What movie would push you to buy a BD player? - Page 5

Planet Earth did it for me and I decided on HD DVD. Band of Brothers would be awesome too!

This post was like a breath of fresh air amidst all the........in this thread. Thanks!

Yea, because HD DVD is flawless. Look, both formats have there pros and cons but, to call BD broken is just fanboy FUD. I know BD is still ironing out certain features but I have not experienced one skip or pause like I do occassionaly with HD DVD. All I'm saying is that both formats still have bugs to work out.

Shark, I agree 100%, well said.

Few other announced titles that helped push me to become format neutral:
Pirates 1 and 2
Cars
Closer
The Rock
Hellboy
The Patriot
and my favorite sub movie...Crimson Tide

I continue to stand behind the answer of none. There is no reason on earth anyone should be forced into buying 2 separate players. If the studios still want to continue this exclusivity nonsense than I will purchase a BD player when the price drops to under $100.

To a certain extent. But I, for one, cannot with a good conscious support someone who plays so dirty the way the BDA does. At this point, seeing the bad guys lose is more important to me than the content. Call me an extremist.

talk about not applying. This is the wrong forum - it belongs in HD general

This place used to be about getting content in the best form possible. That changed to a large degree (for many people) at some point. With how many things are out from both sides I have a hard time imaging that any movie/video lover wouldn't see exclusive things on both sides that they want. I understand people just getting one for now for financial reasons though.

--Darin

That movie is available on HD DVD as well you know.

i think you've missed the point on all the replies completely.

blu ray is way too expensive a format not matter what movies you throw at it.

let the stand alone "quality" players get to about 3-500 and you'll see lots of folks jumping in.

the single title qualification of the op's question is a bit limiting.

No, actually, he didn't.


If you think that everyone in this thread who said that there is nothing that would ever make them buy a Blu-ray player was because it is too expensive, this only proves that you are the one who has missed the point on many of the replies.

Thought so.....

Everyone has there own opinion so to each there own but, I was not forced into buying a BD player. Yes, I could have waited for the studios to go neutral but, tax time came and I had the extra money and thought why not.

...yeah, that.

Question: What MOVIE would push you (not force you, not hijack you, not torture you, PUSH you) to buy a BD player?

Answer: [pick one]

very simple, when you break it down. Now, yeah, Prestige is out on HD-DVD in the UK, yet the answer to the question is what film pushed me to BD... I, for one, found it far easier to just get the dual format thing over and done with rather than invest in importing titles from Europe for films I'd like.

I made it clear in other, more verbose threads that I spent most of the early part of this year bemoaning the fact that even if I -wanted- to go BD, there wasn't a hell of a draw for me. Take it as a nice bit of irony that the one film that finally made me say "k, I'm going to want both" is one that I could have perhaps waited to get via import. However, Prestige was the first among many, including such exclusives as Casino Royale, the forthcoming (PLEASE HURRY UP!) release of Lawrence, etc. I've also explained ad naseum that a big push for me to get the BD10 over an upgrade of my (flaky but lovable) A1 to an XA2 was the realization that a) playing my first disc on a G2 unit resulted in a fatal Hex error, and b) why the hell wouldn't I take that money and spend it on a player that would serve as a DVD/BD/DVD-A player.

Is BD more expensive? Sure. Are some things annoying about the way the format has been dealt with? You betcha. But this pathetic dreamland that things somehow there are "sides" to be drawn here, teams to join, is just really, really childish in my opinion. Yeah, there are real differences to be drawn, but that doesn't mean you somehow define yourself BASED ON YOUR PURCHASES. That's even more arbitrary than supporting a home team because you grew up in city X.

I just really, really think that with threads like this it exposes that many of you simply aren't in this for the movies, but are in this for, I dunno, bragging rights? Tech fetishisation? I don't mean to be harsh and castigate some with clearly well thought out positions, but I bet you even if you ask Amir and Kevin for a list of favourite films of all time they might mention a few that happen, for reasons we're all aware of, to be releases currently in the BD camp. Would that -make- someone buy a player? Who the hell is being made to do ANYTHING with this hobby? It might, however, -push- one to grab a player for those titles that mean something to them.

We've had "buy HD-DVD" days and "buy BD" days to try and drum up interest, we've had tier threads about what to show to wow your friends and neighbors, we've had threads like this one that takes a fairly neutral slant only to emit ridiculous fanboyisms after a short time... What have we not had?

WATCH A DAMN MOVIE DAY.

