest firmware for the Synology DS-106e that came with the server (namely, version 2.0.1-3.0368 dated 2006/06/29) does not allow the IAMM to access public folders, despite the fact that they are accessed as GUEST for username.

The problem is that the IAMM does not have a network name, and apparently, the Synology NAS doesn't like it (so far).

I sent an e-mail to the guys at Synology and they allowed me to participate in a beta firmware programme. The beta firmware (version 2.01-3.0424) still doesn't solve this problem...

Will post more as I go.
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post #17 of 515
1/12/07 at 7:47am
i need a quik reset mode for Iamm Ntd36HD..

what i must press if Ntd36HD rebooted for factory settings ?

he start to normal blue screen and then goes to black screen .. WTF !!

i work after this error with bootloader.bin / romfs.bin with TFTP.
but after restart the same :-(

regards
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post #18 of 515
1/13/07 at 5:55pm
if any need full entcrypted firmware 1.1.141 with ALL hardlinks ...look here
2 files (Clinux) dissassembled :-)

http://amd.co.at/anti/hd-player/ilam...P/full_system/

( was hard work)

regards
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post #19 of 515
1/14/07 at 5:41am
antivirus,

Sorry if this is a stupid question. what is the full entcrypted firmware and why would i need it.

K
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post #20 of 515
1/14/07 at 6:37am
look your orginal firmware file is romfs-novatron-iamm35-1-1-1-1-142.pkg

this is packed and crypted file..

a romfs.bin is a standart entcrypted file. and if you disassembled this, you can build IN all what you want

this ntd36hd run under Clinux standart...

if you know some ,you can patch the orginal software with telnet , samba , ftp and all what you want..



regards
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post #21 of 515
1/14/07 at 8:46am
now i built a 141 image with telnetd and look what is all in :-)

and fix this bug with mp3 playlists

regards
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post #22 of 515
1/14/07 at 9:35am
user with a ntd36hd !!!

if you have a playlist bug and your player boot, but after boot tv = black !!!

i have found the bug

look here.. http://www.hdd-player.de/phpBB2/view...hp?p=2369#2369 ( german)

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cubee:~# cat /proc/cpuinfo
Processor : ARM pt110 rev 0 (v4l)
BogoMIPS : 82.94
Hardware : EM86XX
Revision : 0000
Serial : 0000000000000000

.... i am in .....

after boot start init in /usr/curacao/curacao
i move to /usr/curacao/curacao.bak
out /usr/curacao/curacao one shell script and after telnetd the startscript
mkprefimg: writing userpref content successfull. wrote 2540 bytes
error E0/65536

now i clean playlists and jukebox list

new flash ....
now reboot


taraaaaaaaaaaa

ntd36hd now run normal :-) nice, i take the patched romfs on my server today...


soooooooooo

here my changelog for new (patched ) firmware

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- Removed root password
- Moved /usr/curacao/curacao to /usr/curacao/curacao.bak
- /usr/curacao/curacao is now a shell script which does the following things:
- Start telnetd (WARNING: NO PASSWORD)
- Set JUKEBOX.list and MYVIDEO.list to prevent lookups... not very nice,
but hey the box starts

Here the script:

cat /dev/null > /tmp/config/playlists/shortcut/JUKEBOX.list
cat /dev/null > /tmp/config/playlists/shortcut/MYVIDEO.list

/usr/sbin/telnetd &
/usr/curacao/curacao.bak&

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and ONLY upload with tFTP !!!

http://amd.co.at/anti/hd-player/ilam...CHED_FIRMWARE/

p.s
i have mailed every day to novatron kr, no mail incoming :-(


regards
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post #23 of 515
1/14/07 at 10:10am
Great work!
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post #24 of 515
1/14/07 at 10:28am
Hi,

i have a problem with my ntd36hd and was hoping some one could tell me,or tell me why i am getting the problem.

Basically the problem is that i have a 500gb HD in my ntd36hd and whenever i start the ntd36hd the HD is not picked up the HD icon is not active, but if i re-start the ntd36hd right away the HD is picked up and works fine.

I'm thinking that the the ntd36hd boots up and checks for the HD before the HD is ready. i'm probly wrong but it would be interesting to know if anyone else has had this problem or knows why it is occurring
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post #25 of 515
1/14/07 at 2:52pm
your harddrive is jumpered as master ? or as single drive ? checkit..


regards
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post #26 of 515
1/14/07 at 3:12pm
its set as master i've double and tripple checked i've also tried setting as single device... same problem with both settings
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post #27 of 515
1/14/07 at 11:52pm
i forget, in my firmware is now a build in telnetd


port 23
username = root
pass = none


regards
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post #28 of 515
1/15/07 at 12:25am
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Good day to all the NTD36-HD fans!

