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post #1 of 30
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Im not going all out like some of you guys because money is an issue but is there anything I can do to make the room better sounding and viewing, Im going to buy some ceiling lights but what kind are good that arent going to glare my Lcd tv, and I have a heavy wood door do I need to put special cocking around the frame and if so wheres a good site to see how, I bought some normal sound proof for the walls, Im going to put down some wood floors over the cement should I use special padding of any kind before?
post #2 of 30
For lighting, look and think about where you're going to install them. Anything that will radiate out toward the screen should be avoided or at least switched separately so it can be turned off when viewing.

For better sound, treat the interior of the room. Don't get nuts but go for a balanced scheme that will address the bottom end control, early reflections, and general decay time control.

Bryan
post #3 of 30
As far as the door goes, an exterior door with good weather stipping will give you the best sound isolation. The big box stores have a section with all kinds of weather stripping.

If this is a basement consider one of the subfloor treatments (Dricore, Delta-Fl, Plankton), prior to installing your floor. Carpet will probably make you theater sound better than wood.
post #4 of 30
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Thanks for the info, is it fine to put pot ceiling lights behind my tv? and should i put the rest of the lights in a square shape(4 of them) around the middle of the room or have them on the sides of the room making a cone shape light form down the walls? im going to put them on dimmer switches also
post #5 of 30
Well, a couple of things:

1. Mechanical dimmers are noisy both physically and electrically. Get a good electronic dimmer and avoid low voltage lighting if at all possible.

2. Remember that if you're trying to provide some isolation, when you cut holes in the ceiling for can lights, you're creating lots of large holes for sound to get in and out. If you're serious about isolation, those cans will need to be IC rated and mounted inside sealed MDF boxes up in the ceiling.

Bryan
post #6 of 30
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If I dont use low voltage lighting what else could I be using then?
post #7 of 30
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Also I want to put the wires into the walls for my 5.1, whats the best wires to buy so they will last forever no matter what setup I buy later on?
post #8 of 30
Use standard 110v lighting - you can get them down to 4" in cans and a wide variety of sconces. It will also make your dimmer purchase more reasonable since you won't need a special low voltage transformer.

For the speaker wiring, I'd recommend conduit. That's the best future proofing you can do.

Bryan
post #9 of 30
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So a metal conduit in the walls that my wires can pass through and take out when needed?
post #10 of 30
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Also I see alot of talk about green glue but never what its for, what is it used for?
And for the speakers what type of wire should I buy? And for networking cat5e is fine?
post #11 of 30
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*bumps*
post #12 of 30
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What type of wall socket does satellite tv use? so i have have it ready in my wall before they come to install the main one?
post #13 of 30
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Anyone?
post #14 of 30
Direct Tv uses a Coax line. Use RG6 quad sheild cable if you are laying in the wire. You will need one line per TV from the outside or where ever they mount the junction box/grounding connection.

If you were talking about electrical just a regular socket.
post #15 of 30
What type of speaker wire?
read:
http://www.roger-russell.com/wire/wire.htm
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post #17 of 30
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Originally Posted by dosu23 View Post

So a metal conduit in the walls that my wires can pass through and take out when needed?

PVC is fine if you do conduit.

Lots of guys just put the cable in the walls bare, but use in wall rated speaker wire.

One example:

http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showd...number=100-742
post #18 of 30
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Also I want to put the wires into the walls for my 5.1, whats the best wires to buy so they will last forever no matter what setup I buy later on?

Wire for at least 7.1 if you have the walls open. Some guys do even more in anticipation of future systems.

http://forum.ecoustics.com/bbs/messa...79/129023.html
http://www.dolby.com/promo/HD/trueHD.html
post #19 of 30
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Thanks alot guys for the help. So im going to use 12 awg with pvc and do 7.1 setup just for later on, but for direct tv i just need wires going to my homes main disconnect box because thats where the tv company will install the first one? then i can just split the coax from there to each room?



one more suggestion, my room is aprox 13x21 i wanted nice lighting in the ceiling no wall lamps, would 4 4" cans be good on an electronic dimmer? or do they make 3" cans and still use 110v with a smaller light bulb?
post #20 of 30
I'm not sure what you mean by disconnect box. You can not use any splitters, each TV needs a separate run to the designated area.

