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post #241 of 1392
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Originally Posted by sac209 View Post

Hello,

My fiancee and I are moving into our new townhouse and we've decided to purchase Orbs for the living room. We have no dedicated home theater, so this is it. I've attached the floorplan with dimensions. My main questions are:

1) Can we go with Mod1s for all of the speakers, or do we at least need the People's Choice (Mod2s for the CC and fronts)?

2) Where should we put them in this screwy layout with the two openings to other rooms?

3) If we mount them on/near the ceiling (kinda like the photos on page 7 of this thread), and angle them towards the couch with the multi-mounts, will they sound okay?

I appreciate everyone's help!


Thanks,
Scott

Get the People's Choice....I own these things and unless your room is extremely small the Mod 1's are not going to cut it. Trust me on this.
post #242 of 1392
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Originally Posted by CKYRO1 View Post

well, i upgraded to the hsu vtf3 mk3 subwoofer. super 8, it was nice knowing you. super 8 is a great sub for the size/price, but the difference now is not just audible, it's physical.


How is the 3.3 working with the orbs and at what crossover? I also own this sub and am looking for possible speakers ie. orb but I am not sure how that nice low sub would work the the orbs. Anyone else have any ideas if the vtf3 MK3 would work with the orbs and what would be a good crossover? The sub is not centered up front but in the back of the listening area sandwiched between the couch and wall of a 11x12 room.
post #243 of 1392
I have two mod1 orbs on the way. I am not sure how to fill out my system at the moment. I have an HSU vt3 mk3 sub, onkyo 605 receiver and the two orbs coming to see how they compare to my current HTIB infinity speakers.

My room is an 11x11x8 setup with one open wall. the side speakers will be about 5ft away from the main spot and the front speakers will be 10feet away. Mod 1 ok all the way around or should I do mod1 sides (as planned) and mod 2's up front? I also would like to have a different center(infinity was a recommendation) and am worried about crossing the hsu sub. I'd like to avoid localizing the sub as it will be on the back wall near the right surround speaker. Might be up for adding the HSU mid bass mod mbm-12 but also not sure how that would work.

Any help on the setup or orb recommendations to fill out my system?

Thanks
post #244 of 1392
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Originally Posted by grizmul View Post

I have two mod1 orbs on the way. I am not sure how to fill out my system at the moment. I have an HSU vt3 mk3 sub, onkyo 605 receiver and the two orbs coming to see how they compare to my current HTIB infinity speakers.

My room is an 11x11x8 setup with one open wall. the side speakers will be about 5ft away from the main spot and the front speakers will be 10feet away. Mod 1 ok all the way around or should I do mod1 sides (as planned) and mod 2's up front? I also would like to have a different center(infinity was a recommendation) and am worried about crossing the hsu sub. I'd like to avoid localizing the sub as it will be on the back wall near the right surround speaker. Might be up for adding the HSU mid bass mod mbm-12 but also not sure how that would work.

Any help on the setup or orb recommendations to fill out my system?

Thanks

You only want to use Mod1's in the smallest of rooms. Don't run anything but Mod2's all across the front. I run a full Mod 2 setup in my bedroom and also a RV Motor home. The Mod1's were not getting the job done.
post #245 of 1392
Is it the amount of sound they put out or do mod2s change how things sound? Since I have two mod 1 orbs coming I can just wire them up as a mod 2 to see how it sounds, correct?
post #246 of 1392
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Originally Posted by grizmul View Post

Is it the amount of sound they put out or do mod2s change how things sound? Since I have two mod 1 orbs coming I can just wire them up as a mod 2 to see how it sounds, correct?

I have a hard time describing what I hear but the Mod2's have a much fuller, more enveloping sound to them. You'll just have to see for yourself and yes wiring two of them together to make a Mod2 takes just a minute or two.

Having said all that I am sure you will like them, for a small form speaker system they are great.
post #247 of 1392
I'm currently debating the Mod1, Mod1 PLUS, or People's Choice as well. I thought since my room is small (10'x15') and HT area even smaller (10'x10') I could get away with Mod1 PLUS (single orbs at all four corners and double for the CC) but based on what I'm reading here it seems like I might need to go for People's Choice. Usage will be almost all games, movies, and TV, with some music. Anyone else have thoughts on this? Any Mod1 owners happy with their setup, and if so, how big is your room? Thank you!
post #248 of 1392
Can you get by with Mod1's and Mod2 CC - absolutely, however only you can decide if it is adequate. I started with Mod2's for LCR and Mod1's for rears, but noticed an improvement when I made the rears Mod2's as well. My room is a little bigger (16 X 24) which makes a difference. The great thing about the Orbs is that you can start with Mod1's for L, R, and rears and upgrade if you feel the need. Or, you can go ahead and order Mod2's and compare the sound when you change them to Mod1's. If you are OK with the Mod1's, then you can simply send the extras back. Pretty cool system!
post #249 of 1392
I think I've mentioned this before but just incase.

