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post #151 of 1440
My issue with burn-in isn't gaming, but unstretched 4:3 content with the black or gray bars. I really hate stretching the image, even using the "graduated" stretch that leaves the center portion of the image mostly unstretched. Since I'll be pillarboxing any SD content, my fear lies in the side bars aging at a different pace, even with gray bars.
post #152 of 1440
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Originally Posted by Soybean View Post

My issue with burn-in isn't gaming, but unstretched 4:3 content with the black or gray bars. I really hate stretching the image, even using the "graduated" stretch that leaves the center portion of the image mostly unstretched. Since I'll be pillarboxing any SD content, my fear lies in the side bars aging at a different pace, even with gray bars.

I wouldn't worry too much about it. Maybe stretch your image for the first 100-200 hours & then go the the grey bars. I've watched quite a bit of 2.35:1 content on my plasma in the first 200 hours & (call it 80 hours out of 200). They have black bars & I haven't seen any signs of burn in or image retention. Just mix it up well during the critical period & you should be ok there after.

Of course, if you're going to watch 90% pillared materail, then you might have a issue.
post #153 of 1440
Is the glare on a plasma screen worse (or different) than the glare on a flat screen CRT? Trying to evaluate whether the "glare factor" in the plasma-lcd debate would be particularly meaningful in our case (where either a plasma or lcd set would be our first flat panel tv).

Apologies if this is answered elsewhere but I haven't found mention of it.

Thanks
post #154 of 1440
I recently bought a Vizio lcd tv, and I'm not happy with the black levels and viewing angles. I'm really leaning back toward plasma (I was all for it years ago, then got scared of burn-in) but my main concern is this: I use Tivo. A lot. I use the guide every time I switch channels. I don't mind stretching the picture during break-in, but is that guide going to become a permanent stain on a plasma screen? Any Tivo users care to chime in?
post #155 of 1440
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Originally Posted by freewill View Post

Is the glare on a plasma screen worse (or different) than the glare on a flat screen CRT? Trying to evaluate whether the "glare factor" in the plasma-lcd debate would be particularly meaningful in our case (where either a plasma or lcd set would be our first flat panel tv).

Apologies if this is answered elsewhere but I haven't found mention of it.

Thanks

In general, plasma owners state that there is less glare on the plasma than there was on the CRT. I've also found this to be the case, as I replaced a CRT with a plasma in the same location. The one caveat being, you may now have a larger screen, that might pick up light sources the smaller screen did not.
post #156 of 1440
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Originally Posted by elpanda View Post

I recently bought a Vizio lcd tv, and I'm not happy with the black levels and viewing angles. I'm really leaning back toward plasma (I was all for it years ago, then got scared of burn-in) but my main concern is this: I use Tivo. A lot. I use the guide every time I switch channels. I don't mind stretching the picture during break-in, but is that guide going to become a permanent stain on a plasma screen? Any Tivo users care to chime in?

As long as you follow your guide with changing content (ie a tv show), you'll be ok. If you keep a 1:3 ratio or better (1 minute of guide followed by 3 minutes of tv), then you'll never see any issue.
post #157 of 1440
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Originally Posted by elpanda View Post

I recently bought a Vizio lcd tv, and I'm not happy with the black levels and viewing angles. I'm really leaning back toward plasma (I was all for it years ago, then got scared of burn-in) but my main concern is this: I use Tivo. A lot. I use the guide every time I switch channels. I don't mind stretching the picture during break-in, but is that guide going to become a permanent stain on a plasma screen? Any Tivo users care to chime in?


