Tosh HD-XA2 1080p HD DVD - First End User Reports!: USERS ONLY PLEASE! - Page 142

Originally Posted by qz3fwd

I am the proud new owner of a brand new HD-XA2!
Should have it next week.

Originally Posted by Paul.R.S

Just curious: where did you find a brand new (as in, unopened original retail box?) player?

Originally Posted by GmanAVS

hehe... well I have an unopened XA2 and A35 in my basement.... just in case my current Dec 2006 build (Made in Japan) XA2 decides to kick the bucket

Originally Posted by sonydude1966

What if they're defective? You won't know until after you open and test them. The XA2 is known to have the 1080p shutdown bug. I know I had 2 NIB XA2's from value electronics when they last sold them. One had the bug. Exchanging it (when Toshiba was fully stocked) was the only way to get a NIB replacement. I would constantly wonder about that, so I wouldn't be able to keep an unopened player.

Originally Posted by Paul.R.S

Just curious: where did you find a brand new (as in, unopened original retail box?) player?

Originally Posted by qz3fwd

HeHe, thats going to cost you.
But seriously, it will be delivered tomorrow.
Should be brand new unopened retail box (non-refurb).

Originally Posted by Paul.R.S

Is it a state secret? Why? And if so, why are you posting (gloating?) about it . . . in a "owners"/users thread . . . that largely concerns player operational issues, not undisclosable sources of acquiring the player in the first place?

"But seriously," indeed.

Originally Posted by Paul.R.S

I wear boxers, thanks.

Interesting that you got a New deck via Amazon Marketplace. I check those listings periodically (and sell various goodies through my Marketplace "store") and have never seen a listing for a New one, always Like New on down in quality. Congrats to you.

Originally Posted by iamian

Kmart.com has one for $299 shipped.

Originally Posted by Paul.R.S

I wear boxers, thanks.

Interesting that you got a New deck via Amazon Marketplace. I check those listings periodically (and sell various goodies through my Marketplace "store") and have never seen a listing for a New one, always Like New on down in quality. Congrats to you.

Originally Posted by carledwards

Just a quick update to say that I've had my XA2 for over a year now and it's been flawless. Mine was a refurb from Overstock. I've pretty much bought everything of even remote interest on HD-DVD and lately, those $5 Amazon deals have been hard to beat!

So I've compiled a nice HD library and the player is excellent. Good A/V value, I'd say.

PS: I do have a like-new A30 in a box for future, backup purposes. It works, too. I used it prior to getting the XA2.

Originally Posted by snowghost

Is there a special link to the Amazon $5 HD DVDs?

Originally Posted by LarryChanin

Please, don't encourage more of these paranoid delusional conspiracy theories. In the extremely unlikely case he can dredge up something vaguely credible on the stupidity of Radio Shack, what does that have anything to do with Toshiba?

It's already been pointed out the supreme illogic of any manufacturer deliberately sabotaging their products. Would such a stupid strategy induce you to re-purchase their product?!

What exactly is the point of this off-topic march into fantasyland?

Larry

Originally Posted by redjr

If I could continue off topic a bit more...

I wouldn't exactly call it a march into fantasyland. I had a microwave oven fail mysteriously on day 366 of a 365 day warranty. I don't even want to think about the odds of that happening as a result of parts malfunction. Instead, it goes by another name - 'planned obsolescence'.

As for sabotaging products... how about keeping the revenue stream rolling in. While this incident didn't keep me from purchasing another - same make and model - I did it more for finding out if it does it again. Since the microwave didn't cost me anything directly and was relatively inexpensive, I thought it would be an interesting observation if it does.

While I agree this pactice is not and should not be standard, or even acceptable behavior, or barely practiced, I would not put it past some less ethically inclined manufacturers in various parts of the world, stamping out consumer electronics. Plus, a "time-bomb" is very easy to trigger and would be very difficult to prove - short of taking the time to reverse engineer the firmware. Something even Consumer Reports is not likely to do. And, given these economically challenging times makes the practice at least more tempting.

Just my .02.

redjr...

Originally Posted by snowghost

Well my Toshiba SD 2107 bought back in 1999 is still in use today after lending it to one friend for a couple years and finally giving it to another for use up at his cabin.

Originally Posted by snowghost

Well my Toshiba SD 2107 bought back in 1999 is still in use today after lending it to one friend for a couple years and finally giving it to another for use up at his cabin.

Originally Posted by Gary J

You sure? I thought I bought mine in '96.

Originally Posted by redjr

If I could continue off topic a bit more...

I wouldn't exactly call it a march into fantasyland. I had a microwave oven fail mysteriously on day 366 of a 365 day warranty. I don't even want to think about the odds of that happening as a result of parts malfunction. Instead, it goes by another name - 'planned obsolescence'.

As for sabotaging products... how about keeping the revenue stream rolling in. While this incident didn't keep me from purchasing another - same make and model - I did it more for finding out if it does it again. Since the microwave didn't cost me anything directly and was relatively inexpensive, I thought it would be an interesting observation if it does.

While I agree this pactice is not and should not be standard, or even acceptable behavior, or barely practiced, I would not put it past some less ethically inclined manufacturers in various parts of the world, stamping out consumer electronics. Plus, a "time-bomb" is very easy to trigger and would be very difficult to prove - short of taking the time to reverse engineer the firmware. Something even Consumer Reports is not likely to do. And, given these economically challenging times makes the practice at least more tempting.

Just my .02.

redjr...

Originally Posted by LarryChanin

Hi,

I repeat, those individuals who insist on conspiracy theories at every turn are living in a paranoid delusional fantasyland.

Such a practice of deliberately sabotaging a company's own products only gives other manufacturers a competitive advantage.

Sure it provides revenue streams, but to other competing products. It's just plain stupid, particularly in these economically challenging times where viable companies need to demonstrate the superior quality of their products.

Do us all a favor and take these absurd and unproductive off-topic theories to another thread, or better yet, take them to another website entirely.

Just my .02.

Larry

Originally Posted by redjr

We get your point Larry. You don't have to insist that those whom believe the practice MAY go on are delusional or paranoid. You're just trying to stoke the fire and be argumentative. There doesn't have to be any name calling in stating your case.

redjr...

Originally Posted by skeet25

I have a 1-year old refurb XA2, which I'm now concluding has a hardware problem with HDMI sync'ing up to the display. Initially, I had it connected to my BenQ 8700+ projector, and it would take multiple power cycles before it would sync up and display an image. Since the BenQ is 4 years old, I attributed this to HDCP handshake issues with older equipment.

Now I have a Pioneer FPJ1, and the problem is still there, but worse. Now it takes more power cycles for sync up to happen. Maybe this is related to 1080p/24 whereas with the BenQ I was driving 720p...

I've tried:
different HDMI cables
different power up sequence, i.e. pj first then XA2, XA2 then pj
powering up XA2 with the pj selecting a different HDMI input, then switching, etc.

So far, no luck.

I'm running 4.0 firmware. Any suggestions anybody?

Is Toshiba still repairing XA2? How much for out-of-warranty work?