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post #31 of 56
12/19/06 at 1:47pm
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Originally Posted by Alex Atkin UK View Post

Im puzzled, if you have both then why does it matter which format wins?

This is the argument I keep saying to people. If both formats fail they arent going to suddenly stop playing (although of course there is the possibility down the line of the hardware breaking) so I do not see any reason to NOT buy whatever movies you want to see in HD.

The odd are that down the line there will still be plenty of players available even for a failed format and if you bought both then clearly cost is not the issue. Buy whichever is best now, if you are waiting for tomorrow then you will have a LONG wait.

Technology improves every day, you just have to deal with that!

Because I don't want to spend $30 a title on a losing (dead) format??? As it is, I have a game console and an upconverting DVD player depending on which or both formats failing.

However, I don't want to waste money on movies like those laser disk people. (sadly thinking about my SACD and DVD-A investments) So for now I'll rent, I really don't see what's not absolutely logical about that.
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post #32 of 56
12/19/06 at 2:12pm
if BD only had some alluring titles. Seriously, I'd buy a PS3 if it had alluring games. Hardware without useful software is just a waste. I know, it'll come. When FFXIII comes, I'll bite.

Clearly BD or HD won't be dying for a year or two or three so investing in both is something we'll all have to inevitably do.
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post #33 of 56
12/19/06 at 4:32pm
If not a ton changes in the next 6 months and the PS3 gets a few AAA's games out there. I can see dallying up for the $500 version and be done with it. I'm liking the synergy/value of game/player I suppose, as neither game player used for movies has horrible PQ. They didn't disappoint there which was a concern to many.
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post #34 of 56
12/19/06 at 4:38pm
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Originally Posted by Forceflow View Post

if BD only had some alluring titles. Seriously, I'd buy a PS3 if it had alluring games. Hardware without useful software is just a waste. I know, it'll come. When FFXIII comes, I'll bite.

Clearly BD or HD won't be dying for a year or two or three so investing in both is something we'll all have to inevitably do.

So your saying that Terminator 2, Spiderman 2, Pirates of the carribean, and on and on are not alluring titles?? I have blue ray and I think that many of the titles they have are great, but I also want to get my hands on Rundown and a couple of other HD titles, too bad there is a format war, we could all be at peace and just reviewing the great quality of pictures rather then bickering about which format will win or lose
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post #35 of 56
12/19/06 at 4:45pm
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So your saying that Terminator 2, Spiderman 2, Pirates of the carribean, and on and on are not alluring titles??

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Spider-Man 2 and Pirates of the Carribean are not available titles.
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post #36 of 56
12/19/06 at 4:50pm
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Originally Posted by braves_fan3 View Post

I notice some saying The Wild and Ice Age 2 on BR look great. Since they are both animated wouldn't that cause some false impressions? I mean, since they're animated both are basically flat with no depth, so that negates one of the advantages of high definition.

They're animated in three-dimensions (texturization and shading give them depth). 3D animation was made for hi-def, though I don't necessarily need to watch (flat) 2D cartoons in HD.
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post #37 of 56
12/19/06 at 5:09pm
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Originally Posted by seanbryan View Post

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Spider-Man 2 and Pirates of the Carribean are not available titles.

Too true. I dunno where Inca is getting his info, but he's been watching upconverts of those movies (I guess). Perhaps it looks great on his BD player, but that just begs the question about how the actual BD discs he's been viewing have been (like upconvert is not a compliment).
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post #38 of 56
12/19/06 at 5:36pm
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Originally Posted by Forceflow View Post

Too true. I dunno where Inca is getting his info, but he's been watching upconverts of those movies (I guess). Perhaps it looks great on his BD player, but that just begs the question about how the actual BD discs he's been viewing have been (like upconvert is not a compliment).