I use the guide & saved playback quite often, play xbox360 a lot and have not had any problems with my panny plasma and just went past the 1,000 hour mark. Even during the first 100 hours I used the set in this way and constantly looked for BI/IR. Never any BI and minor IR that goes away in a couple of minutes once you watch something that uses that part of the screen. Obviously I would make sure you take it out of torch mode and then enjoy. As long as you buy a good named set most of the BI/IR issues are overblown.
post #158 of 1440
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Originally Posted by ebernazz View Post

I use the guide & saved playback quite often, play xbox360 a lot and have not had any problems with my panny plasma and just went past the 1,000 hour mark. Even during the first 100 hours I used the set in this way and constantly looked for BI/IR. Never any BI and minor IR that goes away in a couple of minutes once you watch something that uses that part of the screen. Obviously I would make sure you take it out of torch mode and then enjoy. As long as you buy a good named set most of the BI/IR issues are overblown.

I was actually thinking about the panny th42px6u at costco. Do you own a similar model? Also, do you stretch sd content or watch it in 4:3? That would greatly ease my fears. Maybe it's my eyes, but blacks on this lcd seem to just be this empty space to me. Tried wearing my glasses (slightly nearsighted) and that didn't help. And dvd over 480p is really grainy. Hard to enjoy the movie when I'm noticing blur and mosquitoes everywhere.
post #159 of 1440
I set up the Sony kdl40v2500 & panny 42px60u side by side in my house. I was limited by a wall opening so I only had 40.74 inches wide so these both fit nicely (very little room to spare). In the end the plasma had much better picture for movies and HD sports certainly no blur with any good source. I do sit 7-8 ft away and at first I thought the set looked big but now it does not. At that distance the 1080p lcd did not offer much clarity improvement until I used it as a pc monitor and then it was very nice. But in the end I bought it as a HT setup not a huge PC monitor so the plasma won. I do stretch SD using panny's JUST mode and I am so used to it it does not bother me at all. It is better than other fill modes in that it does not distort the people as badly. 480p DVD is excellent with the panny. I now have an upconverting HDMI dvd and with any decent dvd it is 90+% as good as HD.
post #160 of 1440
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Originally Posted by ebernazz View Post

I set up the Sony kdl40v2500 & panny 42px60u side by side in my house. I was limited by a wall opening so I only had 40.74 inches wide so these both fit nicely (very little room to spare). In the end the plasma had much better picture for movies and HD sports certainly no blur with any good source. I do sit 7-8 ft away and at first I thought the set looked big but now it does not. At that distance the 1080p lcd did not offer much clarity improvement until I used it as a pc monitor and then it was very nice. But in the end I bought it as a HT setup not a huge PC monitor so the plasma won. I do stretch SD using panny's JUST mode and I am so used to it it does not bother me at all. It is better than other fill modes in that it does not distort the people as badly. 480p DVD is excellent with the panny. I now have an upconverting HDMI dvd and with any decent dvd it is 90+% as good as HD.

They actually have these two models side-by-side at my local Best Buy which I've been frequenting lately. Almost every time I go there I have the idea that I'll get the plasma (partially from reading threads like this one that get me motivated), but I haven't bought it yet because I'm always so surprised at how much better the LCD looks. I know they don't show much dark content for comparison on the Best Buy HD video loop, but the image seems so much more crisp and bright on the LCD. When my eyes switch to the plasma it's as if the picture is out of focus.

Is this due to the 1080p capability of the Sony LCD (even though the content I'm sure is 720p)? Or is LCD tech surpassing plasma in picture clarity? I know there are many factors, one of which being I am watching the 2 TVs from too close a distance due to the showroom setup, but then again, it almost seems like every LCD they have is sharper than every plasma they have.

Most things I read here and elsewhere on the internet point to plasma as the superior picture (particularly for blacks and colors), and I'm thrilled about the plummeting prices, but every time I go to the showroom I come away feeling the LCDs look far better, including the brightness of the colors. What gives? Has anyone else had this experience? Is it just because of the artificial showroom environment? After all, deep blacks will definitely be important to me for my actual viewing habits. If anyone can help convince me I'm wrong about the LCDs I'd appreciate it-- I'll just march in there next time, ignoring what I see on the showroom, and save myself $1,000 or so.
post #161 of 1440
I'm going for LCD, just because they will completely dominate plasmas soon
post #162 of 1440
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Originally Posted by sirtiger55 View Post