I have an all Mod1 setup. I'm happy with it and currently have no plans to upgrade to Mod2's. My room is a small condo living room approx 11 x 12 w/ 8'8" ceiling and open on one side to the dining and kitchen area. Yes I'm sure Mod2's would sound louder (Orb folks say they just make it louder/more output, Freq Resp is virtually the same), but I'm happy with my Mod1's. Then again in my condo I can't really crank it up but the Mod1's output plenty for me. I also like the more discrete look of Mod1's.

Just offering my input.

PS- the fact that you can upgrade any of all of the speakers later to Mod2's is a great option as others posted.
post #250 of 1392
I've had the Orbs for two months now (sheesh) and I'm still pleased with them - I've been using them a lot for music (and Dora the Explorer of late and they do a great job, the Super8: not so much.

It's the weak link, it's at max, +5 (or more) on the receiver and it's just not enough for my space. I don't listen to boomy bass, I just need to hear it when it's there - when it's supposed to be there; my room is just too big and cranking it just makes it boomy.

I'm upgrading the upstairs in late fall with the new mid-tower SVS line and will be going with the whole package and using the new sub downstairs (same model but a cube as I have upstairs).

I contacted Orb about buying a B-Stock Super 8 to see if that would help - they never got back to me.

For a small room, as many have mentioned, the Mod1+S8 is probably an awesome package.
post #251 of 1392
I'm going to purchase a 5.1 Mod 2 setup for my new apartment and I've been thinking about using the Onkyo 605 to power them. Is this a good choice, for those with experience out there, will the setup make me happy? If I'm pleased with the 5.1 setup, I'm planning on moving up to a 7.1 Mod 2 setup. Might be overkill but...why not

I've read that the Mod 2's work fine with an 8ohm receiver like the 605, does anyone know if there are specific issues with this configuration on the Onkyo?

Please advise!!! I'd be willing to step up the receiver if anyone thinks its necessary.

1600 dollars for a nice 5.1 setup seems to be a steal, can't wait!

Best,
Evan
post #252 of 1392
Here's a quick pic of the front view of my Orb's and tv now that I've finally got them on the wall.

Ok I added a pic of the Orb surrounds on the back wall. They are low res but give the idea of the setup.
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post #253 of 1392
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Originally Posted by bigevan23 View Post

I'm going to purchase a 5.1 Mod 2 setup for my new apartment and I've been thinking about using the Onkyo 605 to power them. Is this a good choice, for those with experience out there, will the setup make me happy? If I'm pleased with the 5.1 setup, I'm planning on moving up to a 7.1 Mod 2 setup. Might be overkill but...why not

I've read that the Mod 2's work fine with an 8ohm receiver like the 605, does anyone know if there are specific issues with this configuration on the Onkyo?

Please advise!!! I'd be willing to step up the receiver if anyone thinks its necessary.

1600 dollars for a nice 5.1 setup seems to be a steal, can't wait!

Best,
Evan

I have the 605, and bought a 7.1 setup of orbs, three Mod 2's across the front, and four Mod 1's across the back, with an NEC subwoofer. In two weeks I have had two separate speakers blow, one half of the Mod2 on each of the left and right fronts on different occasions. I am sending the orbs back since they can't seem to take being driven by the Onk 605. When I called orb about it, they asked at what level I was listening and what the source was, and I told them around 85 on the 0-100 scale of the Onk 605 using an optical CD input, and they said that was way too loud. I told them the sound was not distorted at that level, thus no indication that I should turn the volume down. As a positive, they have sent me replacements for both, at no cost to me.

Just a sound preference note, but the orbs don't seem to be able to recreate voices very well for home theater, specifically at low volume. They sound tin-cannish.
post #254 of 1392
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Originally Posted by johnny0428 View Post

I have the 605, and bought a 7.1 setup of orbs, three Mod 2's across the front, and four Mod 1's across the back, with an NEC subwoofer. In two weeks I have had two separate speakers blow, one half of the Mod2 on each of the left and right fronts on different occasions. I am sending the orbs back since they can't seem to take being driven by the Onk 605. When I called orb about it, they asked at what level I was listening and what the source was, and I told them around 85 on the 0-100 scale of the Onk 605 using an optical CD input, and they said that was way too loud. I told them the sound was not distorted at that level, thus no indication that I should turn the volume down. As a positive, they have sent me replacements for both, at no cost to me.

Just a sound preference note, but the orbs don't seem to be able to recreate voices very well for home theater, specifically at low volume. They sound tin-cannish.


Has anyone else experienced these blowing speaker problems with an onkyo receiver? Or the "tin cannishness" that Johnny described?
post #255 of 1392
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Originally Posted by bigevan23 View Post

Has anyone else experienced these blowing speaker problems with an onkyo receiver? Or the "tin cannishness" that Johnny described?

