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post #1 of 76
12/19/06 at 12:31pm
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Is it true that the PS3 has be controled by bluetooth? I am intersted in controlling the Blueray drive for my hometheater with my Harmony. Is there a solution for this?
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post #2 of 76
12/19/06 at 12:36pm
Yes, it is bluetooth. I don't know a lot about the Harmony remotes, but I don't recall the ability to control using BT signal. The only solution that I am aware of is to buy the aftermarket remote offered by Sony. There are several threads already talking about the remote that would come up in a search of this forum

Here is one such thread (there are others)

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...ghlight=remote

Ron
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post #3 of 76
12/19/06 at 1:47pm
It seems like some enterprising company could make a IR-to-Bluetooth adapter for this. It might not be super cheap, but its far from impossible.
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post #4 of 76
12/19/06 at 2:26pm
Hi,

I haven't tried it yet because my PS3 is under the tree, but others have had good luck using the PS2 remote controls that come with IR receivers and then combining that with the radio shack PS2 to USB adapter. I picked up the RS ps2 to USB adapter and a PS2 remote with IR receiver (some don't come with the IR receiver so watch out.) And I told my Harmony I have a ps2. From what I've read it should work once the Blu-Ray player is launched. You can read up about it in the playstation forum here.

-Brian
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post #5 of 76
12/21/06 at 1:43am
I was fooling around with my Harmony 880 remote and noticed there is a profile for the PS3 from Logitech so I took my USB IR receiver for my MCE remote control and plugged it into the PS3 USB port. Unfortunately, although the light was blinking on the USB IR receiver, it had no effect on my PS3

Boy I can't believe it is taking so long for Sony to release their remote control.
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post #6 of 76
12/21/06 at 3:39am
email Logitech tech support and ask. Perhaps there is a specific brand of USB IR that they work with.
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post #7 of 76
12/21/06 at 3:42am
On a side note, the PS3 remote is available. I picked one up last night at EB
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post #8 of 76
12/21/06 at 4:03am
^ Not in Toronto. EB did not have one yesterday. The USB IR is useful for me because of the harmony.
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post #9 of 76
12/22/06 at 5:55pm
Neo - Try calling some other Gamestops and EBGames in your area. There are about 5 of those stores in my area, but only one of them had the PS3 remote. Good luck!
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post #10 of 76
12/22/06 at 6:18pm
I just don't understand Sony they can never make anything easy. Look at the 360 it is IR and you can program the 360 with your harmony. I have an 880 with the 360 programmed and it works great. I am not bashing Sony but geez could they give what the consumer wants. Someone here said that BT is Worldwide and I agree but it is better used for PDA's Cell Phones etc not for a remote control for an entertainment console JMO.

Rob
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post #11 of 76
12/22/06 at 6:48pm
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Originally Posted by ndtriathlete View Post

Neo - Try calling some other Gamestops and EBGames in your area. There are about 5 of those stores in my area, but only one of them had the PS3 remote. Good luck!

Near where I live, they said they don't have them yet, these days, there's long lineups (xmas shopping) and often the phone just rings and rings - especially this week.

My preference is the USB-IR as I like my harmony remotes. The wireless kbd works too (F2=floating-menu) and you absolutely need one for web browsing.
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post #12 of 76
12/23/06 at 2:10pm
I did my homework. Here are the Sony original parts:

97076 The remote and the receiver, best here:

http://www.jr.com/JRProductPage.proc...feed.PS2+97076

SCPH-10150 The remote control itself without the IR receiver

SCPH-10160 The IR receiver


AVOID the SCPH-10420 Sony PS2 remotes at EB, Walmart, and Kmart, these do not include the receiver.

I already have the RS adapter.

I kindly suggest you modify your original post to reflect this, otherwise a lot of folks will end up holding the remote in one hand and the PS2 USB adapter in the other hand wondering what to do.

The source of this confusion is that after 2003 PS2s started sporting an IR input, eliminating the need for the receiver.
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post #13 of 76
12/23/06 at 4:35pm
The fact is that Sony is good for doing this sort of thing. I have a Sony HC3 Hi def camcorder... it's a nice machine, but the accessory shoe is not the standard size that you would see on ANY other cam. It was purposefully built smaller so that you could only use Sony accessories.... nice cam.... but kind of a cheap thing to do!
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post #14 of 76
12/24/06 at 8:19am
Here's the thing - I applaud Sony for having the foresight to use Bluetooth rather than IR as a remote control standard for PS3.

Sony took a very forward-thinking approach with this box. Its literally a piece of hardware from the future, landed into my living room with a $300+ Sony incentive.

Bluetooth IS a better system for remote control of home theater, period. PS3 seems to be about putting together a future-proof box that will last for 5-10 years. Bluetooth, Blu ray drive, HDMI 1.3, soft-touch control buttons, slot-loading drive, ultra-quiet fans, etc. Everything has been done without cutting corners.

