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Onkyo 504, Yamaha 5940, Marantz 4600, Panasonic X57, Pioneer 816  

post #1 of 17
Thread Starter 
Looking for best sound, futureproofness, and functionality for the price.

75% Home Theater usage

25% Music Usage (10% of this loud music, rock and rap)

Speakers: Fluance AV-F3 Mains, AV-BP2 surrounds, AV-SC center channel. Subwoofer: Bic Acousteh 100 (all to be purchased).

TV (if it means anything): Panasonic 50" Plasma with Oppo DV 971 dvd player

The contenders:
Onkyo 504 ($200 delivered): http://www.amazon.com/Onkyo-TX-SR504...&s=electronics

Yamaha 5940 ($220 delivered) http://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-HTR-594...&s=electronics

Marantz 4600 ($300 delivered): http://www.amazon.com/Marantz-SR4600...712411-5174819

Panasonic X57 ($300 delivered): http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-SA-X...&s=electronics

Pioneer 816 ($270 delivered): http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-VSX-81...&s=electronics

PLEASE RESPOND IF YOU KNOW ANY of these, your advice is appreciated. I am hoping to get a lot of responses by wednesday so i can order wednesday afternoon!

Out of these, I have only heard the X57 and Onkyo. I really liked the X57, and felt the Panny was super clear. But i couldn't compare them with the same speakers the Onkyos were on, and the Panasonic is towards the higher end of my price range ($300).
post #2 of 17
All those are good receivers in the budget class. You hit it with the 57 though I don't think you'll find a receiver with more clarity. It lacks some of the features/settings of the other analog competitors but if SQ is what matters most to you then I don't think you'll find anything that will top it in the price range. Also if the HDMI feature isn't inportant to you also check out the Panasonic XR-55. Same receiver without HDMI and will save you some $$.

I'm currently running the Pioneer 816 and happy with it. I replaced it from a onkyo HTIB receiver I had, needed more connection options. Personally I liked the sound of the Onkyo beter but that's subjective.

IMO the ONKYO 504 is the best bang for the buck as far as features/performance combination and you can get it at shoponkyo.com delievered for $170. Excellent deal.
post #3 of 17
This a better match for the fluance speakers since they tend to be on the bright side and the panny will not match well with them but the onkyo is a much warmer sounding avr and it will blend well with the fluance and with this avr you get more power and more features....

http://www.ecost.com/ecost/ecce/shop...no~2050669.asp
post #4 of 17
Thread Starter 
Jakeman, Louwiz, thanks for the replies. I'm starting to think Jakeman works for Onkyo and Louwiz for Fluance. Just kidding.

Louwiz: thanks for clarifying the Fluance speakers. If they sound bright, I would DEFINITELY not want the panasonic (or yamaha for that matter) as i felt it to be a bit bright, but just a tad. it was really amazingly clear more than anything. I like Harmon Kardon sound, which i felt was a bit warmer. I've heard Onkyo is warmer and that should balance out the brightness of the speakers.

Louwiz: thats an excellent price for the 603, unfortunately it is out of stock there.

Jakeman: can you share your experience with the pioneer 816 please? it has really good reviews.
post #5 of 17
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jakeman02
IMO the ONKYO 504 is the best bang for the buck as far as features/performance combination and you can get it at shoponkyo.com delievered for $170. Excellent deal.
where did you see that deal? it is showing as 179 pre shipping.
post #6 of 17
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Originally Posted by violator_1977
Jakeman: can you share your experience with the pioneer 816 please? it has really good reviews.
I've had it for about 2 weeks now, I'm happy with it. Good Sound and features not found in the price range like On Screen Menu, EQ for each speaker and a nice programmable remote although it's not a learning remote the codes are are already programmed so if your code isn't in there I guess your SOL :). But all mine were.

Sound quality is good. It doesn't seem quite as open of a sound and lacks some detail in the upper frequencies to my ears compaired to the Onkyo it replaced. But since you stated you didn't like bright that would probably would appeal to you, purely preference.

