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Good to know. I'm going to be purchasing the same setup next month!

I was wondering if any of you Aperion owners could compare the sound to the Energy Take 5.2 Series. I am thinking of upgrading since I moved to a new house and have a bigger room to fill. The Aperions get some great reviews, but I would really like to know if I'll get more out of them than my current setup. Thanks!

If you're in Southern California, the Los Angeles and Orange County Audio Society is having an Aperion Audio event on Sunday 7/22/07 from 1-4pm.

2-channel and multi-channel demos. Check it out:

http://www.laocaudiosociety.com/message.html

As always: free admission, free parking, free food.

Sanjay

does anyone have any comments on the intimus 422 LR satellite speaker? it's at the same price point as the athena LS50 so I'm wondering how they compare as surround duty.

I have the 422's and they work great.

Hello all. Just purchased the 533-PT, 532-LR and 533-VAC combination to go with the Onkyo TX-SR705, whcih should arrive on Friday. Glad to hear everyone is basically happy with their set ups. I'm moving my current system from the family room to the basement, which I just recently completed finishing off, and need a replacement setup. So, these components coupled with a new 52" LCD (LX177 maybe?) should do pretty well I hope.

Pulled the trigger!
I just ordered two 533-T and a 533-VAC, which I'm pairing with the Onkyo TX-SR805, both should arrive late next week. Cables/wires/banana plugs coming from Monoprice on Tuesday.

lukerg, did you get your gear running yet?

Sure did and I love it. The sound from this 5.0 (didn't use back surrounds because the room is too small to justify) setup is excellent. You'll love the modes on the 805 since they're pretty much the same as the 705. And having the 3 hdmi ports is great. Just ran Audyessy this evening and it worked great. BTW, the customer service and buying experience from Aperion was excellent. Hope yours was as good. Congrats!

Hello Aperion owners,
Just got a new set of 633-T 634-VAC and 2 532 surrounds paired up with the SVS
PB12+ sub. Just now getting them broke in to a new Onkyo 875. Man this setup sounds good with the deeper sub. I have a couple of older speakers rounding out the 7.1 untill I get 2 more 532's for the rear surrounds. SACD creates a great soundstage with these speakers. Add a Samsung 1080p and I don't think I will ever go to a concert or movie theatre again.

I have to get rid of my Rocket 760s Im looking for front ported so someone suggested trying Aperions.

They are much cheaper then the Rockets so I suspect SQ is a little lower. Im looking for HT quality sound and they will be placed behind GOM.

If you're going to put them behind a wall for your theater why not go CIH (Constant Image Height) with a 2.35:1 setup for you screen and do an acoustically transparent screen and put the speakers behind that so you can go with a wider screen . Are you looking at the 632s then? If not I would absolutely recommend the 633Ts for LR and the 634-VAC for C. I have them in my theater and you will NOT be disappointed. And I wouldn't expect you to have any SQ loss either. I use my 633Ts for 2 channel audio and am absolutely amazed at the SQ. I've heard Wilson Audio MAXX-2s and let me tell you the $45,000 price tag gives you probably a 10% improvement in sound (and some of that is probably the sound treatment in the room I heard it in, I haven't done that to my room yet -- don't forget to include that in yours ).

Mike

Thanks for the opinion. Im a huge Rocket fan so I do understand the possible great values online.

I was considering the CIH 2.35:1 setup also but I have many questions before that one is decided. Im not there yet, just starting the design now.

If you liked the rockets I doubt you will like the Aperions. I found them to be very bright, especially at elevated volumes. I think they are a very good HT speaker but not as good for music. But since they give a 30-day no cost audition it is definitely worth a listen. I ended up with swan 5.1s. I am quite happy with my choice. They are front ported as well. They are only avaialble in the black faux cherry now (I have the nicer rosewood speakers).

Since you're in the theater mode and sounds like you'll be building one soon have you considered DIY speakers? Steve Withey (SWithey) built some for his theater and they were amazing!

Mike

I'm planning to buy the 533-T Cinema package soon minus the sub (will buy better sub later). The Aperion manual online recommends 50-200 Watts per channel of power. The receiver I planned on buying is rated at 90 watts per channel. The new and highly rated Onkyo TX-SR605.

Does anyone have this receiver? Is 90 watts sufficient? What's the sweet spot in terms of power for the 533-Ts? Thanks in advance.

Anytime you're setting up a home theater package I always like to see more wattage because HT movies are so demanding in big action sequences. Will it sound great most of the time, sure, will it need a little extra umph from time to time, yeah probably. Does that mean you should buy something more? Well, if you can compare then you'd know whether it's worth it to you or not. If you can't compare, well, tough choice I guess. I went with 115W/channel.

Mike

I have the Onkyo 605 and the Intimus 532 cinema 7.1 system. Absolutly no problems at high volume or low.

I've got the SR705 with the 533-PT's and I never come close to full power. The 705 is only 10 watts more than the 605 so I don't think you'll have any problems at all (assuming it's not a 1000 sf room!).

