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post #1981 of 5303
4/4/07 at 11:14pm
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Originally Posted by pchin2 View Post

None so far that I know except the "We Were Soldiers" that offers DTS 6.1.

It's rumored that Lord of the Rings could be the first HD movie in 7.1. However, if you would like to try out your 7.1 system, you could get the DTS HD MA demo disc that two of its tracks come in 7.1 tracks.

Currently I'm using the Yamaha 1700....Dolby TrueHD is awesome!


Iam a bit baffled being that I have been thinking Iam ahead of the game and been waiting for the industry to catch up with us. Ive been waiting for a 7.1 soundtrack to come out for years. Now if I wanna run HD-DVD its as if my 7.1 set up will never have its day.

On your Yamaha does it state on the read out Dolby TrueHD? What other receivers would offer me Dolby TrueHD how many speakers does it optimize?


Also if they start to release 7.1 titles will I be able to decode them properly with my Sony3000es set up for 7.1? Or is a upgrade going to be needed?
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post #1982 of 5303
4/4/07 at 11:59pm
I upgraded the firmware on my A1 from 2.0 (no problems) to v2.1 via the network, it took 57 minutes and shut-down. I power it up and initialized (or reset) the A1 and reconfigured. Play 2 HD DVDs without any playback problems. The A1 is connected via HDMI to my HDTV Toshiba 65" RPCRT 65H85C at 1080i.

Some people have said the picture looked sharper, as myself I didn't do an A/B comparison BUT it does look a bit sharper or maybe it's just my imagination.

...Angelo
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post #1983 of 5303
4/5/07 at 4:40am
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Originally Posted by pchin2 View Post

None so far that I know except the "We Were Soldiers" that offers DTS 6.1.

I watched this last night and I selected the DTS6.1 soundtrack. My pre/pro (Sunfire TGP5) only showed a 5.1 input signal via. optical. Is this correct? Only 5.1 via. optical no 6.1.
Thanks!

Norm
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post #1984 of 5303
4/5/07 at 7:39am
Hello: I am wondering if anyone else has seen a message when loading a Std DVD into the HDXA2, that says, "Output Restricted, the ... will be played at/converted to 480P" or something like that. The message only flashes on the screen briefly.

Disks where this has been observed: Superbit version of Air Force One, and Casino.

I am guessing there will be many others.

Most important: If you push the DISPLAY button on the remote, the screen indicates 1080P output, NOT lower res 480P

Anyone know what's gone on here?

HDXA2 connnected via HDMI to Samsung 1080P DLP RP TV.
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post #1985 of 5303
4/5/07 at 8:03am
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Originally Posted by hamsey View Post

I watched this last night and I selected the DTS6.1 soundtrack. My pre/pro (Sunfire TGP5) only showed a 5.1 input signal via. optical. Is this correct? Only 5.1 via. optical no 6.1. Thanks! Norm

Pls refer to http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=816781

Posted by xradman:

"This has nothing to do with the disc. I've inquired about this issue and it appears that the first generation Toshiba transcodes everything to 1.5Mbps dts 5.1 on optical and PCM 5.1 on HDMI.

It does not pass through dts or DD from HD DVD without this transcoding step, and that's why you lose the rear channel surround. It does not do this with SD DVD, so hopefully at some point, this can be fixed through a FW upgrade."
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post #1986 of 5303
4/5/07 at 8:16am
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Originally Posted by wcs1 View Post

On your Yamaha does it state on the read out Dolby TrueHD? What other receivers would offer me Dolby TrueHD how many speakers does it optimize?

Also if they start to release 7.1 titles will I be able to decode them properly with my Sony3000es set up for 7.1? Or is a upgrade going to be needed?

When the THD is selected, on my Yamaha info displays as "MPCM" in 5.1 channels. There are some receivers that can decode THD in the development stage, thus not available yet in the market but soon will be.

Since the HD-A2 has a built-in THD decoder, you can still enjoy THD tru any HDMI receiver that can handle Multi-channel PCM.