Ahahah, of course I wasn't talking about titles available out now, but coming soon. There are a few on both that I would like to have, and unfortunatley I don't have the finances to purchase a HDA2 on top of the PS3. Anyways I think that they both have enticing titles.
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post #39 of 56
12/19/06 at 6:23pm
I was fortunate enough to get a PS3 for retail at GameStop. My take on Blu-ray is that it's very rushed. The early titles are underwhelming. The interactivity we're used to on HD-DVD (IME, U-Control, etc) isn't ready on Blu-ray. However, a title like Black Hawk Down shows that Blu-ray can deliver an experience on par with reference HD-DVDs. While I'm still rooting for HD-DVD to win or maintain parity because they are the more consumer friendly format, I'm happy to be able to experience all high-definition discs while I'm waiting.
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post #40 of 56
12/19/06 at 6:46pm
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Originally Posted by inca View Post

Ahahah, of course I wasn't talking about titles available out now, but coming soon.

You lie. Those titles have no release dates and Sony (per Paidgeek's comments) have no plans to release or remaster, or have a HD disc out any time in the near future. Kindly get your facts straight and only post facts.
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post #41 of 56
12/19/06 at 6:48pm
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Originally Posted by rezzy View Post

They're animated in three-dimensions (texturization and shading give them depth). 3D animation was made for hi-def, though I don't necessarily need to watch (flat) 2D cartoons in HD.

Everything looks much better in HD. Don't fool yourself into thinking that old disney movies or anime won't look great in HD. It'll be much sharper. More details. MORE COLORS. All in all a much better experience.
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post #42 of 56
12/19/06 at 6:54pm
Its NOT fair for Blu ray if you are comparing one of the reference titles from D-Theater or Tier 1 PQ of HD DVD.

Anyways you are not alone in what you see. Thats why HD DVD is selling more.

Just check out the Tier 1 PQ for Blu ray and rent them. I'm sure the PQ will be much better than the TURD Telladega Knights.
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post #43 of 56
12/19/06 at 7:11pm
I just bought a copy of Kung Fu Hustle for BR and it looks very good.
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post #44 of 56
12/20/06 at 12:04am
I had simular results as the OP. I have seen every tier 1 BD released and I still believe that HD-DVD is the PQ King. Not saying that Blu-Ray looks bad, it does not. I just think HD-DVD looks better ATM.
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post #45 of 56
12/20/06 at 12:09am
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Originally Posted by Greg T View Post

I did all of these tests on my tuned WS65813 9" gunned Mitsubishi TV. I moved my chair about 6 feet from the screen for all of my tests.

I have the same TV. It rocks!

One of the best RP pictures I've ever seen.......

Cliff
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post #46 of 56
12/20/06 at 12:11pm
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Originally Posted by Greg T View Post

I bought an HD-A1 back in June and really loved it from day one. So far only collected a few titles. Serenity, Happy Gilmore, Troy, Batman Returns, MI-3, Superman Returns and King Kong.
On to My PS3 experience. Thanks to Walmart's 90 day return policy I'll have a PS3 for at least 3 months (I've had it for about two weeks). The unit came with Taladaga nights (way off color and contrast, bad first experience). I'm a Netflix Member, so I've rented 3 Blu-Ray titles. Ice Age 2: very good picture and the 1.5 mbps DTS track really rocks. Also rented the devil wears prada, very good picture and sound but the picture looked slightly fuzzy compared to most HD-DVD titles. The last rental was Kingdon of Heaven (reference title according to the blu ray forum). Very good picture and the full rate DTS track really rocked, but again the picture looked slightly fuzzy compared to HD-DVD.
I only own one D-Theater title right now X-Men, so I put that in since I was doing a compare of formats. I remember thinking this title was incredibly clean and fuzz free. I saw the fuzz on my X-men D-theater.
I did all of these tests on my tuned WS65813 9" gunned Mitsubishi TV. I moved my chair about 6 feet from the screen for all of my tests.
For HD-DVD I put in King Kong and Super Man Returns. At Six feet King Kong really sucked me in and had non of the fuzziness I'm seeing with Mpeg2.

