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post #4321 of 4650
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Originally Posted by jdryyz View Post

Wait...wait..the Oppo BDP-83 BD is available to purchase now?

You'll need to register on their website and await notification of when you can buy. But yes it's out for "general" consumption.
post #4322 of 4650
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Originally Posted by jdryyz View Post

Wait...wait..the Oppo BDP-83 BD is available to purchase now?

Yes. If it is not readily available to buy on their website, just simply sign up to be notified about the player, and in a short time you should receive a private invitation to purchase the player via email.
This is how they are selling the player to very interested buyers right now until they are ready for mass public sales.
post #4323 of 4650
Ahhh....so nothing new from what I last read. I think I will probably hold off a while longer.

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Originally Posted by Smarty-pants View Post

Yes. If it is not readily available to buy on their website, just simply sign up to be notified about the player, and in a short time you should receive a private invitation to purchase the player via email.
This is how they are selling the player to very interested buyers right now until they are ready for mass public sales.
post #4324 of 4650
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Originally Posted by jdryyz View Post

Ahhh....so nothing new from what I last read. I think I will probably hold off a while longer.

...but you sounded so eager a couple of posts ago...
post #4325 of 4650
I am a eager....for the finished product. I just get the sense that it is not quite complete yet from what I've read in the forum. I would be happy to be convinced otherwise.

I should probably move this outside of the XA2 thread in case it gets way off course, but what is Oppo's decision behind selling the product in this manner? Does it carry an obligation to provide feedback to the manufacturer?

Thanks.

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...but you sounded so eager a couple of posts ago...
post #4326 of 4650
Includes two dying audio formats and way over-priced... Pass.
post #4327 of 4650
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Originally Posted by Gary J View Post

Includes two dying audio formats and way over-priced... Pass.

Relevant in XA2 thread vis a vis SD upconversion. It is as good or better than XA2 and as such will allow you to save it for HD duty if you're concerned about keeping HDs around for awhile--which I am.

I just bought "Unforgiven" HD-DVD for $2.49 brand new.
post #4328 of 4650
I wouldn't say it is overpriced for those people out who still *want* the dying audio formats supported. I need something to replace my crappy Pioneer Elite SACD/DVD-Audio/DVD player. The Oppo includes BD playback and superior DVD upscaling. Yep, worth the cost.


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Originally Posted by Gary J View Post

Includes two dying audio formats and way over-priced... Pass.
post #4329 of 4650
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Originally Posted by snowghost View Post

Relevant in XA2 thread vis a vis SD upconversion.

Good scaling and de-interlacing has become cheap and is everywhere - players, AVRs even displays. No longer necessary to spend hundreds extra for marginal improvement.
post #4330 of 4650
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Originally Posted by Gary J View Post

Includes two dying audio formats and way over-priced... Pass.

Vinyl was delcared dying/dead at one point also.

"Hilarious" to be calling SA-CD and DVD-A "dying" in an XA2 thread. One could argue that both are more alive than HD DVD, certainly SA-CD--it's still being produced. There are XA2s listed on Amazon Marketplace right now priced at or above the BDP-83's cost.

It's debatable whether a format can legitmately be called "dying" or dead as long as there are folks out there with libraries of titles. One wouldn't think that point need be made in an XA2 thread.
post #4331 of 4650
Well said.


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Originally Posted by Paul.R.S View Post

Vinyl was delcared dying/dead one one point also.

"Hilarious" to be calling SA-CD and DVD-A "dying" in an XA2 thread. One could argue that both are more alive than HD DVD, certainly SA-CD--it's still being produced. There are XA2s listed on Amazon Marketplace right now priced at or above the BDP-83's cost.

It's debatable whether a format can legitmately be called "dying" or dead as long as there re folks out there with libraries of titles. One wouldn't think that point need be made in an XA2 thread.
post #4332 of 4650
Just for Blu-ray and sd-dvd, it's worth the price for those seeking the player with best PQ/AQ.
I use the BDP-83 for BR/DVD/SACD/DVDA/USB.
I use the HD-XA2 for non-region-1 DVD/HD DVD.

