Sony E2000 Settings/Tweak Thread - Page 3

So does it look better than 1080i or what?

no, you likely won't notice any difference. most of the time I actually like to feed it 1080i if possible because the scaler in these Sony sets is really good.

Why let another box do a poorer job of downconverting to 720p?

You don't even need an upconverting DVD player. Just feed it 480i through component and you are good to go.

Ok I know this is not an xbox forum but is there a difference when viewing:

1. a standard dvd on the xbox 360
2. a standard dvd on the hd-dvd attachment for xbox 360???

Maybe I am just over thinking this and won't notice any difference I just want the best possible picture for my budget!

no. do not buy the HD add on unless you want to watch HD movies. which is totally worth it if you already have the XBOX.

But if my your DVD player outputs 480p you should do that. It is much crisper in 480p. You are right I noticed NO difference with an upscaling DVD player, it was a Sony $400 version and I returned it promptly. Perhaps a better version would do better but I didn't notice a thing better, these TVs do a pretty darn good job.

I hope you are not saying to feed the E2000 480i from a dvd player and let the tv up convert to 720p. If so you need to get a clue and read some articles on why its better for an up convert dvd player to do the work and feed the tv it's native resolution.

I would never send a tv a 480i signal from a dvd player unless it was my only option.

The tv's resolution is 720p, if you are going to have a upscaling dvd player send something to the E2000 it should be 720p.

If you have a dvr that offers pass through for HD programming, use the pass through.

keep believing the hype....or go try it yourself.

a lot of players do a terrible job of converting to 480p. An example is the Panny S52.

your TV has a built in scaler. These Sony's have very very good ones.

As long as you can use component or HDMI 480i, it will look almost the exact same as 720p/1080i.

I have tried this on multiple players, including the Sony 75 and the Tosiba HD-A2, both very good up converters.

It just doesn't matter.

Elway,
Not necessarily on the 720p either.

They Sony is built to scale everything to 720p. It's main function is moving 1080i (for most HD content) to 720p.

Why let a crappy $100 DVD player scale it to 720p first?

I have yet to find anything that looked better scaled to 720p. 1080i is either better, or the exact same.

I've tried setting the 360 at 720p and 1080i. I couldn't see a difference. I selected 720p since it's the TVs native resolution.

Exactly 1080i looks the same as 720p to me, so why would you send anything other than 720p to the tv, its just another conversion.

And I personally feel you put too much stock in the E2000, my Sony upconvert dvd player does a way better job. The PQ when I send 480i to the tv from the upconvert compared to 720p from the upconvert is a large difference.

And if you really want to blow away the tv's scaler, buy an oppo 971 for $200.

"buy an oppo 971 for $200."


hahahaha. Man, you just regurtitate everything you read, don't you? Do you even own the Oppo you are pimping?

I bought an HD-A2, which does BETTER scaling then the Oppo (according to the experts on here).

And yet it looks the same as the cheap panny, the Sony, or even my old XBOX with SD material.

Don't you mean regurgitate?

I'm not going to continue this any further because it's getting off topic being this is a tweak thread.

I personally feel after comparing my Sony 75H side by side at 480P to my panny dvd 480p, and flipping between 480i, 720p, and 1080i on the upconvert, that 720p does produce a better dvd PQ than anything else I own.

And no, I do not own an oppo 971 but have read all the web reviews and the comments on this site and I feel its the best upconverting player under $200. Had I known about it sooner I would have purchased it over the 75H.

And unless you have not noticed, some dvds look good and some do not. Find one that has a good PQ and watch it at 720 p. The turn around and watch say an hour of it immediately at 480i and see what you think.

Alright, the two of you need to go to timeout...

But to respond:
1st: I have a non-progressive DVD player, and a Sony 75h. Passing 480i through the DVD player vs. upscaled 720p on the sony 75h is a lower quality picture. The upconverting player does work, and is better than the 480i.... Its not very noticeable at my 11' viewing distance, but is very noticeable at around 6'.

2nd: I notice zero difference between 1080i and 720p on my HD-DVR, and notice zero difference in the upconverting player between 1080i and 720p. So i default to 720p. However, the argument about one more conversion while true, probably makes little or no differnce at all.

These user menu items are about the same as I came up with, but I'm getting a little too much green tint in my skin tones. Changing the hue doesn't do what I want. Skin tone seems to be the only problem area with green.