Infrared is dead. Sony is showing the industry the way forward. With bluetooth we can start controlling our HT gear directly from our PCs, or our cell phones. We can hide our gear behind an opaque surface. We could place our gear at the rear of our theaters. We could hit our projector remote codes without holding an IR remote like a circus performer.

Don't slam Sony for ignoring "what's normal" and trying to give us "what's better".
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post #15 of 76
12/24/06 at 8:35am
Without cutting corners? Are you kidding?
If Sony included an IR port, a remote control, an HDMI cable, upscaling abilities, etc... I might agree.
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post #16 of 76
12/24/06 at 8:41am
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Originally Posted by Innerloop View Post

Bluetooth IS a better system for remote control of home theater, period. PS3 seems to be about putting together a future-proof box that will last for 5-10 years. Bluetooth, Blu ray drive, HDMI 1.3, soft-touch control buttons, slot-loading drive, ultra-quiet fans, etc. Everything has been done without cutting corners.

Infrared is dead. Sony is showing the industry the way forward. With bluetooth we can start controlling our HT gear directly from our PCs, or our cell phones. We can hide our gear behind an opaque surface. We could place our gear at the rear of our theaters. We could hit our projector remote codes without holding an IR remote like a circus performer.

Don't slam Sony for ignoring "what's normal" and trying to give us "what's better".

There are no universal remote controls which currently support BlueTooth. There are no other CE devices that use BlueTooth for remote control. While BT may be better in theory, in the real world HT components need to support IR.
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post #17 of 76
12/24/06 at 10:34pm
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Originally Posted by Neo1965 View Post

I think he meant the PS3 controllers and remotes come with rechargable batteries charged by USB, so can't take disposable AAs.

Actually, the optional remote control does take disposable AAs, but you can also use rechargeable NiMH batteries if you want.
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post #18 of 76
12/25/06 at 8:14am
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Originally Posted by ADGrant View Post

There are no universal remote controls which currently support BlueTooth. There are no other CE devices that use BlueTooth for remote control. While BT may be better in theory, in the real world HT components need to support IR.

Yeah, but there are not HT components right now that support HDMI 1.3 either, but they still included it on the box because its the way of the future. Maybe what we're seeing is a sign of where Sony is going in the future in terms of HT gear, and a couple years from now when we have Bluetooth-controlled HT gear with 2-way communication between the remote & components all of which can work without line-of-sight on inside cabinetry, won't we be a lot better off?

PS3 is a great way to "push" new technology to a massive number of people in a way that few other pieces of hardware can. If PS3 takes off it will push not only the adoption of Blu Ray, but also the adoption of HDMI, BT remotes, etc.
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post #19 of 76
12/25/06 at 8:58am
Keep on topic.
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post #20 of 76
12/26/06 at 8:32am
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Originally Posted by Innerloop View Post

Here's the thing - I applaud Sony for having the foresight to use Bluetooth rather than IR as a remote control standard for PS3.

Sony took a very forward-thinking approach with this box. Its literally a piece of hardware from the future, landed into my living room with a $300+ Sony incentive.

Bluetooth IS a better system for remote control of home theater, period. PS3 seems to be about putting together a future-proof box that will last for 5-10 years. Bluetooth, Blu ray drive, HDMI 1.3, soft-touch control buttons, slot-loading drive, ultra-quiet fans, etc. Everything has been done without cutting corners.

Infrared is dead. Sony is showing the industry the way forward. With bluetooth we can start controlling our HT gear directly from our PCs, or our cell phones. We can hide our gear behind an opaque surface. We could place our gear at the rear of our theaters. We could hit our projector remote codes without holding an IR remote like a circus performer.

Don't slam Sony for ignoring "what's normal" and trying to give us "what's better".

I have a Pronto Touch Screen and Harmony remote (so I'd be as ticked off as anybody, but I'm not).

I totally agree with comments above. Need to move forward sometime. So what it's not backwards compatible. If it was, nobody would try the BlueTooth remote. I'm convinced bluetooth is the future. It's everyone else that needs to catch up !!!

I keep pointing the bluetooth remote at the PS3 :-)

If you want to stay in the past buy an XBOX with Component and IR.

It will take some time for others to recognize bluetooth is a great choice for home entertainment remotes. I have many bluetooth devices and Sony's implementation is the cleanest smoothest I've seen.

Kudo's to Sony.
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post #21 of 76
12/26/06 at 3:27pm
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Without cutting corners? Are you kidding?
If Sony included an IR port, a remote control, an HDMI cable, upscaling abilities, etc... I might agree.