Somebody should create a thread - something along the lines of international watch something in your collection day. Watch a new flick, a movie you've already seen, whatever. Take a break for a couple hours from AVS, and ENJOY your hometheatre. Don't look for black crush, or banding, or whatever. Don't whip out your SPL or RTA, don't worry about lack of DTS MA, just sit back, and watch. BD, HD, who cares, just sit back, enjoy, and remember for a moment why the hell you are obsessing about having quality at home in the first place, so that -quality- films can be seen in their best light. Watch the film all the way through, hell, even sit through the credits for fun. Don't obsess over particular "awesome" scenes, don't FF to the part you want to test, watch and enjoy at least one movie today, in either format.

After you have hopefully enoyed this film, imagine a magical world where we all have enough money to buy whatever the hell we want, to own whatever format we desire, and, knowing the list of thusfar exlusive studios on the BD side, think of ONE film that you'd like to have that same experience with. If you're a BD guy/gal that doesn't have one of those "other" players, you can play along as well.

Simply put, for me it was as insane to envision a world where I didn't have access to Dark Side of the Moon or Blonde on Blonde or Pet Sounds or the Beatles' LOVE in 5.1 Hi Rez because I was trying to remain faithful to an arbitrary format division brought about by companies that couldn't get together to create a unified format.

Until I can snap my fingers and bring multinational, multi-billion dollar companies to their feet and unify formats that are inevitably only going to last for a very short period of time, I'm going to want films from both "sides" in my collection. Why?

BECAUSE I LOVE MOVIES. Not the tools, not the ridiculous trinkets we buy to make the things play, not the hours we spend setting black levels, tweaking convergence, programming remotes, haggling over cable selection, these are all entertaining distractions from the main feature. To paraphrase from James Carville of all people, "It's the movie, stupid!"

So, back to the topic, think of one of the tens of thousands of films released by the studios since the dawn of the twentieth century that might make you desire to own a title that's likely to be released in a format you don't already have? Go on, give it a try...

If you don't have the imagination for this exercise, maybe you should spend a bit more time with escapist fare that can transport you for 90 minutes or more at a time into another place, time, setting, etc. You know, A MOVIE.

oooookayy....


" No single movie would cause me to get a BD player."

" No movie. A $500 player that worked would do it (and not a PS3)

" Nothing "

"no there is not a single movie that would make me buy a BD player"

"This is a weird question to answer!!! You do not want people to boicot your Post but still the answer is very simple ....Who is going to buy a $1000 player just to see a single Movie..."
" Nothing.
If I won't pay $500 for HD player then I'm not paying $1000 for a BR player."

"No movie or collection of movies would get me to buy BD. Don't want the extra DRM, don't like the lack of combo discs."

" I don't see that product quality and collection of released & upcoming movies making me consider Blu-Ray in the slightest."

"No movie.
A "movie" does not make up my mind for me!"

"But it would have to be atleast 10 must have movies"

"Right now no one movie is going to cause me to buy a whole other platform."

" If there is going to be a Blu-Ray drive for $300 or less"


these quotes are from page one (sorry for not including the names of posters, too many to track but if there's an easy way without manually typing it let me know)


what part of these replies are you unclear on?


orginal question: (cut and pasted from post #1)

is there a movie that may actually push get you to but a BD player?



ie: fork over 899-1500 bucks and buy one movie to watch. not a library, not to side for which format will win, just one movie.

for those actually reading the question, the answer is clear

none.

WHAT? I swear I read these forums and think that people must be drunk or brain damaged. Is english your first language?

I'm no scientist or grammarian, but I'm not sure that was the exact phraseology of the original post... Still, I hope intransigence makes you happy, and it's clear from your post above that there's not a single film in the history of Sony, Fox, Disney, etc., and the thousands of catalogue titles that those studios control, that makes you even a teeny weeny bit to have that film in High Def.

Huh, how 'bout that.

I guess you're either with us, or against us, eh?

well let's all have a good laugh then, that line was copied and pasted from post #1

yes, let's. I recommend wearing your irony hat when "cutting and pasting" next time, and re-read what's cited above in comparison to the OP.

Good night, all.

and just to make it clear the sentences in quotes were also copied and pasted from the replies on page one of this thread. they are not my ramblings


as far as "thousands" of titles that are supposed to entice me to buy a br player, i'm waiting for the good ones to come out and for player prices to drop.

all of which has nothing to do with the op's question about one movie pushing me to buy an expensive player (that currently doesn't support bd-j).

i admit that when making my post i quickly scanned the entire page one of the thread to assemble my response, cutting and pasting like a madman.

i didn't even catch the nonsensical structure of the question from post #1. thanks for catching that.


here is the complete sentence from post #1 from Primus67

"now, putting aside which is the better format, who's winning the war, etc., is there a movie that may actually push get you to but a BD player? and what is it?"

have a good night.

