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Since Blu-Rays are already in 1080p there shouldn't be any difference. The 876 will upscale the cable broadcasts to 1080p, whereas the 607 will only upscale to 1080i.

Thank you, I'm clueless about receivers. You answered all my questions.

My pleasure!

Has anyone here gone from PSB to Aperion? I currently have the old Image 4T's. I'm looking at either the Aperion 5T or 6T. I listen to music/movies about 60/40. What I like about my PSB' s is the highs which to me are good, detailed and clear. I have heard Aperion as having a laid back sound in the highs, does that mean that you loose some detail? I guess what what I am looking for is more of a live sound, more detail and more deph. Also do those out there that listen to music do you use the sub with the music?

Does Aperion help you set up the configuration on the speakers? I JUST put in my a pair of 4Ts, a 5C, and an 8D for a 12x15x9 dedicated home-theater room in the basement.

Have paired it up to an Onkyo SR-705. The steps taken thus far in setting up are:
- Set the 8D to 80hz crossover
- Set the SR-705 LFE to 80hz
- Set the 8D Volume to +10
- Then, ran Audessey to complete

Not sure reallly, what else to do or how to complete. Sounds great, of course, I don't think I have the 'ear to really tune the configuration. Looking for any suggestions.

If anyone wonders why we always rave about Aperion's customer service, you need to look no further than the above ^^^^^ to see a classic example of what these folks do day in and day out.

OK, I lied. More questions.

My set-up
2 x 6T, 6C, maybe some 5B for surround down the road. Maybe a sub (I am no bass head)

#1 get the Onkyo 607. Now with only wanting a 5.1 at max, would I be better getting the Emotiva XPA-3 or XPA-5. Should I decide I wanted the 5B's surrounds, would they be fine just hooked up to the receiver or would they benefit from being hooked up to am amp (or is that overkill)?

#2 I see this UMC-1 on the Emotiva site. Would this take the place of a receiver? If it does, them I would have to get the 5 channel amp.

Got bored and decided to mess with photoshop a bit.

Nice looking setup BrownTown....the 6Ts sound awesome don't they.

I don't think I can be much help on the PSB vs. Aperion comparison, but I can tell you that the tower from us that has the most high frequency energy is the 5T. It makes it an excellent speaker for jazz and classical since there is quite a bit going in those upper frequencies in those types of music.

On the other hand, the speaker that to me has the most live sound is the 6T. When I listen to them I really get the feeling that the musicians are right there in the room with me. But I would characterize it as more of a laid back speaker with regard to the highs and in comparison with the 5T, but not so much that it's dead or inaccurate sounding.

Hope that helps!


Absolutely we help with system configuration. You didn't mention the crossover settings for your other speakers, so for them I recommend 80 or 70 for the 5C, and then for the 5Ts I recommend that you experiment with full band, 60 and 80 and see which you like best. Some folks, including myself, like to hear the full bass response from the 5Ts, others think it sounds kind of muddy when you double up on the lows with a sub and cross them over at 80. If you do go with full band make sure you turn the double bass setting on in order to get adequate signal to the sub.

You might want to try turning off any EQ that Audyssey may have applied just to see if you like the sound better without it.

If you have an SPL meter I'd recommend doing a manual level calibration as well.

If you want to talk things over in real time, feel free to give us a call at 888-880-8992 or log into webchat, thanks!


I think you'll be fine with XPA-3 and running the 5Bs off of the 607, I highly doubt you'll notice any difference for movies. If you do multichannel music that would be the only reason in my opinion to go for the XPA-5 as that's when you'd benefit from the extra power being sent to the surrounds.

The UMC-1 is a pre/pro that you would pair with an amp like the XPA-5. The thing about it is that it has been delayed for over a year now and their page says June 09 delivery and yet here we are in the middle of July and they still aren't available. So you might want to try and find out when they will really start shipping them if you are interested in it.

I'm sure he'll think so when they actually arrive. What you see, however, is Photoshop.

I was wondering if Browingold would catch that!

Haha yeah.. However I suspect your scale is off. That center looks more like a 5C and those 6Ts will probably be a bit larger.

Oh C'mon my comment was a joke...the 6Ts will dwarf that lamp...Towers will be deeper and center should be a tad deeper also. Or maybe I did have too many Pabsts' the night b4.

Well the center is right on. From the Titans mosaic to the bottom of the kuro speaker is 11.5" and the 6C specs say 8.5" Height.

From the top of the kuro to the floor is 63". It might be off a tad. When I measured 41.5" from floor up, it was about 1/3 the bottom of the TV. The lamp is 59" tall

I think the width and depth are way off thought.

Pabsts, your a brave man. They send me straight to the sh*tter

Not a bad beer....Schlitz use to do that to me. How about a cold Strohs'.

I usually just stick to Newcastle, Yazoo, or wheat beers. I might drink 12 beers a month at most. A 6 pack a month usually serves me just fine.