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Originally Posted by jdryyz View Post

I should probably move this outside of the XA2 thread in case it gets way off course

Too late!
post #4333 of 4650
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Originally Posted by Paul.R.S View Post

Vinyl was delcared dying/dead at one point also.

"Hilarious" to be calling SA-CD and DVD-A "dying" in an XA2 thread. One could argue that both are more alive than HD DVD, certainly SA-CD--it's still being produced. There are XA2s listed on Amazon Marketplace right now priced at or above the BDP-83's cost.

It's debatable whether a format can legitmately be called "dying" or dead as long as there are folks out there with libraries of titles. One wouldn't think that point need be made in an XA2 thread.

I love laserdisc and HD DVD but once there is no more hardware or software being produced the format is dead. Laserdisc even beat out HD DVD because Pioneer only recently announced it is ceasing production of its combo LD/DVD player. I think you can still get new ones.
post #4334 of 4650
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Originally Posted by jedi.master.dre View Post

I love laserdisc and HD DVD but once there is no more hardware or software being produced the format is dead. Laserdisc even beat out HD DVD because Pioneer only recently announced it is ceasing production of its combo LD/DVD player. I think you can still get new ones.

That's right. The only reason it has been around so long, is because there have been enough SUCKERS out there to pay the outrageous price for a new one for so many years.
Sometime soon, we'll see an etailer or two selling them for $99 shipped
post #4335 of 4650
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Originally Posted by jedi.master.dre View Post

I love laserdisc and HD DVD but once there is no more hardware or software being produced the format is dead.

That's of course fine if you want to embrace what could be called such an "academic" definition.

I prefer the practical one that respects the reality of and acknowledges me watching the Grand Prix HD DVD and listening to the Sinatra At the Sands DVD-A.
post #4336 of 4650
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Originally Posted by Paul.R.S View Post

That's of course fine if you want to embrace what could be called such an "academic" definition.

I prefer the practical one that respects the reality of and acknowledges me watching the Grand Prix HD DVD and listening to the Sinatra At the Sands DVD-A.

And listening to 8-tracks in your car and living room...
post #4337 of 4650
haa, haa, haa!!
post #4338 of 4650
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Originally Posted by Smarty-pants View Post

That's right. The only reason it has been around so long, is because there have been enough SUCKERS out there to pay the outrageous price for a new one for so many years.
Sometime soon, we'll see an etailer or two selling them for $99 shipped

Laserdisc or HD DVD?

Everything you said applies to both formats except LD players will probably never be sold new for $99.
post #4339 of 4650
Ah you gots jokes from the Great White North, eh?

The issue of form factor delimits the applicability of the 8-track issue IMO. I'm referring to our fabulous ability--with the right player--to enjoy nearly all of our wonderful 5-inch optical discs via one deck in the highest fidelity practically possible in our homes.
post #4340 of 4650
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Originally Posted by jedi.master.dre View Post

Everything you said applies to both formats . . .

Such a party foul in an XA2 thread. So you think we're all suckers for having XA2s?
post #4341 of 4650
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Originally Posted by jedi.master.dre View Post

Laserdisc or HD DVD?

Everything you said applies to both formats except LD players will probably never be sold new for $99.

Referring to LD players. If they are in a warehouse collecting dust, then they surely will be sold for $99 (or less)... maybe rebadged as refurbished with 90 day warranty or something similar.
post #4342 of 4650
Forgive me if this has been asked.Since I also have a XA-2 for HD-DVD use,I'm curious about the standard DVD upscaling of the new Oppo 83 vs. the XA-2.How much better is it?The Toshiba is slightly better than the PS-3 on standard DVD,is the Oppo slightly better than the XA-2 ,or more than slightly? My plan is to save the XA-2 for for HD-DVD only.Thanks,JB
post #4343 of 4650
Generally the OPPO will be slightly better than the XA2. For some content with rare cadences and with some discs with bad editing, the OPPO can and will be substantially better than the XA2.
For the most part, the processing in the OPPO will make PQ look more real and natural.
For most real world content, the two players are very close for overall PQ for dvd content.
I have been using BOTH the Reon processor and the VRS processor in different players on a regular basis for about a year and a half now. I definately prefer the VRS from Anchor Bay.