You're probably right. Although what I'm describing is not that you'd have to turn up the volume all the way but rather the volume level you listen at will have dynamic scenes (e.g. explosions, gunfire, etc) where the demand on the amplifier will be MUCH higher even though you will not have turned it up physically. As I said earlier without being able to compare you may never even be able to tell the difference. If you get to a "complex" scene in a movie and it doesn't sound super clear (e.g. slightly muddy as if the sounds are getting mixed together poorly) then you've probably experienced what I've just described. You're probably fine with the 605 but just wanted to point out what the difference would be if you had the extra headroom.

Mike

After countless hours of online research, I've narrowed my options to the Paradigm Cinema 330 and Aperion Intimus 533-T Cinema. My speaker budget is $2k.

My living room is 13" by 18". I spend about 30% of my time watching movies, 35% watching TV/sports, 15% listening to music, and 20% gaming on my Xbox 360. I already bought the highly rated Onkyo 605 (90 watts per channel) and I plan on buying a 61" Samsung HL-T LED DLP TV soon.

How do you compare these two 5.1 speakers packages (pros and cons)? Which one would you buy and why?

That's a tough call. Do you have a shop nearby that demos the paradigms? If so then go spend a half hour or so listening to your favorite songs on CD, then listen to a couple of your favorite scenes on DVD from movies (if they can make sure their source setup is close to what you have so you're not comparing amps or DVD players instead of speakers -- does that make sense?).

Then order the 533 setup and give it a good 2-3 days to break in (the drivers are tight and sound harsh when you first get them and sound much better after 50-100 hours of use). Then once you've done that do the same comparison and see if you can tell which is better or more importantly which you like more.

One thing worth noting is that if you have a lower level system now (like I had a Bose setup before) the Aperions might sound bright to you -- but that's because you're hearing things you've never heard before in your previous systems. That's why it's best to compare the two units to each other. In fact, it might be better to order the Aperions, break them in, listen to the paradigms then come home and do the exact same listening with the Aperions.

Good luck,
Mike

While I've never heard the Paradigms you mention, I did purchase the Aperion 533-T and VAC about 2 weeks ago. Paired with my Onkyo 805, it's everything I want in home theater audio. Your ratio of entertainment is pretty close to mine. The Aperions are great for movies, and the few HD sports broadcasts I've seen over the past week have been fantastic...can't wait for tomorrow's orgy of college football from dawn to dusk!

In the end, I picked the Aperions to audition. I quickly decided that these speakers were hear to stay.

While I didn't directly compare them to anything in my home (other than my older speakers which are now my surrounds), these sound as detailed as much of what I hear at B&M stores, some of which are twice as expensive.

How do the T533 and/or the T633 survive without a sub? Also, how do they sound for 100% music (wide range of music) and when close (within 9") of a wall?

I'm trying to compare them to Divas, Rockets, and some PSB Images...haven't ordered an ID brand yet but I know the PSBs survive because they have a sealed enclosure and can carry enough bass. It looks just from the specs like the 533s may really need a sub. The 633s look like they go a bit lower but I'm worried about their placement . Sub isn't an option and farther away from the wall isn't an option. And I've listened to a lot of the built in sub towers and found them almost universally more muddy or boomy than I like so I'm shying away from the 533-PT

*edit corrected error about where things are made*

The PSB's are ported.


The Aperions are not manufactured in Oregon, but in Asia.

As opposed to a good Oregon company that say has always been manufactured in China (Aperion)?!?!

wow see you learn something new every day.

thought I read they were made in Oregon. guess I'm out to lunch yet again.

Hard to be a homer when no one makes much at home anymore.

And the PSBs Images have sealed backs I guess, so I stand corrected...not fully sealed. But they don't port out the back at least the ones I listened to didn't and they appeared to survive the process better.

Ok so how well do the Aperions corner/stand up against the evil walls?

I can't compare with cinema 330, but I had the Aperionn 533-t and Paradigm monitor 10s in my roomfor about 3 days at the same time. I would say it was a virtual tie between the two. And the 533t were about 20% cheaper!

I have the 633Ts in a home theater configuration and I listen to music quite a bit too. I have them 633Ts about 8" out from the wall (to the back of the speaker) and toed in to my listening position. The imaging and sound for CDs is amazing. I have my receiver wired and configured to allow me to listen to it with and without a Sub (I have a 12" Velodyne). I probably haven't tweaked it enough yet but I think I'd have to say I actually prefer listening to it without the sub. So yeah, I think these would sound really nice for your configuration.

If you can swing it in your room you might try some of these acoustic panels behind your speakers for sound improvements. But I haven't done that yet and my speakers still sound great (I want to someday and expect them to sound even better when I do).

Mike

Just got the e-mail. A pair of Aperion 633T's and a 634VAC center is on its way!!! Within about 2 minutes of getting the e-mail I placed an order for a Denon 3808 from J&R (great price). It should all be here by the middle of next week. Next week is going to be a good week. Yahoo!!!

Thanks to everyone on this forum. This forum has helped me a ton on what to order. I cannot wait.