I'm afraid to go into the service menu without knowing what the abbreviations mean. I can't even decipher the ones posted above, lol.

Can anyone help with what I should adjust to get the green down in the skin tones and/or what the abbreviations mean?

Thanks,
Rob

I just got my 50E2000 today. Very happy. I am using HDMI from Comcast DVR box.

Everything look great in HD. But my Speed Channel looks pretty bad. It's an SD channel but it tends to pixilate quite a bit. I was watching some racing this afternoon and the colors seemed too bright. Also my analog channels look pretty bad.

Is this typical? This is my first HD set.

Should I get the Avia DVD? I have an old Sony DVD player.

Also are there any basic tweaks that you can remommend that will be better than the factory?

Thanks.

1. Change it to Standard from Vivid. Vivid is meant to catch your eye in a showroom but not to watch at home.

2. Buy a calibration disk (Avia, DVE, Monster) -- all available on line.

3. Calibrate using the disk.

4. Adjust the settings for your comcast box by eye. The best settings for the DVD player and the Comcast box are probably not going to be the same.

5. Try running S-video from your comcast box for SD. Some say this helps SD.

Number 1 is the most important and quickest thing you can do.

I have a Comcast box and use the HDMI on my 46" and SD looks fine. No worse or better than it did on my 42" plasma.

I used the Aria to calibrate and the only difference in settings from my dvd player to my DVR is I have the gamma on medium for dvd's.

I took it off of vivid immediately. I think I have it tweaked to where I am pretty happy with it. The PQ is just amazing. This is my first HD set and I am still in awe at how great this thing looks. Also I went from a 27" to a 50" so I am getting a double whammy. I watched a race on Fox HD last night and I was just floored at how great everything looked. I have really been missing out up until now. When in it comes to HD there are people who know and people who don't. I am happy to be part of the group that knows how awesome this technology really is.

Some of my SD channels are OK and some are terrible. I think I am going to have Comcast come out this week and check some things out. Also, I think I need to have the coax lines in my walls upgraded. They appear to be the older type. I just want to make sure I am getting the best signal I can get to the TV. I want to be done tweaking so I can put the Sony remote away.

Thanks for the feedback. It is appreciated.

Question...I am interested to know if anyone has done any greyscale work on these sets?Any way to possibly get a break down of what settings are used to adjust things like red gain,red drive...etc(do these sets even have these adjustments?) I have calibrated crt rptv's but this is a first with lcd.

Cheers!

I just got the 42e2000 and am quite pleased with it, so here is a tip that can help you save money...

I don't subscribe to cable but have the coaxial cable (from when I was a subscriber). I plugged it into the tv and ran the auto channel detect... it found over 20 digital cable channels, most of them were pay per view or video on demand. So it will only show a movie if someone else ordered it (I live in an apartment so not sure if it only works in an apartment complex) But it also found local HD channels (saved money by not needing to buy an antenna)

Some might consider this stealing. I would.

Well,

PPV is not free to watch, VOD cannot be accessed without a box soooo, and HD locals are free anyways.

BTW, what does all this have to do with a tv tweaks thread?

Has anyone done greyscale on these sets?The service manual is not very forthcoming on what the items in the service menu are for greyscale adjustments...anyone?

Hi, I've got a question about the 50E2000.

I read everywhere in this forum that in order to access the service menu you have to push:

DISPLAY -> 5 -> VOLUME UP -> POWER.

I downloaded the service manual, it says so in there too. But you need to have the RM-YD010 remote.

I purchased the TV in Greece and the remote I have is the RM-ED007.

Where is the DISPLAY button? I think it might be the one with the i+ / ? symbols on it but when i press the combination nothing happens...

Any clue anyone?

anyone yet?

I have noticed (on the 360 at least) that 1080i actually looks better than 720 on REALLY subtle details... like jaggies... despite the TV's native 720p resolution. This really doesn't make any sense to me.


Am I the only one that notices lines running through solid-colored stuff?

I havnt tried setting mine to 1080i on my 360 yet. I'll try later to see if I get the same result.

Well, I've had the TV for about 3 months now and my problem with green skin tones is gone now. I didn't do anything, so maybe it was a break-in thing.

Rob

Anyone know any cons to using High iris instead of auto? Seems to help with brightness without washing out colors like gamma. I've seen where some guys are using gamma on high and to me that makes the skin tones look funky. I'm on iris High with Gamma off and it looks pretty good so far.