I'm going for LCD, just because they will completely dominate plasmas soon

That makes no sense. The PQ is not upgradeable. It doesn't matter if in 1 year plasmas are completely gone from the market and LCDs have a picture quality that is 100 times better than plasma, because that won't change the quality of a TV you buy today one bit. The only thing that matters is what is the best looking TV at the moment your buying a TV. It's not like Blu-Ray vs. HD-DVD where if you go the wrong route you could end up with an obsolete product.
post #163 of 1440
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Originally Posted by sirtiger55 View Post

I'm going for LCD, just because they will completely dominate plasmas soon

LOL. Good for you, let me know how that works out for ya.
post #164 of 1440
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Originally Posted by himini View Post

They actually have these two models side-by-side at my local Best Buy which I've been frequenting lately. Almost every time I go there I have the idea that I'll get the plasma (partially from reading threads like this one that get me motivated), but I haven't bought it yet because I'm always so surprised at how much better the LCD looks. I know they don't show much dark content for comparison on the Best Buy HD video loop, but the image seems so much more crisp and bright on the LCD. When my eyes switch to the plasma it's as if the picture is out of focus.

Is this due to the 1080p capability of the Sony LCD (even though the content I'm sure is 720p)? Or is LCD tech surpassing plasma in picture clarity? I know there are many factors, one of which being I am watching the 2 TVs from too close a distance due to the showroom setup, but then again, it almost seems like every LCD they have is sharper than every plasma they have.

Most things I read here and elsewhere on the internet point to plasma as the superior picture (particularly for blacks and colors), and I'm thrilled about the plummeting prices, but every time I go to the showroom I come away feeling the LCDs look far better, including the brightness of the colors. What gives? Has anyone else had this experience? Is it just because of the artificial showroom environment? After all, deep blacks will definitely be important to me for my actual viewing habits. If anyone can help convince me I'm wrong about the LCDs I'd appreciate it-- I'll just march in there next time, ignoring what I see on the showroom, and save myself $1,000 or so.

It depends a bit on what models you're viewing. Comparing the top of the line LCDs to low tier plasmas & the LCDs will look better even in your house.

If you're looking at the top brand plasmas, they'll look much better in your house than they will in the store. Because LCDs can pump out nice bright pictures, they will look about the same. Of course that cranked setting won't look so good if your in a darkened room.
post #165 of 1440
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Originally Posted by why2not View Post

It depends a bit on what models you're viewing. Comparing the top of the line LCDs to low tier plasmas & the LCDs will look better even in your house.

If you're looking at the top brand plasmas, they'll look much better in your house than they will in the store. Because LCDs can pump out nice bright pictures, they will look about the same. Of course that cranked setting won't look so good if your in a darkened room.

The 2 models I was looking at in particular were the Sony kdl40v2500 & panny 42px60u, but I also might go so far as to say that just about any similarly-sized mid-range LCD seems to me to be sharper than a mid-range plasma, at least when compared side-by-side in the showrooms I've been to. (Again I hope to be wrong about this somehow.)
post #166 of 1440
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Originally Posted by himini View Post

The 2 models I was looking at in particular were the Sony kdl40v2500 & panny 42px60u, but I also might go so far as to say that just about any similarly-sized mid-range LCD seems to me to be sharper than a mid-range plasma, at least when compared side-by-side in the showrooms I've been to. (Again I hope to be wrong about this somehow.)

Be very careful about what you see in the show room. You might want to read through the first couple of pages in this thread
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=713090
although it is a discussion about various plasmas, it does contain some pearls of wisdom about in store settings. Try to ignore some of the personalites & see the information. BTW, for my $, there is no expert on this board who can put information out in a clear, easy to understand, down to earth explaination as well as RHarkness. He should be required reading for everyone under "expert" level.

And don't forget two other things, 1: make sure you are standing approximately seating distance when viewing in store 2: LCD technology virtually guarantees it will look better in store than plasma. If most of your viewing is on bright material on sunny afternoons, it will also look better in house. If you view at night, with more moody material then likely the plasma will come out ahead.