I can't comment on your last ques as I'm not familiar with the Sony3000es.
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post #1987 of 5303
4/5/07 at 9:54am
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Originally Posted by pchin2 View Post

"It does not pass through dts or DD from HD DVD without this transcoding step, and that's why you lose the rear channel surround"

You lose the dts flags indicating that it is a 6.1 mix and automatically enable the dts ES 6.1 decode. Although not a discrete 6.1 rear channel, if you force on dts ES 6.1 decoding by a manual selection, you can get the, still there, matrixed rear channel info decoded. FilmMixer (who mixed WWS) has confirmed this.
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post #1988 of 5303
4/5/07 at 4:22pm
i have an A2 and am currently using the digital optical audio output. i have a ps3 connected to the same receiver via digital optical, and i swear the sound coming from my ps3 is much better and louder than the A2. what are the proper settings on the A2 for dynamic range compression? is it auto or off?
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post #1989 of 5303
4/5/07 at 4:34pm
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Originally Posted by nickelplayer6 View Post

i have an A2 and am currently using the digital optical audio output. i have a ps3 connected to the same receiver via digital optical, and i swear the sound coming from my ps3 is much better and louder than the A2. what are the proper settings on the A2 for dynamic range compression? is it auto or off?

"off"

....and in the audio part of the A2 setup.....set your SPDIF to "bitstream" and HDMI to "downmixed PCM"....
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post #1990 of 5303
4/5/07 at 9:30pm
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Originally Posted by nickelplayer6 View Post

i have an A2 and am currently using the digital optical audio output. i have a ps3 connected to the same receiver via digital optical, and i swear the sound coming from my ps3 is much better and louder than the A2. what are the proper settings on the A2 for dynamic range compression? is it auto or off?

same setup as you and it is the opposite for me, PS3 audio sounds flat compared to the DTS output of the A2.
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post #1991 of 5303
4/7/07 at 6:26am
New owner of a A2, picked one up at CC on the 4 movie deal. I also own the Pioneer HD1 so I am format neutral now. Thre were a couple movies I just had to have. Have not watched anything yet but look forward to it.
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post #1992 of 5303
4/7/07 at 4:44pm
After months of research and reading these HD-DVD blogs I finally jumped off the fence and purchased the A2. Got a great deal from Buydig and it arrived via 2 day Fedex this morning. Watched my 1st HD-DVD today (King Kong) and agree that the picture and sound even beats cable HD (watched King Kong on HBO HD yesterday to compare and the A2 looked better and the DTS sound surely beat broadcast Dolby 5.1) Anyway my point is that as an broadcast HDTV watcher for the last 3 years I was a little concerned the A2 wouldnt impress me (i.e no better than network HD)...I was wrong. I must say as great as the picture looks I was even more impressed by the dynamic sound coming off the downconverted DTS 1.5mbs audio. I had to read a few internet posts to understand the new audio codecs but after watching Kong I'm motivated to now upgrade my 1 year old non-HDMI AV receiver so I can hear the uncompressed PCM sound via HDMI. So anyone on the fence reading this post believe me if you have a fairly new HDTV (even better if 1080p) you will not be disappointed. And now that Amazon has dropped its price on the A2 today to $306 you can buy two units for the price of one PS3. Can't beat that!! I use the A2 with a Mitsubishi 65732 HDTV with HDMI Video but optical audio out to a Sony receiver.
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post #1993 of 5303
4/7/07 at 4:50pm
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Originally Posted by TheCrow1994 View Post

"off"

....and in the audio part of the A2 setup.....set your SPDIF to "bitstream" and HDMI to "downmixed PCM"....

I just got my A2 today and have my audio settings as you recommended except left the HDMI audio setting on auto. What does selecting "dowmixed pcm" do for your system when using optical cable to your receiver? I watched King Kong today and with the HDMI on auto my receiver read "DTS" on the display. I assumed I was getting the disc's DTS 1.5mbs signal ok...was I mistaken?
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post #1994 of 5303
4/7/07 at 6:49pm
Picked up my A2 at CC a couple of days ago. My projector (JVC RS-1) doesn't show up for a while, but I thought I would test out the audio ahead of time. I am connecting the optical out to my somewhat old JVC RX-6000V receiver. I have SPDIF set to Bitstream, HDMI set to downmixed PCM, with dynamic range compression and dialog enhancement off. The audio sounded tinny and lacked low frequencies. I cycled through the audio input choices on the JVC (analog - auto/pcm - dolby digital - DTS), and when I hit DTS, voila! Great sound, with all five speakers working as they should. King Kong sounded great. The problem came when I stopped the HD-DVD and restarted. Even though the JVC was in DTS mode, the tinny sound was back with the HD-DVD menu and looping soundtrack. I cycled the JVC once through the choices, returning to DTS, and the normal sound was restored. As soon as I selected Play to start the movie, the tinny sound returned and I now (for the second time) had to cycle through the audio input options, returning to DTS. That played fine for the rest of the movie, but manually intervening twice on each movie is ridiculous. Is there something basic I'm missing, or is my JVC receiver, despite its being "DTS capable", just incompatible with the HD-A2? Thanks in advance,