1. IR port: possibly arguable, but Blue Tooth is better for this sort of thing.
2. Remote and HDMI cable: I have drawers full of cables etc. that came with things that I bought. I would rather pay less and not have these things included.
The PS3 is already a huge bargain.
3. Upscaling capabilities for the PS3 will come with an upgrade we are told.
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post #22 of 76
12/26/06 at 7:54pm
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Originally Posted by Innerloop View Post

Yeah, but there are not HT components right now that support HDMI 1.3 either, but they still included it on the box because its the way of the future. Maybe what we're seeing is a sign of where Sony is going in the future in terms of HT gear, and a couple years from now when we have Bluetooth-controlled HT gear with 2-way communication between the remote & components all of which can work without line-of-sight on inside cabinetry, won't we be a lot better off?

PS3 is a great way to "push" new technology to a massive number of people in a way that few other pieces of hardware can. If PS3 takes off it will push not only the adoption of Blu Ray, but also the adoption of HDMI, BT remotes, etc.

What if the PS3 only supported HDMI 1.3? As it is it supports 1.2 and 1.1 so it is compatible with existing technology.

Would of it been that big of a deal to include an IR port? Cost to Sony is what a couple pennies for the actual IR port and maybe a dollar for integration.
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post #23 of 76
12/26/06 at 8:08pm
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Originally Posted by rlsmith View Post

1. IR port: possibly arguable, but Blue Tooth is better for this sort of thing.
2. Remote and HDMI cable: I have drawers full of cables etc. that came with things that I bought. I would rather pay less and not have these things included.
The PS3 is already a huge bargain.
3. Upscaling capabilities for the PS3 will come with an upgrade we are told.

My point is if they could have spent the extra $10 to include IR port, HDMI cable, remote and upscaling abilities and make this player a much better deal, but it's almost as if Sony purposely went out of their way to NOT make this device a great blu-ray player.
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post #24 of 76
1/2/07 at 11:34pm
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Originally Posted by bobpaule View Post

I did my homework. Here are the Sony original parts:

97076 The remote and the receiver, best here:

http://www.jr.com/JRProductPage.proc...feed.PS2+97076

SCPH-10150 The remote control itself without the IR receiver

SCPH-10160 The IR receiver

The above link at J&R is the wrong item. I ordered one and they sent me the unit without the IR receiver.

They don't appear to sell the remote with receiver anymore. Does anyone else have a source of these remotes with the IR receiver?
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post #25 of 76
1/3/07 at 10:41am
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Originally Posted by bfdtv View Post

The above link at J&R is the wrong item. I ordered one and they sent me the unit without the IR receiver.

They don't appear to sell the remote with receiver anymore. Does anyone else have a source of these remotes with the IR receiver?

Just so you know these remotes will only work when the movie is actually playing. You can't turn the unit on and off which might negate it's use if you want to integrate with a universal remote.
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post #26 of 76
1/3/07 at 11:37pm
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Originally Posted by jayselle View Post

Just so you know these remotes will only work when the movie is actually playing. You can't turn the unit on and off which might negate it's use if you want to integrate with a universal remote.

Not really - because you still have to physically put the disc in! (Which turns the unit on and auto boots the DVD)

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post #27 of 76
1/3/07 at 11:47pm
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Originally Posted by jayselle View Post

Just so you know these remotes will only work when the movie is actually playing. You can't turn the unit on and off which might negate it's use if you want to integrate with a universal remote.

If you were talking about the PS3 BT remote, you are wrong - my PS3 remote does turn the PS3 on/off by pressing the playstation button, same as Sixaxis controllers.
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post #28 of 76
1/4/07 at 3:42am
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Originally Posted by TauRus View Post

If you were talking about the PS3 BT remote, you are wrong - my PS3 remote does turn the PS3 on/off by pressing the playstation button, same as Sixaxis controllers.

I don't think this discussion was about the BT remote, it was about configuring the PS3 so that it could be controlled via IR remote so that other IR remote controls could be used (such as the Logitech Harmony, the Philips Pronto universal devices etc.)

Doing so requires a PS2 IR receiver and a PS2 to USB adapter - which then allows a PS2 DVD remote control OR a universal remote pretending to be a PS2 DVD remote control - to control the PS3. However this only works when the PS3 is in BD replay mode - and doesn't allow remote power on and off functionality.

That said, given that you have to physically put a disc into the PS3 to play it, power on and off functionality may not be a total deal breaker for some.
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post #29 of 76
7/19/07 at 1:34pm
See "Playstation 3 Blu Wave Remote" by Nyko at Amazon. Customer review looks like it's a winner to bridge IR to BT on PS3. Power on and off isn't going to happen with IR.
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post #30 of 76
1/7/08 at 3:21pm
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Originally Posted by spblat View Post

See "Playstation 3 Blu Wave Remote" by Nyko at Amazon. Customer review looks like it's a winner to bridge IR to BT on PS3. Power on and off isn't going to happen with IR.

really powering on/off over IR would be possible if sony would power the USB ports while in stand-by, i know there is some demand for this to charge controllers while the system is off
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