For instance, if we're watching a disney cartoon such as nemo or ice age, my family prefers to watch one of the LCDs. If it's prime time, everyone can be found at the plasma. Ironically, football gets the plasma also, even on sunny afternoons
post #167 of 1440
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Originally Posted by himini View Post

The 2 models I was looking at in particular were the Sony kdl40v2500 & panny 42px60u, but I also might go so far as to say that just about any similarly-sized mid-range LCD seems to me to be sharper than a mid-range plasma, at least when compared side-by-side in the showrooms I've been to. (Again I hope to be wrong about this somehow.)

We all have different viewing habits and requirements. There are good and bad issues with every set and with every technology. I'm an LCD owner and would not trade my set for any plasma currently on the market. Most plasma owners feel the same about their sets. There are 'experts' that support one technology and will tend to stress the benefits of their favorite set. This does not mean it is the 'right' set for you. The bottom line is that no matter what you read in these forums or elsewhere, the only person you need to please is yourself.

Before you buy, you may want to consider that "some" Sony users are reporting cloud issues with their sets. Also, the specific Sony you identified failed deinterlacing and 3:2 tests conducted by HDGURU http://hdguru.com/?p=17. The Panny passed deinterlace tests but also failed 3:2 pull down. http://www.hometheatermag.com/hookmeup/1106hook/

These tests may not be important to you. However, if you watch any 1080i content (deinterlace test) or movies (3:2 pull down) they should be.
post #168 of 1440
I've been browsing these forums for a while now and figured I'd finally post I went out tonight to finally buy a new tv. I was pretty much decided on either a 40' Sony LCD or the Samsung 40' 4095 1080P.... needless to say I left with a 42' Samsung 4253 Plasma... the picture (even with 720p) was sooooo much better than the other 2 and it was roughly $1200 less. I'll post more impressions after I have more use but the HD-DVD's look amazing.

- Jon
post #169 of 1440
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Originally Posted by Nmlobo View Post

These tests may not be important to you. However, if you watch any 1080i content (deinterlace test) or movies (3:2 pull down) they should be.

I think the real world impact of failing these tests should be called into question.
HOw many people think 3:2 flags are in a broadcast signal that you get from your provider even if it were in the source?
I bet those flags are cleared at the source when converted/uploaded for broadcast but who really knows?
post #170 of 1440
First off, I absolutely love this forum and appreciate all of the honest opinion and research that everyone brings to the table. Thanks to (and because of you, sadly) I am in a quandary regarding my HDTV purchase. So, let me boil this down. I've read all of the "LCD vs Plasma" threads, and gained a lot of valuable information regarding the pros and cons of both. Still, I feel that perhaps a post can help me boil down my decision.

I had originally felt that LCD was the way to go, after thorough research regarding plasmas and their tendency to "burn in." I had gone so far as to pick out the 42" Aquos LCD. Then, I found this forum, full of insight and warning regarding things I had no idea could happen. I now know of the "banding issues" with the Aquos, as well as other issues (clouding/etc) with other LCD sets. Suddenly, my sure-thing purchase idea was giving me second thoughts.

I researched some more, and found that the forum was generally favorable to the Panasonic brand of plasmas. I had the Panasonic 50" plasma (TH-50PX60U) picked out and ready to buy, after hearing nothing but great things about Pannys in general. Plus, Best Buy has the "No interest until 2010" financing deal going on, and the set was on sale.

I'd originally changed from LCD to plasma after considering my uses for the TV: I would be strictly watching Divx movies on an Oppo player, as well as HD content from an antenna. No SD if I can manage it. So, for a theater-like experience, plasma sounds like the way to go.

My only concern is regarding video game play. I've read the burn-in is almost nonexistent (after the first 100-hour or so "break-in" period). I've also read enough posts contradicting this theory to make me honestly think plasma is the best bet. Still, I had an issue at Best Buy that shook my "frail" confidence in my buying decision (and also cost Best Buy an easy commission).

