REVIVED my Pioneer PRO-1150HD
Purchased from Tweeter in May 2008, just before Tweeter went out of business.
I've generally had ANT-A hooked up to OTA
But the tuner on this TV is so bad that I rarely
watched OTA on it, usually just movies via HDMI.
(an inexpensive newer TV on the same signal tunes in HD just fine)
Yes, I had TV-GUIDE and Clock auto-update enabled from day-1.
At one point, after the 2-year warranty had expired,
the unit would not power-on. I googled and probably found this forum.
I don't recall what the blink pattern was, but the solution was simply
to COLD POWER OFF when not in use. Ie. not just a
mechanical button press on the TV, but switch off at the power strip.
Previously I had been powering off on the panel power button, but not at
the power strip. Power strip power cycle immediately cleared the issue.
But when I came back from a trip this summer, things were worse.
It had been left with the power-strip enabled and the ANT-A
(which used to be OTA) was connected to a stretch of coax,
but no longer connected to the antenna. Front button power-on,
would normally momentarily shine RED, then solid BLUE and the
panel would come on. But now it would stay RED for a variable period
up to a few minutes, then turn BLUE, then display a box at the
bottom of the screen saying:
"/!\ PLASMA DISPLAY Starting up Please wait"
Then it would give up, click off the display, and go into
a pattern of 12 BLUE LED BLINKS. (okay, 1st cycle is
actually 11 blinks if you don't count the initial BLUE-on,
but clearly 12 after that)
If I turned off the power-strip during the blinks, then
on next power-on it would give me 8 BLUE LED BLINKS.
This could be cleared by powering off on the power button,
then at the power strip; power-on at power strip,
and then power-on via power button. Apparently those 12-BLUE-BLINKS
would prefer to be terminated by a panel power button press
than a surprise power strip cold-off...
But that just got me back to 12 BLUE LED BLINKS as above.
I took the unit off the wall so that service could come
see it. So now it is disconnected from everything, probably
most importantly power, but also ANT-A (OTA), HDMI, optical
audio out, and Ethernet.
Service shows up the next afternoon, we power it on
and it powers-up like normal! The tech yanks out the
power plug, and on next power on we get 8-BLUE-LED BLINKS
as above, clearing it as above to get stuck back at 12-LED BLINKs.
Note when the "Please Wait" is displayed, I can press the MAIN MENU
and get into the on-screen menus. The Reset in the Picture
menu has no effect on this problem -- just resets your customized
colors etc. And at this point the Tuner menu is greyed out.
The Tech tells me that no, he doesn't have a Pioneer G8 service remote.
He tries some sequence with my remote that he gets from Pioneer on the
phone, but it does nothing. He tells me that there are not parts available
for this TV, and if there were, it would be an $800 main-board replacement.
He tells me I should not necessarily hate Pioneer, all brands fail.
I pay him $89 to go away.
I leave the set powered-off at the power strip overnight
in hopes that I can get it to come up the next day like
it did when service arrived.
After trying this a few days, it actually works --
power was off probably about 24 hours since
previous power-on attempt.
In the MAIN MENU I can now get into the TUNER MENU
where immediately I set the CLOCK to MANUAL from AUTO.
I press and hold the DISPLAY button for 10 seconds
and my firmware version is displayed:
Then I try the magic sequence to get into the service menu
from a BLUE-led-on state, but it power's off the panel
to a RED-LED-ON standby state. But from that state
I CAN ENTER THE SERVICE MENU THIS WAY:
press (not hold) DISPLAY
count 4 seconds
And the service menu comes up.
The 1st screen has INFORMATION on the 1st row,
a black row and VERSION(1) on the 3rd row.
Using the DOWN KEY cycles through the INFORMATION screens:
HDMI SIGNAL INFO 1
HDMI SIGNAL INFO 2
VDEC SIGNAL INFO 1
VDEC SIGNAL INFO 2
DTV TUNING STATUS 1
DTV TUNING STATUS 2
DTV TUNING STATUS 3
DTV TV-GUIDE BER
When in the service menu,
use MUTE key to cycle through the INITIALIZE menus
EDID WRITE MODE
SIDE MASK LEVEL
On the FINAL SETUP/DATA RESET screen,
press RIGHT-ARROW and change the "NO" to "YES"
press and hold ENTER for about 5 seconds
"FINAL SETUP IS IN PROGRESS." is displayed
"FINAL SETUP IS COMPLETED.
PLEASE POWER OFF". is displayed
So I press the panel power button.
Then I kill power at the power strip.
But when I restore power and turn on the unit...
RED, then BLUE, then "Please wait", then back
No Joy. Seems we just proved that the MANUAL CLOCK
is not a fix, and perhaps neither is the service reset.
I'll let it sit around cold off to see if I can get in again.
If I can, I'll use the TV GUIDE reset procedure and/or
disable the TV GUIDE altogether. But as others have posted
that they have DEATH-BY-12-BLUE-BLINKS and never used
TV GUIDE, I'm not hopeful.
I paid $2,625 for this unit in 2008 and the service menu
says the panel has been on a total of 1106 hours.
So it cost me $2.37/hour to watch this TV, nearly
I'm considering a PANASONIC TC P50ST50 plasma which will
fit in the same space and cost $1100 from Amazon.
This gives full HD, and half the price. Maybe
its tuner will work better, and maybe it will reliably
*** UPDATE ***
GOOD NEWS!. The Pioneer PRO-1150HD powered up after being left unplugged for 2 days
after the reset. As described earlier in this thread, it prompted me to initialize the TV GUIDE.
I declined TV GUIDE setup and selected that it NOT ask me again.
(though if you press the TV GUIDE button on the remote, it will ask you again)
Have had no problems (in the couple of days) since. Have tested various power-off/standby sequences
and they all work fine.
As this unit has a weak tuner, I'll probably get an external tuner, say a
Channel Master CM 7001 Antenna and Cable Tuner,
plug that into my receiver and keep the Pioneer on a simple diet of HDMI
from the receiver -- no antanna, no ethernet.
I'm pretty happy with this turn of events. I had actually given up and ordered
the PANASONIC from Amazon (Prime), but called and cancelled before delivery.
Lets see if we can make this PIONEER last a little longer...
Edited by lenb417 - 10/9/12 at 11:58am