I use an XA2 for HD DVDs and NON-region-1 DVDs, then use the BDP-83 for Blu-ray and everything else.
post #4344 of 4650
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Originally Posted by Smarty-pants View Post

Generally the OPPO will be slightly better than the XA2. For some content with rare cadences and with some discs with bad editing, the OPPO can and will be substantially better than the XA2.
For the most part, the processing in the OPPO will make PQ look more real and natural.
For most real world content, the two players are very close for overall PQ for dvd content.
I have been using BOTH the Reon processor and the VRS processor in different players on a regular basis for about a year and a half now. I definately prefer the VRS from Anchor Bay.

I use an XA2 for HD DVDs and NON-region-1 DVDs, then use the BDP-83 for Blu-ray and everything else.

I agree.
post #4345 of 4650
I have always had my X-A2 set to have a max resolution output of 1080P. My TV (Sony KDS50A3000) accept 24fps material, and does a nice job with Blu-Rays (output from PS3 at 1080/24fps), so I thought I'd try it with my X-A2. As soon as I set the maximum output resolution on the X-A2 to 1080/24fps, there was a very noticable constant flicker on the screen. I went back to 1080p and it was gone. Any idea what setting I might adjust to get the benefit of 1080/24 output and not have the flicker?
post #4346 of 4650
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Originally Posted by agentalbert View Post

I have always had my X-A2 set to have a max resolution output of 1080P. My TV (Sony KDS50A3000) accept 24fps material, and does a nice job with Blu-Rays (output from PS3 at 1080/24fps), so I thought I'd try it with my X-A2. As soon as I set the maximum output resolution on the X-A2 to 1080/24fps, there was a very noticable constant flicker on the screen. I went back to 1080p and it was gone. Any idea what setting I might adjust to get the benefit of 1080/24 output and not have the flicker?


do you have the latest firmware installed on your XA-2?
post #4347 of 4650
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Originally Posted by agentalbert View Post

I have always had my X-A2 set to have a max resolution output of 1080P. My TV (Sony KDS50A3000) accept 24fps material, and does a nice job with Blu-Rays (output from PS3 at 1080/24fps), so I thought I'd try it with my X-A2. As soon as I set the maximum output resolution on the X-A2 to 1080/24fps, there was a very noticable constant flicker on the screen. I went back to 1080p and it was gone. Any idea what setting I might adjust to get the benefit of 1080/24 output and not have the flicker?

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Originally Posted by HiHoStevo View Post

do you have the latest firmware installed on your XA-2?

I believe so. I have updated every time they mailed me a CD with a new version. Looking on the firmware update thread, is 4000N the latest one? How do I display the firmware version?
post #4348 of 4650
There are 2 settings to change. In this thread somewhere. use the Search Thread function.
post #4349 of 4650
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Originally Posted by Gary J View Post

There are 2 settings to change. In this thread somewhere. use the Search Thread function.

Yeah, I've been looking around, but I keep pulling up posts discussing firmware 2.7 vs. 2.8 and an audio problem this fixes. Do you know a particular keyword for a post that addresses my issue? Or do you know what settings I need to change?
post #4350 of 4650
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Originally Posted by agentalbert View Post

Yeah, I've been looking around, but I keep pulling up posts discussing firmware 2.7 vs. 2.8 and an audio problem this fixes. Do you know a particular keyword for a post that addresses my issue? Or do you know what settings I need to change?

You might try setting the unit to "Film" mode instead of "Auto".
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