I approached the Panny and a Best Buy dude immediately came over and asked me if I needed help. I asked him if the set came with legs/stand so I could just set it on my home entertainment center. He said yes, but then asked me what I'd be using the TV for. I told him movies mostly, and some gaming.

"Oh. You need to buy an LCD, then. Plasma burns in with any video gaming," he said.

I've read different, and I told him so. He called over another guy to back up his claim, and that other guy concurred: LCD is the only way to go, because you'll burn in your plasma.

The other guy was a lot more conversational about the differences, and asked me the standard HDTV questions: Will you be watching this in a room with a lot of ambient light? What gaming system would you use? How long do you play video games at a time? After explaining it all to him, he still suggested LCD.

So, here I am. I walked away from the store, almost back to where I began. I'm now asking you, the forum, for some help. I know you're all shuddering, because the last thing this forum needs is another "What TV should I buy?" thread.

Does Best Buy get kick-backs for selling certain TVs? Or does the commission on an LCD just make them more money because of the price increase? Is there any bias at all why two different BB employees would push me to buy an LCD?

I'm going to use a TV in a normally lit room, with dark curtains on the only window in the room. I plan on just watching DVDs and Divx, and playing PS2. I'm more interested in a beautiful picture than proper resolution scanning. I am highly concerned about burn-in, so I would plan on "breaking in" the TV (following some thread advice here at the forum) before hardcore use.

I apologize for the scattershot nature of my thoughts. The Best Buy financing sale ends on 2/3/07, so I'd like to make my final decision by then. I've still leaning towards the Panny, unless someone knows of some drastic reason that I shouldn't purchase it. I just need some reassurance, I suppose! Humor me.

Thanks for much for any help, and thank everyone for this wonderful forum!

-CoN-
post #171 of 1440
Your assumptions are right.....the BB employees do not know what they are talking about. You may get some IR after extended video game play if there are static images, but it can/does go away the majority of the time especially with a better quality set like the Panny. I play games with HUDs on my Pioneer all the time for hours on end and have never even seen IR. Just make sure you take care of it and don't get carried away and you'll be fine. Good luck and welcome to the forum.
post #172 of 1440
Well I've have had my Samsung 4253 for 2 days now and I'm loving it. I played 360 for the first time today for about an hour and a half (Madden 07) and after turning it off I checked the white screen and the EA logo was there ever so slightly (had to be about 3-4 inches away to see it)... so I put in a movie and started watching it... checked white screen 5 minutes in and the logo was gone. I do play video games but no nearly as much as I watch movies so for me the Plasma was hands down the better choice and even with that slight IR (made me nervous for a second) I don't regret my choice even the slightest bit. And Samsung seems to have some awesome anti-burn tech on their plasmas. I've been very impressed with the set so far.

- Jon
post #173 of 1440
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Originally Posted by Cult Of NeurISIS View Post

"Oh. You need to buy an LCD, then. Plasma burns in with any video gaming," he said.

Ok, you will find very few BB employees who know more than you do after all of your research.
True story: I had an "expert" (BB employee) walk up to me during my buying process. He saw me looking at plasmas/lcds.
"Oh you don't want XX plasma, it use twice the power and put out 3x the heat of YY LCD that you're comparing it to. And that heat will have to be removed by your air conditioner, so that's like 4x the energy cost."
"You mean this plasma and this LCD?" I replied.
"Absolutly."
"These two right here?"
"Yup."
"You're sure?"
"Positive."
I pointed out to him that the LCD specs were showing more watts than the plasma. Well, it took a while to make him understand what watts were. During that time, the area manager wandered over. I had to go through essentially the same conversation with him.
He told me that I was all twisted up. According to him, watts referred to the light output of the screens, not power. In this case, per manager, of course LCDs were brighter, which was why it had higher watts. He used a light bulb analogy. The employee was soaking all of this "wisdom" in like a sponge.
I asked him if he knew what units his electrical company measued his power in. "kilowatt-hours" he responded, "that's totally different than watts, the hours is what makes it power."
My wife was giving me the "If you don't get out of here now, I'll divorce you" look, so I gave up. I feel sorry for the average customer that accepts this "expert opinion".