The auto setup went well without a hitch and for the most part was accurate, I was suprised by that, I only had to go in and change a few speaker distance settings slightly and it set my fronts to large which are small bookshelves, no biggie.

It has 2 customizable EQ settings (coustom 1 and coustom 2) you can setup yourself and store as well as the stored Auto Setup EQ and with the touch of a button you can switch between them which is nice.
post #7 of 17
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Originally Posted by violator_1977
where did you see that deal? it is showing as 179 pre shipping.
Price includes shipping and waranty and if you sign up with the website before purchase you get $10 off which makes the final cost $169.

http://www.shoponkyo.com/detail.cfm?...il=1&ext_war=1

or the black version here
http://www.shoponkyo.com/detail.cfm?...il=1&ext_war=1
post #8 of 17
I was struggling with a very similar choice. In my case it was between the 57 and onkyo 604. I know the 604 widen's the price gap a bit, but price difference aside I was wondering if those who have heard the two could clarify the warm vs bright difference for a total newbie?

Admittedly I haven't gotten a chance to hear them, but from what I understand even that wouldn't necessarily answer things since the test speakers might be different than my eventual set up.

I've heard rave reviews about the 57's SQ but am still drawn to the onk's features. I guess what I"m also wondering is if there's enough difference in SQ to out weigh the features?
post #9 of 17
Thread Starter 
As in my original post, so what would be best for movies in particular? thanks
post #10 of 17
That's a question only you can answer. All are quality receivers and all, besides the Mirantz are sold at BB and CC if you want to go check them out. I personally like onkyos sound as stated above and for the $170 delivered price I would go that way and put the savings into other components. If you want OSD, Auto Setup, EQ and a better remote then go with the 816 and as stated above the Panny 55 or 57 has great sound quality while lacking some features of the others and some consider it to be bright. The mirantz is said to be the opposite, a warm sounding receiver, great for music. I would exclude the Yammy from the amazon link above. It's a nice receiver but it's sold from Etronics which IS NOT a Yammy authorized dealer, the waranty is null if you purchased from an unauthorized dealer.
post #11 of 17
Thread Starter 
Thanks,

I have decided to purchase the Onkyo 504. It has excellent reviews. I've read many different sources reviews and have yet to find one bad one. The price can't be beat either. Short of going for an HDMI connection receiver, and spending at least 100 more, I don't think there is much benefit of going with anything else.
post #12 of 17
Are these units OK to purchase reconditioned/refurbished? The price difference is really large between those and new units and I'm wondering what differences might exist, if any.

Thanks!
post #13 of 17
I wouldn't have a problem with a refub, depending on who the seller was and you could make sure it was a factory refurb with a waranty. shoponkyo has some great deals going right now with 10% off Christmas Sale and their prices include waranty and shipping plus 1st time buyers get $10 off after signing up with the website.
post #14 of 17
Thanks... is there a special link to the 10% Xmas sale?

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Originally Posted by Jakeman02
I wouldn't have a problem with a refub, depending on who the seller was and you could make sure it was a factory refurb with a waranty. shoponkyo has some great deals going right now with 10% off Christmas Sale and their prices include waranty and shipping plus 1st time buyers get $10 off after signing up with the website.
post #15 of 17
no special link needed, you just have to sign up with the website first as it's for members only.
post #16 of 17
Thread Starter 
Hehe, I got it for $152 shipped!

Guys, sign up for the list for free, they'll take 10 bucks off as Jakeman is saying, and, purchase now, and they are taking off an additional 10% for the holidays! sorry just read jakemans post...

oh and if you write a review you get another 10 points/bucks off. I did.
post #17 of 17
Thread Starter 
What do you guys think of my Fluance speaker package I am thinking of getting?

Also, any advice on how to run speaker wire under carpet is appreciated.
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