I do not have an Onkyo, but I do have a high end Sony. I have really cranked up the sound on many movies and have never had a blown speaker. I do not know what "cannishness" is but can only state that the sound I get from my Orbs is very natural and compares favorably with some much larger and more expensive systems I have heard.,
post #256 of 1392
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Originally Posted by bigevan23 View Post

Has anyone else experienced these blowing speaker problems with an onkyo receiver? Or the "tin cannishness" that Johnny described?

I have had Orbs for years and have run them on everything including a 200 wpc McIntosh amplifier and nothings ever happened to them. My personal opinion....they should unplug everything before they get hurt, sounds like user issues to me.
post #257 of 1392
I'm planning on getting the Orbs for my sides and backs for use with an Onkyo 705; my wife wants smallest possible speakers on the walls. My setup will have Def Tech fronts and a Def Tech center. I not sure I'd use Orbs as fronts or center though, cranked music could over drive them and from what I've read dialog can be a problem with the center channel.

Since I do not have Orbs at this time this is all speculation, maybe people that have a full Orb setup could comment.
post #258 of 1392
Since I do not have Orbs at this time this is all speculation, maybe people that have a full Orb setup could comment.[/quote]

No issues for me with fronts or centers. Dialogue from dvd and cable is clear and sharp.
post #259 of 1392
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No issues for me with fronts or centers. Dialogue from dvd and cable is clear and sharp.


The Onkyo's Audyssey can be tricky to set up, maybe that is Johnny's problem.
post #260 of 1392
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Originally Posted by Artslinger View Post

The Onkyo's Audyssey can be tricky to set up, maybe that is Johnny's problem.

The Audyssey setup seems pretty straght forward to me. The issue I have with the sound is probably just personal preference. Crisp and clear sound from a speaker is one thing, but I want to be able to close my eyes and believe the dialog is coming from a person in my room, and not through a small opening in a wall, and that's how the center channel Mod2 sounds to me. I have replaced the center left and right front orbs with Energy Mini RC's and couldn't be happier. The voices are much more realistic specifically at low volumes, with vastly improved stereo imaging.

Johnny
post #261 of 1392
We all hear things a little differently. Crisp and clear to me IS dialogue that sounds like it is coming from someone in the room. In reality, the sound is coming from a speaker not a person. Good luck with your Acoustic Energy setup. In my opinion you took a step backwards.
When you get your replacements from Orb put them on Ebay. I am looking to build another quality AV setup in another room.
post #262 of 1392
Rstand,
FYI, Energy speakers are not "Acoustic Energy" speakers.

Energy is associated with API and Klipsch.

You might want to recant your assessment of taking a step backward going from Orbs to Energy.

Johnny
post #263 of 1392
Sorry I threw in the Acoustic. I am familiar with Energy. They were folded into the Klipsch company last year. No need to recant..This isn't courtroom testimony. I stand by my step backwards statement. As I said, we hear things differently. If you are happy with your RC-Mini's, I am happy for you.
post #264 of 1392
I just bought the Klipsch Quintet III to be paired with my existing system w/ a 10" sub in an 18'x22' room with a cathedral ceiling.

I did this before I heard about the Orb. Should I return for the People's Choice?
post #265 of 1392
Orb has a no question return policy, so you could go ahead and order the Orb setup you want and do a direct comparison, then return whichever one you like less. I compared the Orbs to the several sub/sat systems (including the Klipsch) and like the Orbs better, but you have to decide that for yourself. I will say the Orbs sounded better to me with their sub, so keep that in mind if you are wanting to use your current sub.
post #266 of 1392
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Originally Posted by grizmul View Post

How is the 3.3 working with the orbs and at what crossover? I also own this sub and am looking for possible speakers ie. orb but I am not sure how that nice low sub would work the the orbs. Anyone else have any ideas if the vtf3 MK3 would work with the orbs and what would be a good crossover? The sub is not centered up front but in the back of the listening area sandwiched between the couch and wall of a 11x12 room.

it works great. i use the super eight as a mid bass. bought a low pass cutoff for it. only goes down to about 60 hz, and up to 120hz. 3.3 goes from 70 hz down to teens. sounds great. only problem is the walls constantly crumbling.
post #267 of 1392
Just pulled the trigger on the Mod 4 system. After hearing all the positive comments about these speakers I am looking forward to auditioning them.
post #268 of 1392
Congratulations - I hope you enjoy them as much as I enjoy mine. What's a Mod4 system consist of? I have Mod2's all around but haven't seen a Mod4.
post #269 of 1392
Is it possible to get an objective consensus on how Orb's typically compare to the Gallo's? Particularly the A'diva Ti's, but also the nucleus micro's. Thanks!
post #270 of 1392
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Originally Posted by Mark McIntosh View Post

Congratulations - I hope you enjoy them as much as I enjoy mine. What's a Mod4 system consist of? I have Mod2's all around but haven't seen a Mod4.

The Mod 4 system consists of 3 Mod 4 speakers for the front, 2 Mod 2 speakers for the rears, and the Super 8 Woofer.

http://www.orbaudio.com/index.asp?Pa...TS&Category=18
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