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Originally Posted by Cult Of NeurISIS View Post

I know you're all shuddering, because the last thing this forum needs is another "What TV should I buy?" thread.

Is there any bias at all why two different BB employees would push me to buy an LCD?

We've all been there. Those who are sick of "help me buy" threads just typically don't read them or answer them.

Well, they can have "specials" where the whoever sells the most XX model in the month gets a free tv as an incentive. I'm not sure if that is national, or only done at local stores. But I suspect most of the time it's well intentioned ignorance. Joe Average is going to buy an LCD, not a plasma. LCD's tend to look better in the bright lights of the BB type showroom. The sales people see people buying LCD's, see them look better in the showroom and form a bias towards them.

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Originally Posted by Cult Of NeurISIS View Post

I am highly concerned about burn-in, so I would plan on "breaking in" the TV (following some thread advice here at the forum) before hardcore use.

Gaming can be tough on a plasma. I only let the kids use mine for some of the "darker games" such as rainbow6, etc where they need the extra shadow detail. I've never had any issues. Just make sure you take it out of "dynamic" mode where it is comes pre-set. That's the mode plasma manufactures use to try to compete on the brightly lit BB showroom against the LCDs. As long as you "watch tv" in full screen mode for as many hours as you play, you shouldn't have an IR problem.
post #174 of 1440
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Originally Posted by Elemental1 View Post

I think the real world impact of failing these tests should be called into question.
HOw many people think 3:2 flags are in a broadcast signal that you get from your provider even if it were in the source?
I bet those flags are cleared at the source when converted/uploaded for broadcast but who really knows?

You may be correct..... however, I really doubt the flags are cleared but it is possible. Unless a set operates in multiples of 24fps, something has to be converting those 24fps into a judder-free display.
post #175 of 1440
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Originally Posted by why2not View Post

My wife was giving me the "If you don't get out of here now, I'll divorce you" look, so I gave up. I feel sorry for the average customer that accepts this "expert opinion".

My wife was giving me the same look, hence my leaving the store empty-handed. I just find it annoying that someone would work that hard trying to talk you out of a purchase. I understand BB's new "HDTV Education" push, but trying to forcibly change my mind and undermine my buying confidence seems contradictory to making a sale.

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Originally Posted by whyn2not View Post

Gaming can be tough on a plasma. I only let the kids use mine for some of the "darker games" such as rainbow6, etc where they need the extra shadow detail. I've never had any issues. Just make sure you take it out of "dynamic" mode where it is comes pre-set. That's the mode plasma manufactures use to try to compete on the brightly lit BB showroom against the LCDs. As long as you "watch tv" in full screen mode for as many hours as you play, you shouldn't have an IR problem.

This is still my concern, as I can zone out and play RPGs and other games with HUDs for hours on end. I guess my major question for this great board is this:

Is there a standard gameplay time amount that is "plasma-safe"? Do I need to set a timer to remind myself? (Kidding)

I've read a lot of posts from people with both technologies in their home, and that could also be an option. I would hate to risk ruining the Panny when I can just play my games on a cheapy (yet still quality) LCD in another room. I'm not that egotistical that I need to see my low-rez PS2 games on my huge plasma.

With THAT in mind (whew), are there any recommendations for sub-$1000 (possibly off-brand) 38-42"LCD HDTVs? I'd like SOME quality, but since it'd be used for strictly gaming (and occasional DVD watching if the wife wants to watch "Grease" for the 80th time), I can handle less-than-stellar features.

Again, thanks to everyone for their help. I think this board should advertise in the HDTV section of Best Buy to help consumers save thousands of dollars on horrible purchases. Lord knows the BB employees are of no use.