1. I have good news: the Synology DS-106e file server now works perfectly with the IAMM NTD36-HD since they released the new firmware for the DS-160e version 2.0.1-3.0426. Ethernet connections work as expected and shared folders with GUEST permissions now work! Just press REFRESH once more if you don't immediately see the file server (its HDD must be put out of sleep, so a list REFRESH on the IAMM is necessary some times).

I did contact Synology about this, and they told me that the new firmware has improved AFP connection. Indeed, the IAMM does not have a network device name (it's hidden in Network Neighborhood) and previously the Synology did not allow the IAMM to login properly... even as GUEST.

2. I am losing faith in Novatron. They never replied to any of my e-mails. What I liked about DViCO (the TViX products) is that they did reply, even in broken english. Keep pushing the Novatron guys, perhaps they will understand they need to improve their darn customer service.

3. Hey, antivirus good work with the firmware. Although I struggled a little with your english (LOL!) we thank you for your work.

(a) So you actually could OPEN the binary firmware? Could you detect the location of the bitmap fonts for the subtitles? Does that mean we can introduce GREEK (non-latin) bitmaps for the subtitles, too, like in the MTK-chip-based DVD players? (see MTZ firmware site to see what I mean)

(b) how sure can we be that your firmware is properly re-packed after your changes? I do not doubt your skills or your firmware, by any chance, just a security question. Because if by any change my IAMM dies, I am screwed There's no-one to fix it here, in Greece!

Well done.
Konsti
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post #29 of 515
1/15/07 at 12:39am
hi :-)

1: if you do my firmware in your box NEVER she stopped !!!
every time you come in with telned !!!!
i have bootloader.bin too :-)

my english issnt good, i am a german :-)
i detect the location of the bitmap fonts for the subtitles in

/usr/curacao/osd......

i can change if you want :-)


this all run in Eureka LX350 too :-)))

if you take my firmware in your iamm then telnetd and samba run and you can forget the fu**ing ndas :-)
samba run with ALL nas stations . ...

i work now on rotate pictures and better mp3 player...

if you go in /etc/services you can open ports for other axess ;-)

for tftp and upload my firmware press OK+SETUP+POWER and let tftp running :-)

you find all here

http://amd.co.at/anti/hd-player/ilam...OMFS_BIN_TFTP/

your computer ip MUST be to 192.168.1.16 and router MUST be 192.168.1.1 !!!!!!!!!

then wait some seconds and tftp start automatic my firmware ( first change name to romfs.bin) then wait 10 mins ,and if box reboot automatic, then all ok .
start normal and have pfun with telnetd ... box ip "username = root"
if you have the playlist bug too , go in telnet and type

cat /dev/null > /tmp/config/playlists/shortcut/JUKEBOX.list
and
cat /dev/null > /tmp/config/playlists/shortcut/MYVIDEO.list

next days firmware 142 patched with samba, gftp ,picture rotate , and better mp3 player coming :-)

i think i make a wiki site open for this all ... next days. on one of my server

i have new firmware patched for Iamm ntd36hd , abigs 570hd, Mvix 760 , TViX HD M-5000U and some more....

i sit here and build now a crosscompiler for Arm prozessors...

p.s

yesterday we sent a mail to novatron..

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Hi,

I recently purchased one of your players and detected that the player
uses software licensed under the GPL. According to it you have to obtain
with all sources of the GPL software used by you (unimportant if you
have modified it or not, if its GPL please give me the source). I can
provide you with more informations of the GPL if you wish so. If you are
new with this topic: http://gpl-violations.org/faq/vendor-faq.html may
be interisting for you.

Thanks in advance

xxxxxx



regards. from good old Koeln / germany
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post #30 of 515
1/15/07 at 1:42am
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Antivirus, hello again!

I am not a linux programmer, and I try to understand your hacking steps, so bear with me.

Thank you for the trouble you're getting into. But for the sake of not scaring people, and to use your firmware, let's do it step-by-step and document the changes, because writing the programming steps can be confusing. So:

1. you opened/decrypted the OFFICIAL firmware v1.1.142 with CLinux tools. Correct?

2. you modified the code in order to clear the playlist and jukebox list, correct? Please state what file you've patched/copied/edited/deleted and what line.

3. you added TelnetD service, by modifying the code and you start this service. What file was modified, line number? Also, you added hard-coded username and password, correct?

4. How did you upgrade your player? Via the standard upgrade process, i.e. on the SETUP menu of the player? You mention tFTP, you mean TelnetFTP process?

5. You say "Set JUKEBOX.list and MYVIDEO.list to prevent lookups... not very nice,
but hey the box starts". What do you mean "not very nice", you mean the code that Novatron did or the method YOU are using?

Thanks again, let's do a comprehensive plan to fix few bugs at a time.

Shame I don't know CLinux to help you ;-)
Konsti
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