Kevin
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post #1995 of 5303
4/7/07 at 7:17pm
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Originally Posted by Kevin McCarthy View Post

Picked up my A2 at CC a couple of days ago. My projector (JVC RS-1) doesn't show up for a while, but I thought I would test out the audio ahead of time. I am connecting the optical out to my somewhat old JVC RX-6000V receiver. I have SPDIF set to Bitstream, HDMI set to downmixed PCM, with dynamic range compression and dialog enhancement off. The audio sounded tinny and lacked low frequencies. I cycled through the audio input choices on the JVC (analog - auto/pcm - dolby digital - DTS), and when I hit DTS, voila! Great sound, with all five speakers working as they should. King Kong sounded great. The problem came when I stopped the HD-DVD and restarted. Even though the JVC was in DTS mode, the tinny sound was back with the HD-DVD menu and looping soundtrack. I cycled the JVC once through the choices, returning to DTS, and the normal sound was restored. As soon as I selected Play to start the movie, the tinny sound returned and I now (for the second time) had to cycle through the audio input options, returning to DTS. That played fine for the rest of the movie, but manually intervening twice on each movie is ridiculous. Is there something basic I'm missing, or is my JVC receiver, despite its being "DTS capable", just incompatible with the HD-A2? Thanks in advance,

Kevin

Just use pause instead of stop and it should alleviate the cycling problem after you start the movie . Seriously though, I don't have this issue with my 3805 Denon, so it could be your receiver.
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post #1996 of 5303
4/7/07 at 8:59pm
I have the A2 and installed both update discs from Toshiba and it seems that when I use HDMI the picture is darker then when viewing it through component.I have a panasonic AE700 projector and running HDMI straight from the projector to the A2. Does anyone else have this problem?

Vid53
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post #1997 of 5303
4/7/07 at 9:30pm
Kevin,

I have an old JVC RX-888 receiver and don't have a problem at all with sound from the A2.
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post #1998 of 5303
4/7/07 at 9:56pm
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Originally Posted by vid53 View Post

I have the A2 and installed both update discs from Toshiba and it seems that when I use HDMI the picture is darker then when viewing it through component.I have a panasonic AE700 projector and running HDMI straight from the projector to the A2. Does anyone else have this problem?

Vid53

I find that HDMI always gives a darker picture than component, I find it cleaner and has better edges, overall to my eyes it is better, but it is subjective. If you find it darker than adjust your panel for optimal settings when using HDMI. I have done it and prefer HDMI.
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post #1999 of 5303
4/7/07 at 10:11pm
Just tried to play The good shepherd and Children of men,message on screen says can't play disc.This is the first time this has happened,just these two discs,every other disc plays fine.-MOMMACUX
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post #2000 of 5303
4/8/07 at 1:31am
My machine takes forever to boot up and open the tray or play a movie. Is this normal?
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post #2001 of 5303
4/8/07 at 3:08am
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Originally Posted by Maximus330I View Post

My machine takes forever to boot up and open the tray or play a movie. Is this normal?

Yep, about 45 seconds, but it's worth the wait I think.
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post #2002 of 5303
4/8/07 at 11:06am
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Originally Posted by TheCrow1994 View Post

"off"

....and in the audio part of the A2 setup.....set your SPDIF to "bitstream" and HDMI to "downmixed PCM"....

So glad I read this, I've been perplexed about the audio since bringing home this unit yesterday. Everything was DTS to my Sony receiver until I switched to the above settings. Now I'm actually seeing my Dolby D 5.1 in the receiver's display panel.

Another thing curious. I'm going HDMI into my Sony E50A10 display. Out of the Sony into the receiver with a digital optical. When viewing HD TV channels broadcasting in 5.1 I get 5.1 Dolby to the receiver. Not so using the same audio input for the player. So I had to run a separate digital optical from the player to the receiver. Why is this happening? You'd think I'd get the 5.1 just like I get it when watching HD TV. I'm not exactly ready to take the 500+ plunge for a receiver that has an HDMI I/O, but the audio is sounding a lot better now after changing to the above settings.