-CoN-
post #176 of 1440
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Originally Posted by Cult Of NeurISIS View Post

With THAT in mind (whew), are there any recommendations for sub-$1000 (possibly off-brand) LCD HDTVs?

Plenty depending on size. BTW, from what I can gather & my own experience, as long as you keep your game HUD <50% of the total viewing time, you should be fine. And most plasmas have a decreased brightness mode for gaming (pioneer calls theirs "game") also. Just set your game console up on it's own input & set that input at game & you won't have to worry about messing with the picture settings (beyond getting on the correct input of course).

And burn in will be proceeded by IR. If you see IR from gaming, watch tv for a while (or plug in Nemo) untill it is gone before playing that game again. Then you'll never get burn in (provided you don't abuse the display).
post #177 of 1440
Even as an LCD owner, I have to agree tht this whole scary-IR-burning talk is WAY excessive.

As others have noted, you only need to worry (slightly) about it if you're a dedicated, hardcore, 10 hours a day kind of gamer who hardly watches any TV/movies. Otherwise, base your buying decision on your lighting/room/viewing needs ... and I have to admit, again, that plasmas win out except for those who (like me) want to use their HDTVs as PC monitors on a relatively regular basis.

1920x1080 for PC use was just about essential for MY needs, and I could only afford an LCD with that res All that said, I DO love my LCD, but I don't doubt I would have been relativey satisfied with the tradeoff of a plasma (better PQ & scaling, on the whole, albeit with lower resolution for PC/PS3 usage)
post #178 of 1440
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Originally Posted by ashutoshsm View Post

1920x1080 for PC use was just about essential for MY needs, and I could only afford an LCD with that res All that said, I DO love my LCD, but I don't doubt I would have been relativey satisfied with the tradeoff of a plasma (better PQ & scaling, on the whole, albeit with lower resolution for PC/PS3 usage)

What would a 42", 1024x768 plasma do to a computer signal? Stretch it horizontally?

Since a TV like that has to scale every source anyway, is it still necessary to match the PC's output to the display's native resolution?
post #179 of 1440
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Originally Posted by Inkling View Post

What would a 42", 1024x768 plasma do to a computer signal? Stretch it horizontally?

Since a TV like that has to scale every source anyway, is it still necessary to match the PC's output to the display's native resolution?

The answer would likely depend upon the TV's capabiilty to handle multiple pure-digital PC resolutions as DVI (if it has a DVI input) or DVI-over-HDMI (if it implements such a mode, as my Sceptre does) or RGB (VGA) inputs.

I can't speak for specific 1024x768 Plasma displays, but I do know that a native PC source would look grossly scaled and quite unacceptable to me at that native resolution. Not to mention 1024x768 woud be inadequate at my viewing/PC usage distance of 7ish feet. Which is also why I DO appreciate the benefits of 1080p TVs over short viewing distances with 1080i HDTV and 1080p PS3/BluRay sources
post #180 of 1440
UPDATE - Thanks to the confidence boost from your responses, I went ahead and bought the Panny 50" plasma...

AND an LCD.

I decided to throw down some extra bank and get the best of both worlds. Thanks to the financing deal (and various price specials) at BB, I picked up the 50" Panny (for movies and HDTV) and a 32" Westinghouse LCD (for gaming and HDTV). The price was a little more than I originally planned, but I feel completely satisfied with the purchase so far.

Unfortunately, I could only get the LCD home in my tiny car. So far, I've found that HDTV alone is enough to justifiy whatever purchase anyone may decide. The jump from SDTV is remarkable.

I'm going to treat the plasma with care and it will be the centerpiece of my new home. With the cheaper LCD being used as the video game TV, I won't have any worries about burn-in from that aspect.

So, long story short, I appreciate every response I received. My route may not work for everyone (and wouldn't have worked for me without the financing), but I feel no remorse. For now.

We'll see how I feel after the plasma's up and running.

Thanks so much, and hopefully my noobish questions will help another person with their first purchase.

-CoN-
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