HD-DVD and PS3 hooked up via component and HDMI/DVI

D-Theater 30K hooked up via firewire


After doing this compare, I sure hope VC-1 succeeds. Maybe it's my setup or the PS3, but KOH does not compare to the best of HD-DVD.


You're absolutely 100% right in your comparison analysis. I own both Blu-Ray and HD DVD and have seen KOH. Compared to the best of HD DVD it looks like a POS.
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post #47 of 56
12/20/06 at 12:12pm
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Originally Posted by MichaelZ View Post

Don't you know what forum you are in? Take that crap and I do mean crap, to the BR forum. This forum is about HD-DVD not blow-ray.


Actually the correct term is Blur-Ray.
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post #48 of 56
12/20/06 at 2:25pm
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Originally Posted by Forceflow View Post

Everything looks much better in HD. Don't fool yourself into thinking that old disney movies or anime won't look great in HD. It'll be much sharper. More details. MORE COLORS. All in all a much better experience.

Probably, but the condition of the original source can play a big factor. I just saw the animated How the Grinch Stole Christmas, and it looked terrible in spite of the pretty colors. I'd rather watch this particular one in standard-def.
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post #49 of 56
12/20/06 at 9:07pm
I agree, KoH wasnt that great visually, but the sound was awesome!
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post #50 of 56
1/8/07 at 2:34am
koh looks phenomenal
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post #51 of 56
1/8/07 at 5:43am
Blu-ray is not the issue here. Its the studios!

Universal and Warner probably take better care of their transfers over the Blu-ray studios. If compare a Warner Blu-ray title to a HD-DVD they are identical in terms of picture quality and it has been said all over by non-biased sites like highdefdigest.com

When Universal support Blu-ray in 2008, King Kong BD will look just as good on you're existing equipment!
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post #52 of 56
1/8/07 at 5:49am
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Originally Posted by DVD_sanchez View Post


When Universal support Blu-ray in 2008??

Wha, where did this come from?? I have both and think both are wonderful, but universal support of blu-ray?
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post #53 of 56
1/8/07 at 5:50am
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Originally Posted by DVD_sanchez View Post

Blu-ray is not the issue here. Its the studios!

Universal and Warner probably take better care of their transfers over the Blu-ray studios. If compare a Warner Blu-ray title to a HD-DVD they are identical in terms of picture quality and it has been said all over by non-biased sites like highdefdigest.com

When Universal support Blu-ray in 2008, King Kong BD will look just as good on you're existing equipment!


It's not the format it is the Player,Transfer, Encoding, Firmware and the Studios.

Yikes The Nile is not only a river in Egypt
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post #54 of 56
1/8/07 at 6:22am
I have had HD sine the japanese MUSE system, and bought in to Dtheater(almost all tapes), HD-DVD since the start and the PS3 since the start.

I have about 30 HD-DVD titles and 15 BR titles. My viewing have been done on 9" crt projectors, the Sony Ruby and the Mitsubishi HC5000.

I cant understand all the people that are claiming that they see all that difference between the formats, especially thoose who are comparing different movies up against each other.

To me both HD-DVD and BR are stellar, with none that excels over the other.

After seeing Pearl Harbour in BR and The Deer Hunter in HD-DVD I couldnt be more happy! Keep them comming.
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post #55 of 56
1/8/07 at 6:42am
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Originally Posted by Per Johnny View Post


I cant understand all the people that are claiming that they see all that difference between the formats, especially thoose who are comparing different movies up against each other.


This is the issue that I have when I see people comparing PQ between the two formats.
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post #56 of 56
1/8/07 at 8:02am
I'm kinda the reverse, I bought an A1 in July and bought a 360 two weeks ago...probably nab the HD DVD add-on sometime. No interest in the PS3 no matter what the price.
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