Anyhow, the upconversion of SD discs is way better than with my original Sammy upconverter, and the HD discs look awsome. The native res of my Sony display is 720P, but it's taking the 1080i just fine, and looks better, I think.
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post #2003 of 5303
4/8/07 at 2:33pm
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Originally Posted by mommacux View Post

Just tried to play The good sheperd and Children of men,message on screen says can't play disc.This is the first time this has happened,just these two discs,every other disc plays fine.-MOMMACUX

mine did the same thing with good shepard.i was ticked.
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post #2004 of 5303
4/8/07 at 5:52pm
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Originally Posted by Kevin McCarthy View Post

Picked up my A2 at CC a couple of days ago. My projector (JVC RS-1) doesn't show up for a while, but I thought I would test out the audio ahead of time. I am connecting the optical out to my somewhat old JVC RX-6000V receiver. I have SPDIF set to Bitstream, HDMI set to downmixed PCM, with dynamic range compression and dialog enhancement off. The audio sounded tinny and lacked low frequencies. I cycled through the audio input choices on the JVC (analog - auto/pcm - dolby digital - DTS), and when I hit DTS, voila! Great sound, with all five speakers working as they should. King Kong sounded great. The problem came when I stopped the HD-DVD and restarted. Even though the JVC was in DTS mode, the tinny sound was back with the HD-DVD menu and looping soundtrack. I cycled the JVC once through the choices, returning to DTS, and the normal sound was restored. As soon as I selected Play to start the movie, the tinny sound returned and I now (for the second time) had to cycle through the audio input options, returning to DTS. That played fine for the rest of the movie, but manually intervening twice on each movie is ridiculous. Is there something basic I'm missing, or is my JVC receiver, despite its being "DTS capable", just incompatible with the HD-A2? Thanks in advance,

Kevin

Do you by chance have an analog audio connection as well as the optical between your receiver and the A2? If so, your receiver is probably defaulting to the analog audio. There is usually a setting on the receiver to force the choice of the digital connection.
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post #2005 of 5303
4/8/07 at 9:17pm
I tried "The Departed" as my first HD-DVD. I was curious about the audio options. When I brought up the setup menu to see the audio choices, I get the pop up display along the bottom of the screen, but all it seems to indicate is to hit the audio button on the remote. However there doesn't seem to be anything to indicate what the audio option is when going through all of them by hitting the audio button. I mean, it's obvious when it's French or another foreign language, but there were a couple English speaking options. I'm guessing one is normal and the other is a commentary, but it might be 2.0 vs 5.1 or something like that. The display button doesn't seem to indicate anything either.

Is there another way to go through the audio options with more info like a standard dvd?
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post #2006 of 5303
4/9/07 at 3:51am
IndianaGeorge: No, there was no analog connection. The front panel of the receiver clearly indicated that DTS was selected, but each time that sound transitions on the HD-DVD, the tinny effect returns. On Chronicles of Riddick, it occured once for "A message from the director", again during the looping audio for the menu, and again when I pressed play. By the way, SD DVDs auto-select Dolby Digital, and play fine. I have written to both JVC and Toshiba, but if this can't be resolved, I will have to replace my receiver. Annoying. Thanks for helping.

Kevin
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post #2007 of 5303
4/9/07 at 7:46am
I can not connect to the internet at all. I've tried everything and it always give me the "can not find server" error message. Anybody know what it could be.
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post #2008 of 5303
4/9/07 at 10:15am
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Originally Posted by kmlm13 View Post

I can not connect to the internet at all. I've tried everything and it always give me the "can not find server" error message. Anybody know what it could be.

First make sure your internet connection is correct, and that you have an ip address and dns server address. Then make sure you don't have a disc in the player when you try it.
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post #2009 of 5303
4/9/07 at 1:14pm
Well my A1 works and I didn't have to set anything on it regarding the dns and ip address.
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post #2010 of 5303
4/9/07 at 3:24pm
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Originally Posted by kmlm13 View Post

Well my A1 works and I didn't have to set anything on it regarding the dns and ip address.

I don't know about the A1; maybe it defaulted to DHCP automatically. On my A2, I had to go in and set it to DHCP and hit confirm before it would do the DHCP request. You should at least go into Ethernet->DHCP and verify the IP and DNS adresses.
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