Added the Sony PS3 (60 mg) when CASINO ROYALE came out - meaning I' m now running both HD formats

I bought my PS3 just for "Pirates". Being format neutral is its own reward, though. No longer must I wander the retail aisles wondering what it must be like to see some films in HD, but not others.

If HD DVD loses big time and studio's stop releasing HD DVD's then it's time for me to consider blu ray.
That is if the spec and the players are finished by then...

The few 'exclusives' I would like to buy are the Disney's mostly.

Movies like Cars, Nemo, Monsters Inc are almost HD like when upscaled. The gain in picture quality going HD is not worth the BR premium to me.
The rest I can get discounted fairly short after the release.

"Would" push my me to buy a BD player?

I just plunked down $1000 for a Sony BDP-S1 for our "Casino Royale & Martini" party tomorrow nite...

Not sure if I'll keep it tho.

Tsk tsk. I really love how you only posted quotes that support your argument, but left out all the replies that support the point that I (and SharkShark) was making, which is basically that many people seem to be much more interested in having their chosen format (HD-DVD) "win". As stated by sharkshark:


I would think that comments like these (which you conveniently ignored) would easily lead to that conclusion, and he certainly did NOT miss the point of all the replies despite your allegation to the contrary:

Humm in light of Sharkshark's comments I will revise my answer somewhat. I would buy into the BD format the day that a movie I really really like is released on Blu-ray and not on SD-DVD.

Until that point comes I am happy with the movie selection that HD-DVD provides and the image quality of upscaled SD-DVD on my system. Quite frankly I would rather spend the $600 to $1000 that it would cost me right now to get a BD player on other system upgrades. A new HDMI receiver...perhaps, new subwoofer...ooo, front row of theater seats...yummy, XBOX360...woot, Video scaler...oh yeah, movie posters and frames...rocking, well you get the point.

I have said this many times and I will say it again. Low entry cost is what enabled me to get into HD-DVD in the first place and getting another HD player is very very low on the priority list.

Laters,
Jeff

^Exactly.

I usually tend to agree more with the folks who are format nutural. In this case I can't see any one title that would get me to buy a BD player. The things that will bring me to be format natural are....

1. Combo player. I got into the HD disc thing when I bought an A1. It had an excellent price, great picture, great upscaling, and great DACs. All of this for around $400. I don't have an HDMI receiver so the upgrade was quite reasonable. When there is a combo player that has analog outs, interactive features finalized, and onboard audio decoding of all audio formats, I will go nutural

2. A decent catalog. Come on folks. Until the great exclusive titles are out, what is the real advantage of studio exclusives?

I am not anti-BD, in fact I hope that all of those titles that are promised come through. That way there will be plenty of titles out when I go nutural.

I can get everything I want to see very, very quickly and cheaply on DVD. I'd rather see them in HD DVD or BD, but they cost too much and some are hard to find. When BD players are in the $249 range and most titles are about $20.00 I'll rethink my position. I own 27 HD DVDs and I'll probably not rewatch more than 3 or 4 of them. DVD is what is holding the HD formats back and will continue to do so for quite a few years. It's available, cheap and looks good on the size of screen most people have. Sorry, but there is "no title" that will encourage me to purchase a BD player because I can find it easier and cheaper (way cheaper if I rent) on DVD. Until the HD formats are more accessible and cheaper DVD is going to rule.

Cheers,

Grant

Right, and I'm certainly not suggesting that's a ridiculous suggestion, but I think the -spirit- of the discussion is (as I barfed out above) what title from a BD exclusive studio would make you want/crave/have a mild interest in seeing in BD.


Being "fine" with SD is of course an excellent option, perhaps even the rational one. The smart play =by far= is to avoid HD and BD all together. There are thousands and thousands of SD titles that are pretty damn good, and unless you have a decent screen of decent size you're not going to see much of an improvement. Despite what some have in the past claimed, I'm not entirely convinced that the ability to change the colour of a car in Fast and the Furious warrants upgrading to an XA2 to watch on your 14", composite-to-coax adapted Television. But I'm crazy that way...

So, =given= that HD is amazing and gravy to any setup,=given= that if you're going to jump into only one and not the other HD-DVD is cheaper, =given= that the format doesn't make the films better or worse, that there's nothing fundamentally wrong with either format, that PQ is master/transfer/codec dependent, not format dependent, =given= all this...

What...movie... would... you... to....=want=.... to....buy....on....BluRay (or HD-DVD, if you have only the "other" player)...?

Yeah, I'm hijacking this thread for clarity. Sue me.

ps. Rob, I'm hiring you for future posts.
pps. BRING US LoA already!