This article may answer your pre-wire questions for satellite TV.

http://www.southernsky.com/prewiring.htm
post #21 of 30
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How can I tell what coax cables were installed in my house that are being used with my tv now? because if i get directtv i dont want to install new cables in my other rooms and have them on the outside of my walls.
post #22 of 30
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How i have it now my cable tv goes from my circuit breaker box and splits off, so if i get satellite tv, how would that work, id like it in 3 of my rooms that already have normal cable tv now.
post #23 of 30
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Im getting direct tv next week, and im installing it myself, does the satalite to the reciver use normal coax cable like cable tv? can i use that one from outside at the powerline to my my wall? and if i wanted to have 3 tvs use it i know i need 3 recivers but do i use a splitter from the satalite to all 3 recivers and thats it?

thanks
post #24 of 30
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How i have it now my cable tv goes from my circuit breaker box and splits off, so if i get satellite tv, how would that work, id like it in 3 of my rooms that already have normal cable tv now.

It is my understanding that Satelite TV requires a separate line to the LNB of the satelite dish for each box/TV. It is not as easy as with cable where you simple split the signal. As long as you can get to the non-room end of the cable (in the attic/crawl space/etc) you can probably use the existing cable, but you may need to cut and splice to connect the existing cable to where the satelite is going to be. If you agree to a satelite contract they will come out and set it up (run the wires, etc)
post #25 of 30
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Originally Posted by dosu23 View Post

How can I tell what coax cables were installed in my house that are being used with my tv now? because if i get directtv i dont want to install new cables in my other rooms and have them on the outside of my walls.

I am not an expert, but this is my understanding: If you can read a section of the cable it often has what type it is on the jacket. Most likely if it is cable that was run years ago, it is RG-59. After RG-59 came RG-6. Now quad sheilded RG-6 is considered the best. Each step up is a better wire and able to handle more bandwidth. With more and more HD signals, payperview, interactive menues, etc the cables that can handle higher bandwidth are more popular. You can probably get away with your existing cable, but if really pushed you may have some signal loss issues.
post #26 of 30
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Originally Posted by mbgonzomd View Post

It is my understanding that Satelite TV requires a separate line to the LNB of the satelite dish for each box/TV. It is not as easy as with cable where you simple split the signal. As long as you can get to the non-room end of the cable (in the attic/crawl space/etc) you can probably use the existing cable, but you may need to cut and splice to connect the existing cable to where the satelite is going to be. If you agree to a satelite contract they will come out and set it up (run the wires, etc)

You can split satellite feeds, just not with a splitter - you need a box called a multiswitch - costs more than a splitter, but not that bad, $50 or so - lot of variations based on how many inputs and outputs. I have two TVs, each of which requires two feeds (DirecTivo on one, DirecTV HD equivalent on the other) - I have a 2x8 multiswitch - 2 inputs from the dish to the multiswitch, and then two lines out to each of the TVs, with 4 spare for later on.
post #27 of 30
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So if i want 2-3 tvs with their own satellite, id need 2 recivers and a multiswitch?
post #28 of 30
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Originally Posted by dosu23 View Post

So if i want 2-3 tvs with their own satellite, id need 2 recivers and a multiswitch?

No, most of the satellites today have four outputs.

You can run four lines from the satellite into the house. Each receiver needs its own line directly from the satellite dish.

The mutiswitch is not a spllitter, but simply a way to add more lines to the house.

If you need 8 lines you would need a multiswitch. It doesn't split lines, just give you the ability to add more.

You cannot split a satellite line like a cable or antenna line.

Run one line directly from the satellite to each location you plan to have a satellite receiver. Remember you will want two lines to each place you have a Tivo/DVR.
post #29 of 30
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Ok thanks alot for the help, so im going to buy some cables tomorrow so what would be quality and not too expensive coax from the satellite to the recivers?
post #30 of 30
I would get quad shielded RG-6.
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