cam6.6t help

Lou,

I don't see how you'll be able to use the system you have without the ability to pull speaker wires.

The wiring you have in place will support an A-Bus audio system. A-Bus is not nearly as capable as teh CAM6.6 you have.

It's almost always possible to run wires... depending on construction & access, it can be very expensive though.

Sorry, I don't have a solution for you...

Paul

You should definitely be able to pull wire. Even if you don't have access to the ceiling.

First you have to determine which way your ceiling joists run. If they run perpendicular to the wall with the keypad, then it should be easy to run wire up the wall and out over the ceiling. If the speakers aren't in line with the keypad, you could always run the wire up the wall by the keypad, then out back into the room at the ceiling and then run it around the room to you reach the point where the speakers are. Then it's back into the wall and up over the ceiling drywall. You can hide the wires at the top of the wall with crown moulding.

Use the same process of running the speaker wires inside the wall to the top of the wall, then out of the wall and around the room if your joists run parallel to the keypads. Again, hide the wires with crown molding.

You'll have the expense of the crown molding, but it is doable, and the crown molding will make the house look better anyway.

Basically there is always a way to do it. It just takes some thought and money to get it done.

Brian,

It sounds like Lou already has speaker wires from the keypad location to the speakers, so its the speaker wire from the keypad to the CAM6.6 that he needs to intall.

If he has a basement/crawlspace or attic access this shouldn't bee too difficult for anyone with the right tools. If however the home is built on slab with vaulted ceilings (no attic) then this becomes quite a bit more difficult and costly.

Cheers,
Paul

You're right. I simply jumped the gun and suggested a solution without reading the original post close enough (I think my wife can relate to this tendency in me ).

That certainly does make the issue much harder. Running it around a single room is pretty straight forward. Trying to get it to other parts of the house without ripping holes everywhere is a whole other thing.

It is also very specific to the structure. So I'll stop speculating how to do it, because without seeing the actual location, there is no good solution.

Sorry for the useless information...

Hi Brian,

Not useless information... we just don't know enough yet from Lou about his house construction to provide much guidance.

He did mention that he cannot rewire, but we don't know the reason?

Here in CA basements are non-existant and many homes have vaulted ceilings and walls of glass which makes retrofitting wires very challenging and expensive. There is almosta always a was to get wire from point A to point B, it's just a matter of if it's cost effective to do it.

Let's see if Lou replies... maybe we can still help out.

Cheers,
Paul

Since there is cat5 from the CAM location to the kepads, he could use that cat5 wire as a pull string to pull speaker wire and a new cat5 wire. This assumes that the cat5 wire is not stapled along the run. Then splice the new speaker wire to the existing speaker wire from the keypad location out to the speakers.

if you plan to control the russ with rs-232 then you could twist 4 of the cat 5 leads together for +, 4 for -, splice to speaker wire, call it a day.

Ever heard of voltage drop or resistance? 24 AWG x 4 is probably ~ 25 AWG

Your amp will have to work really, really hard to make this work, plus you will also lose the functionality of the keypads. (ie. what would be the point?)

Find a way to run speaker wire to the keypad locations. I can't understand why any installer would only run Cat 5 to the keypads in the first place. Yes, I understand this is all A-Bus requires, but that system is lacking and it is hard to impossible to re-wire for a better system in the future...

Carl

Four 24 AWG wires equal about one 18 AWG wire.