What would be the best connectors for the 6 series speakers and for a Onkyo receiver? I will be ordering from Home Grown Audio. Banana plugs all around or bananas for the receiver and BFA connector for the speakers?
http://www.homegrownaudio.com/banana_plugs.htm

Regardless of your choice, it makes no sense to use a different connector for one end or the other.....going with the chain is only stroner than the weakest link....I am not a big fan of monster in general, but i did like their bananna connectors the best.

Aperion sells some really nice connectors themselves..

http://www.aperionaudio.com/product/...49,39,152.aspx

They are a double screw down design

Yea I saw those but they are $10 each. The HGA's are only $4 each.

A 5.1 set-up , that is $120 more for the Aperions

no no they are $10 for 1 pack of 4


So if you put on all connections you are only looking at $50 total, I have them as well. They are REALLY nice.

I have to disagree a little here. To my understanding, terminations have really no audible benefit from a sound quality perspective. They simply make connecting and disconnecting from a binding post more convenient and in some environments, prevent corrosion. However, a strong solid connection being paramount, some terminations are better than others. Due to some banana's tendency to "deflate" over long periods of time, many audiophiles consider spades to be the superior termination (at the speaker at least). Not all binding posts take well to those, though. Also, modern AVRs are notoriously cramped. That leads to a lot of bananas on the amp side, bare wire or spades on the speaker side.

Seems to me that the folks at Aperion have set up a pair of posts most suited to bananas. Here, I have to agree with you. I like the Monster (or GLS knock-offs, for that matter) bananas the best, because of the insulation at the back of the plugs. It gives a nice aesthetic, and more importantly, helps prevent shorting. Just my two-cents.

Hello folks, I am interested in upgrading my speaker system and may be ready to purchase a 7.1 package sometime next month. I have been seriously considering Aperion Audio's line of speakers and would appreciate some recommendations regarding, which series (4 or 5) would best compliment my current home theater w/o breaking the bank.

I have a PRO-150FD and a SC-07 placed in my FR, which is 15' x 20' w/10' high ceiling. The FR has two large openings, (1) to the foyer and the other to the kitchen. The far wall is primarily glass, floor to ceiling. My viewing/listening habits are generally 80% cable TV, 10% movies on Blu-ray disc (currently w/PS3) and 10% music, jazz/rock/country, I enjoy most genres.

From what I can tell the Intimus 5T-DB Hybrid HD package (in cherry) seems to be a good fit but Aperion's 7.1 speaker system is rather expensive: $3279.

I can probably save more than $1000 if I choose a 4 series package instead, but I don't want to experience any buyer's remorse if I purchase a speaker system that produces sound, which is not big enough to fill the room.

I'm no audiophile, but I can appreciate the sound & visual experience, which is generated by higher quality A/V components.

I appreciate your recommendations as well as any alternatives someone may provide.

With a room that size I would go with the 5T Hybrid. If money is tight right now why not start with a 5.1 system and give that time and then if you decide add 2 speakers later. You may even consider the 6 series speakers with that size of a room. But with only 10% music and HT you would be ok with the 5 series. If you listened to more music I would recommend the 6 over the 5 series.

Jason,

I just came across the following when researching the Audyssey setup for my new AVR.


I noticed that the Bravus subs have full parametric EQ, and I was wondering how it meshed with this statement that parametric EQ is not sufficient for bass range. I am fairly tech-savvy, but definitely not when it comes to audio theory and thought it was odd that they would mention parametric EQ specifically in reference to bass frequencies. The only other place/reason I know of parametric EQ is because of the Bravus subs description.

Any thoughts?

Thanks!

If 80% of your usage is cable TV then 7.1 isn't going to make a whole lot of sense for you since you will only get 7.1 discrete soundtracks from Blu-Rays. That may change in the future but you can always add two more speakers when that happens. In fact a good amount of cable TV isn't even in discrete 5.1 either, although some is dolby digital, but a lot of it is still pro logic so I don't think the DBs are really going to be worth it either since you won't be getting dramatic surround effects a lot of time.

So I'd agree with browninggold and say that something like the regular 5T Hybrid HD in the 5.1 configuration is probably the way to go. Actually I think a custom system using the 4BPs for your surrounds would be even better since when you are getting dolby digital from your cable broadcast they will give you a better surround effect. If you went 5T, 5C, 4BP, 10D, that system would only be $2537.

Hope that helps!

Interesting question, I'm gonna be honest and say that I don't have a lot of knowledge of FIR filters or how Audyssey is using them in relation to their MultEQ.

What I can tell you is that parametric EQ is merely a way to boost or attenuate a specific frequency within a specific Q parameter and it is not limited in any way to which frequencies you can affect. A parametric EQ will be no more or less effective at 30 Hz than it would be at 20 kHz.

If you would like to read a bit about the specifics of our parametric EQ as well as the low bass adjustment feature in our subs, check this out:

http://www.aperionaudio.com/communit...ead/10896.aspx

Just let me know if you have any further questions, thanks!

Just for fun I did a little more digging on this and it appears that parametric EQs typically use IIR filters and not FIR filters. I would bet this is the type of filter that our parametric EQ employs as it does not have the same low frequency limitations that an FIR filter does. Check it out:

http://www.mathworks.com/access/help...ric+EQ&spell=1